On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 5:25 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:36 AM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > ...
>
>
> Only certain things are doable by contract. Secondly, I want to be able to
> only report on this once a week, and not have to deal with randomness more
> than that.
> All good ideas though, and good copyediting.
> To accommodate this being a contract, I modified the "win" condition to be
> pretty good zombification, without unduly allowing players to opt-out if
> something is notoriously egregious (20 blots is a hefty penalty but may be
> necessary depending on the actor).
>
> Here's an updated draft:
> {
> =Joining and Leaving=
> Players on this contract are called Dragons.
> Any player who was not party to this contract within the past 2 weeks can
> join this contract by announcement.
> Any dragon can leave this contract by announcement.
> All card effects a party to this contract are under are voided by leaving
> the
> contract, however, all cards in eir possession are destroyed.
>
> =The Dealer=
> The Dealer MUST be a dragon.
> If possible, The Dealer is 4st.
>
> =Dealer Responsibilities=
> Once each week, The Dealer MUST distribute cards.
> To distribute cards, The Dealer, for each other current dragon,
> randomly chooses a base card, and creates it in that dragon's ownership if
> possible.
> If The Dealer does not distribute in a given week, e creates 2 blots in eir
> possession.
>
> Once each week, The Dealer MUST report on this contract, and assets defined
> by it.
> If The Dealer does not in a given week, e creates 1 blot in eir possession.
> (Ideally, distribution and reporting are the same message.)
>
> =Cards=
> The Dealer is the tracker of the liquid private category of asset Cards,
> ownable by
> dragons. The Dealer cannot own or play cards. Cards of the same kind are
> fungible.
>
> There is a max hand size of 7, otherwise the dragon cannot have a card
> created in eir ownership.
>
> =Disputes=
> Card playing is first come, first serve.
> Failed card plays do not spend cards.
> The Dealer arbitrates disputes involving this contract.
>
> =Updates=
> The Dealer, with 14 days notice, CAN update the text of this contract.
> Any dragon CAN update the text of this contract without objection from a
> dragon.
>
> ==Gameplay==
> =Base Cards=
> - Metal - The specified dragon will endorse you or change eir vote to
> endorse you on the specified proposal,
> election, or agoran decision, if e hasn't committed eir vote via another
> card.
> If the specified dragon changes eir vote of eir own accord on the specified
> item,
> e also grants emself 2 blots in eir possession.
>
I don't think contracts have the power to make people grant themselves
blots like that, although someone could via "acting on behalf"
> - Water - Take a specified card from a specified dragon.
> - Wood - Destroy a specified card from a specified dragon.
> - Stone - One of:
> The specified dragon will reach for the specified stone,
> or The specified dragon will wield a specified stone in a specified way.
> - Fire - The specified dragon will expunge 1 blot from you.
>
I think it's interesting to have two kinds of offense (and defense) that
you need to deal with.
> =Playing Cards=
> A dragon play a card in eir possession. To do so is to destroy that card,
> and apply its effects as specified.
>
> =Card Combos=
> A dragon can pay a fee of the specified cards and get the listed card (by
> announcement).
> Card spending must specify the spent and target card, and spent cards can
> only be used for one purchase.
> These are called card combos.
>
> =Card Combo List=
> - Water Water Water -> Swap - Swap all your cards with the specified dragon
> - Metal Metal Metal -> Power - The specified dragon will endorse you on the
> specified distribution. If that dragon changes eir vote of eir own accord
> on any items in the distribution, e also grants emself 7 blots.
> - Stone Stone Stone -> Transfer - The specified dragon will transfer the
> specified stone to you.
> - Wood Wood -> Rat - Wood and Water cards targeting a dragon with this card
> must target a Rat.
> - Fire Fire Fire -> Dream - The specified dragon will envision the
> specified dream, until a wandering occurs. If that dragon envisions another
> dream prior,e grants emself 5 blots.
> - Fire Fire Fire Fire -> Purify - Each dragon expunges 1 blot from you.
> - Stone Metal Wood -> Tortoise - If a hand containing this card is targeted
> with Swap or Power, destroy this Tortoise and that card.
>
I think you should add that the effect you were targeted with should be
cancelled as well. Although, since it's a contract, we can just add a
anti-pedantry clause and say that the Dealer can adjust things on the fly
to keep things going as the wording intended.
> - Any 4 cards -> get a specified base card
> - Any 7 cards -> get a specified base or card-combo card
> - Power Power Power -> Spirit - When paying a fee of cards, you can spend 1
> less Metal card.
> 2 of this card cannot exist in the same hand.
> - Rat Rat Rat -> Den - When paying a fee of cards, you can spend 1 less
> Wood card.
> 2 of this card cannot exist in the same hand.
> - Tortoise Tortoise Tortoise -> Shield - When paying a fee of cards, you
> can spend 1 less Stone card.
> 2 of this card cannot exist in the same hand.
> - Swap Swap Swap -> Ocean - When paying a fee of cards, you can spend 1
> less Water card.
> 2 of this card cannot exist in the same hand.
> - Purify Dream -> Ghost - When paying a fee of cards, you can spend 1 less
> Fire card.
> 2 of this card cannot exist in the same hand.
>
> =Super Cards=
> A dragon can spend the listed cards to get the resultant card. These cards
> cannot be created otherwise.
> - Spirit Den Shield Ocean Ghost -> Goddess - All dragons endorse you and
> change eir votes
> to endorse you on all proposals and agoran decisions.
> A dragon who plays this card CAN and SHOULD destroy this contract after
> winning Agora (by announcement).
> A dragon under this effect, before leaving the contract, first creates 20
> blots in eir possession.
> A dragon who changes eir vote of eir own accord after this card has been
> played leaves the contract.
I think that, instead of "zombification", we can just add that the
participants are ENCOURAGED to have the 'winner' granted a Patent Title and
SHOULD perform actions that would enable it. With enough people playing, I
don't think this should be too hard to convince people of. I can't talk
about others but, even without a Patent Title award, I'd still be motivated
to 'win', even if the win's award is just the contract saying that I did.
>
}
>
> To supplement this, I also want "breakable" promises, which I think are
> doable by contract:
> {
> =Pseudo Office=
> The Subnotary MUST be party to thise contract.
> If possible, 4st is the Subnotary.
> With 14 day notice, The Subnotary can change the text of this contract.
> Once each week, The Subnotary MUST report on this contract, and assets
> defined by it.
> If e does not, e grants emself 2 blots.
> The Subnotary arbitrates disputes involving this contract.
>
> =Joining and Leaving=
> Any player can join this contract by announcement.
> Players in this contract are called members.
> Members cannot leave this contract unless no futures currently exist that e
> has authored.
>
> =Futures=
> The Subnotary is the tracker of futures. Futures are a private liquid asset
> with a condition, action, and penalty.
> Futures are only ownable by members and the Board.
> If a Future is not owned by a member or the Board, it is transferred to the
> Board.
> Members can transfer Futures to and from the Board freely.
> A member can, by announcement, create a future in any valid possession,
> specifying a condition and an action, and optionally, a penalty.
> The penalty is 3 unless otherwise specified.
> A member, by creation of a future, consents to doing that action when that
> future is cashed.
>
> =Cashing Futures=
> A member can, by announcement, cash a future in eir possession, becoming
> the casher.
> By doing so, the author of that future performs the action of that future.
> If the condition of a future is not unambiguously met, the author CAN, by
> announcement,
> penalize the casher, specifying the cashed future.
> When a casher is penalized, e creates an amount of blots equal to the
> penalty in eir possession.
>
> =Take Backsies=
> A member can, by announcement, take back a future e has authored.
> By doing so, e creates an amount of blots equal to the penalty of that
> future in eir possession,
> and destroys that future.
> }
>
These are arguably already covered by regular Promises and Contracts. It
just seems redundant, but, not harmful to have.
> --
> 4st
> Referee and Deputy(AKA FAKE) webmastor
> Uncertified Bad Idea Generator
>
I'm pretty excited to play, overall.
