Child's play.
Applicant: Roosevelt County Rural Telephone Cooperative, Inc.
$29,077,000 115 PNF-001260 $252,843
$252k per household.
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 7:55 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
$30 for low income customers.
5G Home Internet has set the expectation that broadband should
cost $35 to $55/mo, depending on whether you bundle a mobile
phone. And it seems like every time YouTube TV increases their
price $10, ISPs are expected to lower their price $10 to offset it.
And can you imagine the whining if an ISP took BEAD money and then
had the audacity to try and charge $80 or $100/mo? Hey you
bastards, you got millions of government money, the service should
be FREE!
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 6:40 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
$50 seems a little light, not that you'd ever find a reasonable
number to both the consumer and the cost recovery.
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*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:32:17 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
BEAD requires the ISP put up 25% of the cost, but I think in
“extremely high cost” areas, that can be negotiated. I’m guessing
it was. If Beehive Broadband was putting up $25K per passing and
needs to pay all the operational costs, this would never be
profitable, even if they got 100% take rate and let’s say
$50/month revenue.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:15 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
Hell the government could relocate your home for less.
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 4:06 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
$77k per location passed with no guarantee you even get the
customer is absurd!!!
Once the cost per passing exceeds a reasonable cost per dwelling,
no funding should be awarded. I don't know what that number is but
let's say if it costs $20k to pass a dwelling and the BEAD funding
covers 50% then both the govt and ISP puts up $10k each to pass,
that seems fair for fiber. But if the govt is offering $77k per
passing and the ISP some amount of $ in addition, that project
should NOT be funded. This is especially true today when Starlink
and gear like Tarana is available and Kuiper is coming. The
argument for high cost passings may have made a little more sense
5+ years ago before Starlink and Tarana but today, any passing
cost above $20k should automatically be opened to WISPs or LEO
networks. If an area is truly this expensive to serve then fiber
is not a necessity and they can live fine with Starlink or a WISP.
Fiber is great but only when there's a reasonable ROI.
Chuck's example of $200k per passing is an absolute waste of money
and should have never been funded under any circumstances. Being
that it was 15 years ago, people could move somewhere else or use
an alternate provider like Viasat or Hughesnet.
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:08 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/99183/138915/170930/IDT_Checklist_-_California_Survival_School_508.pdf
<https://eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/99183/138915/170930/IDT_Checklist_-_California_Survival_School_508.pdf>
*Maybe that link will work. This is an example. *
*From:*Colin Stanners
*Sent:*Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:38 PM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
Could you give a breakdown of where that $200K per location
for NEPA compliance went? What did those archaeologists and
engineers do?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, 1:15 p.m. <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
Yes, while this number looks crazy, I spent that much per
location 15 years ago in rural nevada to serve about 22
farms and ranches with fiber. Most of the cost, over
$200K per location was for permitting, mostly NEPA
compliance. We had archaeologists and engineers out there
for a couple years.
*From:*Ken Hohhof
*Sent:*Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:49 AM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
The announcement of Nevada BEAD funding included this:
* Beehive Broadband: $22,025,793 for 286 locations
Chuck, is that your old company?
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