$77k per location passed with no guarantee you even get the customer is
absurd!!!

Once the cost per passing exceeds a reasonable cost per dwelling, no
funding should be awarded. I don't know what that number is but let's say
if it costs $20k to pass a dwelling and the BEAD funding covers 50% then
both the govt and ISP puts up $10k each to pass, that seems fair for fiber.
But if the govt is offering $77k per passing and the ISP some amount of $$
in addition, that project should NOT be funded. This is especially true
today when Starlink and gear like Tarana is available and Kuiper is coming.
The argument for high cost passings may have made a little more sense 5+
years ago before Starlink and Tarana but today, any passing cost above $20k
should automatically be opened to WISPs or LEO networks. If an area is
truly this expensive to serve then fiber is not a necessity and they can
live fine with Starlink or a WISP. Fiber is great but only when there's a
reasonable ROI.

Chuck's example of $200k per passing is an absolute waste of money and
should have never been funded under any circumstances. Being that it was 15
years ago, people could move somewhere else or use an alternate provider
like Viasat or Hughesnet.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:08 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

>
> eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/99183/138915/170930/IDT_Checklist_-_California_Survival_School_508.pdf
>
> *Maybe that link will work.  This is an example.  *
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:38 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
>
> Could you give a breakdown of where that $200K per location for NEPA
> compliance went? What did those archaeologists and engineers do?
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, 1:15 p.m. <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, while this number looks crazy, I spent that much per location 15
>> years ago in rural nevada to serve about 22 farms and ranches with fiber.
>> Most of the cost, over $200K per location was for permitting, mostly NEPA
>> compliance.  We had archaeologists and engineers out there for a couple
>> years.
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:49 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
>>
>>
>> The announcement of Nevada BEAD funding included this:
>>
>>
>>
>>    - Beehive Broadband: $22,025,793 for 286 locations
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck, is that your old company?
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