Child's play. Applicant: Roosevelt County Rural Telephone Cooperative, Inc. $29,077,000 115 PNF-001260 $252,843 $252k per household.
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 7:55 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: > $30 for low income customers. > > > > 5G Home Internet has set the expectation that broadband should cost $35 to > $55/mo, depending on whether you bundle a mobile phone. And it seems like > every time YouTube TV increases their price $10, ISPs are expected to lower > their price $10 to offset it. > > > > And can you imagine the whining if an ISP took BEAD money and then had the > audacity to try and charge $80 or $100/mo? Hey you bastards, you got > millions of government money, the service should be FREE! > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 6:40 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband > > > > $50 seems a little light, not that you'd ever find a reasonable number to > both the consumer and the cost recovery. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <khoh...@kwom.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:32:17 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband > > BEAD requires the ISP put up 25% of the cost, but I think in “extremely > high cost” areas, that can be negotiated. I’m guessing it was. If Beehive > Broadband was putting up $25K per passing and needs to pay all the > operational costs, this would never be profitable, even if they got 100% > take rate and let’s say $50/month revenue. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:15 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband > > > > Hell the government could relocate your home for less. > > > > > > *Tyson Burris* > *President & CEO* > > > > Internet Communications Inc (ICI) > > 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 > > > > [image: Mobile mobile-icon]317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) > [image: phone phone-icon]317-738-0320 (office) > [image: Email email-icon] t...@franklinisp.net > [image: website website-icon] www.surfici.net > > > > > > *Fixed Wireless Broadband - PtP/PtMP Solutions – Indoor/Oudoor Wifi - IP > Cameras - Fiber – MDUs * > > > > *Active Member To The Following**:* > > > > WISPA <http://www.wispa.org/> > > NBBC <http://www.nbbc.coop/> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. 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If you have any doubts about the validity or enforceability > of any agreement or arrangement discussed in this email, please consult > with an attorney. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 4:06 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband > > > > $77k per location passed with no guarantee you even get the customer is > absurd!!! > > > > Once the cost per passing exceeds a reasonable cost per dwelling, no > funding should be awarded. I don't know what that number is but let's say > if it costs $20k to pass a dwelling and the BEAD funding covers 50% then > both the govt and ISP puts up $10k each to pass, that seems fair for fiber. > But if the govt is offering $77k per passing and the ISP some amount of $ > in addition, that project should NOT be funded. This is especially true > today when Starlink and gear like Tarana is available and Kuiper is coming. > The argument for high cost passings may have made a little more sense 5+ > years ago before Starlink and Tarana but today, any passing cost above $20k > should automatically be opened to WISPs or LEO networks. If an area is > truly this expensive to serve then fiber is not a necessity and they can > live fine with Starlink or a WISP. Fiber is great but only when there's a > reasonable ROI. > > > > Chuck's example of $200k per passing is an absolute waste of money and > should have never been funded under any circumstances. Being that it was 15 > years ago, people could move somewhere else or use an alternate provider > like Viasat or Hughesnet. > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:08 PM <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: > > > eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/99183/138915/170930/IDT_Checklist_-_California_Survival_School_508.pdf > > > > *Maybe that link will work. This is an example. * > > > > *From:* Colin Stanners > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:38 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband > > > > Could you give a breakdown of where that $200K per location for NEPA > compliance went? What did those archaeologists and engineers do? > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, 1:15 p.m. <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote: > > Yes, while this number looks crazy, I spent that much per location 15 > years ago in rural nevada to serve about 22 farms and ranches with fiber. > Most of the cost, over $200K per location was for permitting, mostly NEPA > compliance. We had archaeologists and engineers out there for a couple > years. > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:49 AM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband > > > > The announcement of Nevada BEAD funding included this: > > > > - Beehive Broadband: $22,025,793 for 286 locations > > > > Chuck, is that your old company? > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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