Which also needs to stop.
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From: ch...@go-mtc.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 3:27:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
The rules of regulated rate of return public utilities make it so that the more
you spend, the more you make.
Best Regards,
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com
From: Darin Steffl
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 2:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
$77k per location passed with no guarantee you even get the customer is
absurd!!!
Once the cost per passing exceeds a reasonable cost per dwelling, no funding
should be awarded. I don't know what that number is but let's say if it costs
$20k to pass a dwelling and the BEAD funding covers 50% then both the govt and
ISP puts up $10k each to pass, that seems fair for fiber. But if the govt is
offering $77k per passing and the ISP some amount of $$ in addition, that
project should NOT be funded. This is especially true today when Starlink and
gear like Tarana is available and Kuiper is coming. The argument for high cost
passings may have made a little more sense 5+ years ago before Starlink and
Tarana but today, any passing cost above $20k should automatically be opened to
WISPs or LEO networks. If an area is truly this expensive to serve then fiber
is not a necessity and they can live fine with Starlink or a WISP. Fiber is
great but only when there's a reasonable ROI.
Chuck's example of $200k per passing is an absolute waste of money and should
have never been funded under any circumstances. Being that it was 15 years ago,
people could move somewhere else or use an alternate provider like Viasat or
Hughesnet.
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 2:08 PM < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote:
eplanning.blm.gov/public_projects/nepa/99183/138915/170930/IDT_Checklist_-_California_Survival_School_508.pdf
Maybe that link will work. This is an example.
From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 12:38 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
Could you give a breakdown of where that $200K per location for NEPA compliance
went? What did those archaeologists and engineers do?
On Wed, Dec 18, 2024, 1:15 p.m. < ch...@go-mtc.com > wrote:
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Yes, while this number looks crazy, I spent that much per location 15 years ago
in rural nevada to serve about 22 farms and ranches with fiber. Most of the
cost, over $200K per location was for permitting, mostly NEPA compliance. We
had archaeologists and engineers out there for a couple years.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2024 11:49 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband
The announcement of Nevada BEAD funding included this:
* Beehive Broadband: $22,025,793 for 286 locations
Chuck, is that your old company?
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