Just a factual correction: RealClearPolitics never called Pennsylvania. And yes, I checked archive.org to verify.
And in case it comes up: CNN never called Arizona. In fact, for quite some time Fox and possibly the AP were the only ones who had called Arizona. On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:39 PM justsumname <unixday...@gmail.com> wrote: > this thing is just getting started, gents. It's only Monday. > > > https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/ > > RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden. The state is grey on > their map, now. Was Blue yesterday. > > I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump. He's been an excellent > President for all Americans. > No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have. For years. > > -- > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online. But it has to >> be resistant to buying and selling votes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have >> already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no one >> can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability to >> claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your results >> with your code. You can do the same without recording a name. >> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified, >> fairly quickly. >> >> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side effects >> are the best side effects. >> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be >> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing infrastructure >> can be used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote >> accuracy. >> >> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant, as >> is most of the left's mistakes >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long >>> time. OTOH, storage might become an issue. >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>> >>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the >>> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the ballet >>> cart to have the vote count. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person voting, >>>> both early and day-of. (A paper tape record is also printed out and can be >>>> verified by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s how I >>>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would >>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step before >>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on election >>>> day before they could start processing them. This was apparently also the >>>> case in many battleground states. They weren’t even allowed to open the >>>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of >>>> the state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results in a >>>> secure area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are >>>> postmarked (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will be >>>> accepted for a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that is. >>>> >>>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our >>>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if >>>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 48 >>>> hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our ballots >>>> had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix that, but >>>> I've never had to use it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. >>>> >>>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >>>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. >>>> That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The whole punch card voting "system" was doomed from the beginning. I >>>> remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County 30 years ago or so. >>>> Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime stick >>>> or hang on a corner. >>>> >>>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where you >>>> fill in the square or the circle. >>>> >>>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. >>>> When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the >>>> kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were >>>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to call it >>>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at one of >>>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop >>>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 20,000 >>>> people. >>>> >>>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee >>>> ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November 3, >>>> but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted until >>>> after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only about >>>> 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but extend Biden's >>>> cushion. >>>> >>>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. >>>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other hand, >>>> there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes around. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> >>>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a >>>> Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the door >>>> when it helps the other guy. >>>> >>>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, >>>> the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the counties >>>> where they thought it would help them. But also the votes had already been >>>> counted (and recounted). And there was the original Florida Man, some guy >>>> named Hanging Chad? And the phone call and the retraction. >>>> >>>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed. That >>>> does not bode well for half the country moving on from this election. >>>> >>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>> >>>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a >>>> decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0 >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote: >>>> >>>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't >>>> really gotten started yet. >>>> >>>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes good movie. >>>> >>>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster... >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties, >>>> which came soon enough. >>>> >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan >>>> >>>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. >>>> Set in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and >>>> deciding who to elect as their representatives. Should it be Jimmy Stewart >>>> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader? The old >>>> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to >>>> Washington to represent you. Hah! Politicians are not held in great >>>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance. I assume >>>> everyone has seen the movie. It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he >>>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see. Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, >>>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John >>>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. >>>> >>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>> >>>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>> >>>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice >>>> power as Rhode Island. >>>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com >>>> <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral >>>> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 of >>>> a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still dealing >>>> with decisions we made about slaves. >>>> >>>> bp >>>> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>> >>>> We have spoken. >>>> >>>> Righteous Indignation >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lewis Bergman >>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest
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