This is why the left cant meme. The lack of detail. Memelords would never
have allowed that tie to make it through QC. 1/10

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:31 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yep..
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 9:38 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> The memes will be epic. The memelords havent even started shitposting,
>> which is odd.  This is a 2 of 10 gem. The covid death memes from the street
>> "celebrations" are going to be particularly ruthless.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:26 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> God this is more entertaining than 2016
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Barr is a Trump puppet.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/1542846845827136/posts/3249813925130411/?sfnsn=mo
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 7:07 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The only thing just getting started is the next level of FUD from the
>>>>> DUD
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/9/20 5:51 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From Wikipedia: *The Gateway Pundit* is an American far-right
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right_(United_States)>[9]
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-9> news
>>>>> and opinion website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods,
>>>>> hoaxes, and conspiracy theories
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories>.[17]
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit#cite_note-17>
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone has credible evidence that would overturn the election, it
>>>>> should absolutely be brought before the courts. At the moment, all of the
>>>>> evidence seems to point to a fair election where Donald Trump lost by over
>>>>> 4,000,000 votes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:34 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit ..pure Bullshit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 5:39 PM justsumname <unixday...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this thing is just getting started, gents.   It's only Monday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden.   The state is
>>>>>>> grey on their map, now.   Was Blue yesterday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump.   He's been an
>>>>>>> excellent President for all Americans.
>>>>>>> No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have.   For
>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online.  But it
>>>>>>>> has to be resistant to buying and selling votes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We
>>>>>>>> have already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot 
>>>>>>>> meaning
>>>>>>>> no one can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's 
>>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>> to claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your
>>>>>>>> results with your code. You can do the same without recording a name.
>>>>>>>> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be
>>>>>>>> verified, fairly quickly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side
>>>>>>>> effects are the best side effects.
>>>>>>>> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be
>>>>>>>> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing 
>>>>>>>> infrastructure
>>>>>>>> can be used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote
>>>>>>>> accuracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed...
>>>>>>>> inadvertant, as is most of the left's mistakes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a
>>>>>>>>> long time. OTOH, storage might become an issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to
>>>>>>>>> the office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the
>>>>>>>>> ballet cart to have the vote count.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person
>>>>>>>>>> voting, both early and day-of.  (A paper tape record is also printed 
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> and can be verified by the voter)  Obviously these are very quick to
>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election.
>>>>>>>>>> In addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> election, but it used paper ballots.  Basically you filled out the 
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box.  
>>>>>>>>>> That’s how I
>>>>>>>>>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they 
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back 
>>>>>>>>>> when we
>>>>>>>>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting.  I expected as the last step 
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner.  Instead I 
>>>>>>>>>> sealed it
>>>>>>>>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were
>>>>>>>>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on 
>>>>>>>>>> election
>>>>>>>>>> day before they could start processing them.  This was apparently 
>>>>>>>>>> also the
>>>>>>>>>> case in many battleground states.  They weren’t even allowed to open 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest
>>>>>>>>>> of the state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results 
>>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>> secure area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are
>>>>>>>>>> postmarked (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election 
>>>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>>>> accepted for a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long 
>>>>>>>>>> that is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped
>>>>>>>>>> our ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told 
>>>>>>>>>> us (1)
>>>>>>>>>> if the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It 
>>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>> 48 hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our
>>>>>>>>>> ballots had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go 
>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>> that, but I've never had to use it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to
>>>>>>>>>> go.  That way when the polls close you have an immediate count.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The whole punch card voting "system"  was doomed from the
>>>>>>>>>> beginning. I remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County  
>>>>>>>>>> 30 years
>>>>>>>>>> ago or so. Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would
>>>>>>>>>> sometime stick or hang on a corner.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where
>>>>>>>>>> you fill in the square or the circle.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a
>>>>>>>>>> decade. When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our 
>>>>>>>>>> ballots at
>>>>>>>>>> the kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when 
>>>>>>>>>> we were
>>>>>>>>>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to 
>>>>>>>>>> call it
>>>>>>>>>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at 
>>>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 
>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 
>>>>>>>>>> 20,000
>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival
>>>>>>>>>> absentee ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived 
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> November 3, but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be
>>>>>>>>>> counted until after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, 
>>>>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>>>>> only about 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but 
>>>>>>>>>> extend
>>>>>>>>>> Biden's cushion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting
>>>>>>>>>> standards. Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> other hand, there would be a lot less confusion when the time for 
>>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>>> comes around.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona.  It’s
>>>>>>>>>> a Maxwell’s Demon approach.  Open the door when it helps me, close 
>>>>>>>>>> the door
>>>>>>>>>> when it helps the other guy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v
>>>>>>>>>> Gore, the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the
>>>>>>>>>> counties where they thought it would help them.  But also the votes 
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> already been counted (and recounted).  And there was the original 
>>>>>>>>>> Florida
>>>>>>>>>> Man, some guy named Hanging Chad?  And the phone call and the 
>>>>>>>>>> retraction.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed.
>>>>>>>>>> That does not bode well for half the country moving on from this 
>>>>>>>>>> election.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're
>>>>>>>>>> demanding a decount. In Georgia it's opposites day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature.   This thing
>>>>>>>>>> hasn't really gotten started yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes good movie.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas,
>>>>>>>>>> Lancaster...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political
>>>>>>>>>> parties, which came soon enough.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty
>>>>>>>>>> Valance.  Set in the fading days of the old west with territories 
>>>>>>>>>> becoming
>>>>>>>>>> states and deciding who to elect as their representatives.  Should 
>>>>>>>>>> it be
>>>>>>>>>> Jimmy Stewart the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang 
>>>>>>>>>> leader?
>>>>>>>>>> The old fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated 
>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>> to Washington to represent you.  Hah!  Politicians are not held in 
>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance.  I 
>>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>>>> everyone has seen the movie.  It’s an old John Ford western, in fact 
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see.  Look at the cast – Jimmy 
>>>>>>>>>> Stewart,
>>>>>>>>>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John
>>>>>>>>>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California
>>>>>>>>>> existed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same
>>>>>>>>>> voice power as Rhode Island.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>> mailto:part15...@gmail.com <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly
>>>>>>>>>> Electoral College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy 
>>>>>>>>>> slave
>>>>>>>>>> is 3/5 of a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and 
>>>>>>>>>> we're still
>>>>>>>>>> dealing with decisions we made about slaves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have spoken.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Righteous Indignation
>>>>>>>>>>
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