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If someone has credible evidence that would overturn the election, it should absolutely be brought before the courts. At the moment, all of the evidence seems to point to a fair election where Donald Trump lost by over 4,000,000 votes. On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:34 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bullshit ..pure Bullshit > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 5:39 PM justsumname <unixday...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> this thing is just getting started, gents. It's only Monday. >> >> >> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/ >> >> RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden. The state is grey on >> their map, now. Was Blue yesterday. >> >> I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump. He's been an >> excellent President for all Americans. >> No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have. For >> years. >> >> -- >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online. But it has to >>> be resistant to buying and selling votes. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have >>> already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no one >>> can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability to >>> claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your results >>> with your code. You can do the same without recording a name. >>> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified, >>> fairly quickly. >>> >>> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side effects >>> are the best side effects. >>> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be >>> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing infrastructure >>> can be used to canvass a contested district for verification of vote >>> accuracy. >>> >>> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant, as >>> is most of the left's mistakes >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long >>>> time. OTOH, storage might become an issue. >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>> >>>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the >>>> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the ballet >>>> cart to have the vote count. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person voting, >>>>> both early and day-of. (A paper tape record is also printed out and can >>>>> be >>>>> verified by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>>>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>>>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s how >>>>> I >>>>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would >>>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step before >>>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >>>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on election >>>>> day before they could start processing them. This was apparently also the >>>>> case in many battleground states. They weren’t even allowed to open the >>>>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of >>>>> the state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results in a >>>>> secure area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are >>>>> postmarked (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will be >>>>> accepted for a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that is. >>>>> >>>>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our >>>>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if >>>>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 48 >>>>> hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our ballots >>>>> had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix that, but >>>>> I've never had to use it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. >>>>> >>>>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. >>>>> That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The whole punch card voting "system" was doomed from the beginning. I >>>>> remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County 30 years ago or so. >>>>> Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime stick >>>>> or hang on a corner. >>>>> >>>>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where you >>>>> fill in the square or the circle. >>>>> >>>>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. >>>>> When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the >>>>> kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were >>>>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to call >>>>> it >>>>> that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at one of >>>>> dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 drop >>>>> boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 20,000 >>>>> people. >>>>> >>>>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee >>>>> ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November 3, >>>>> but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted until >>>>> after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only about >>>>> 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but extend Biden's >>>>> cushion. >>>>> >>>>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. >>>>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other hand, >>>>> there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes around. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a >>>>> Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the door >>>>> when it helps the other guy. >>>>> >>>>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, >>>>> the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the counties >>>>> where they thought it would help them. But also the votes had already >>>>> been >>>>> counted (and recounted). And there was the original Florida Man, some guy >>>>> named Hanging Chad? And the phone call and the retraction. >>>>> >>>>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed. That >>>>> does not bode well for half the country moving on from this election. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>> >>>>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a >>>>> decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0 >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't >>>>> really gotten started yet. >>>>> >>>>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza < >>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes good movie. >>>>> >>>>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster... >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties, >>>>> which came soon enough. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan >>>>> >>>>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. >>>>> Set in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states >>>>> and >>>>> deciding who to elect as their representatives. Should it be Jimmy >>>>> Stewart >>>>> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader? The old >>>>> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to >>>>> Washington to represent you. Hah! Politicians are not held in great >>>>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance. I assume >>>>> everyone has seen the movie. It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he >>>>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see. Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, >>>>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John >>>>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM >>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>>>> >>>>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed. >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice >>>>> power as Rhode Island. >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com >>>>> <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral >>>>> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 of >>>>> a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still dealing >>>>> with decisions we made about slaves. >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We have spoken. >>>>> >>>>> Righteous Indignation >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lewis Bergman >>>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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