What if you want to be pissed on? Should you not have the right to do that
since others dont want to be pissed on?

People are into weird shit these days.

You know somewhere, there is a group of people who went out and got
infected because they get off on this. Now they're mad because they cant
get it again. Shouldn't they have the right to not have immunity  forced
upon them?

In california, knowingly spreading HIV is a minor crime now because
otherwise it could make people look down on aids patients, but if you cough
on someone, you're a pariah. These are the days we live in.

I took the family to the nursery today, spent way to much on marigolds. The
16 month olds eyes were watering, this is from lack of exposure to anything
not sanitized in the last 3 months. The 1 month old, he's just a fat lump,
his immune system is probably so weak right now that he will puff up like a
balloon tonite. I wouldn't know, he's so fat.

50 50 on mask use. No dirty looks at my unmasked family. Probably because
gardeners tend to not be Sally rita Mae's. Nobody offered to cough or pee
on me. Was kind of disappointed.

I thought about shooting everybody there, just in case they had the disease
or were holding back a cough. But they probably would have asked me to
leave, and they have Candies, those are the best onion sets you can grow.
Protecting the community from those disease carriers just wasn't worth
risking the onions...

People are also generally fatter than I recall since the last time I saw
people. I'm wondering if they've been coming over an breast feeding off my
wife while I'm in the garage working. That's why my baby is so fat, so it
would make sense.

I dont know if I have the right to not have other people suckle from my
wife's teat. I guess the most I can ask is she rub some alcohol on them
when they're done. I dont see how they could wear a mask. Maybe that's what
the vent holes in some are. Maybe those are the people who still breast
feed.

We learn a lot about each other through this

On Sat, May 9, 2020, 2:19 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Well, I don’t wanna touch your tussis.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:47 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Philosopy of Tussis
>
>
> You got me.  I figured Tussis was a famous ancient philosopher.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 1:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Philosopy of Tussis
>
>
>
> Do we have a right not to be infected by others?
>
> Do we have a right not to be coughed on or sneezed on or breathed on?
>
> Do we have a right not to be pissed on or have someone smear their
> blood/feces/snot on us?
>
>
>
> If we have these rights, then that means other people must do something to
> preserve our rights.
>
> Distance, mask, not go around naked....
>
>
>
> Do you have a right to not wear a mask around me?
>
> Do I have a right to ask you to wear a mask around me?
>
> How large is a personal bubble?
>
> Do you have the exclusive say as to how things go inside your bubble?
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:30 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>
>
>
> Lol, yeah, 6monrh, then 6 months, then 6 months. Get real. Its over
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020, 11:47 AM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com>
> wrote:
>
> And probably way less knowledge of how to treat sick people than we will
> know in 6 months.  It's a teeter-totter...
>
> On 05/09/2020 09:32 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> > That's why right now is the best time to get it. We have the highest
> > availability of healthcare resources in my entire lifetime.
> >
> > On Sat, May 9, 2020, 10:07 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
> > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Most of us will need to get it (or vaccines) to stop it's reach from
> >     getting to everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> >     -----
> >     Mike Hammett
> >     Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> >     <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><
> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><
> https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> >     Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> >     <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><
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> >     The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> >     <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> >
> >
> >     <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >     *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
> >     <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> >     *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
> >     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> >     *Sent: *Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:50:29 AM
> >     *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
> >
> >     That's why right now is the best time to get it. Matt and the
> >     talking heads keep saying that we all will eventually get this, and
> >     they wouldn't lie. So right now when the hospitals are empty and 60
> >     percent of healthcare staff is laid off is the ideal time to get it.
> >     Get it in the fall when it resources (again, matt and the talking
> >     heads have guaranteed this) are taxed due to flu season, and
> >     survivability drops.
> >      From day one I've said infection centers would be the absolute best
> >     tool to fight this thing. The younger, healthier, medically screened
> >     people go and get infected, and start treatment immediately. Its
> >     effectively the same thing as vaccination with a few more steps.
> >     Morons say "well we dont know that getting it will make you immune"
> >     which is fine and good, maybe it's not like 99 percent of other
> >     viruses. But guess what that means. It means that there will never
> >     be a vaccine since that's what vaccines to (make your body think
> >     you've had the disease). Matt and the talking heads cannot have it
> >     both ways, science doesnt allow it.
> >
> >     I'm in the same boat though, I want to maximize the time with my
> >     kids. I have this new fresh one that's still just a lump of dough,
> >     I'd like to get to know what he cooks into. But I wont do this
> >     teaching these little bastards to cower in the corner because the
> >     government says to, especially when the governments demands dont
> >     match the so called science they're basing it on. And the little
> >     dough ball isnt developing an immune system, he will be that pale
> >     gray sickly kid with a doctors note for PE soon if I dont get him
> >     exposed to some community germs. I'm about to go drag him across a
> >     truck stop floor
> >
> >     On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:35 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >     <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         I have not had nearly enough time with my grandkids yet.
> >         So, trying to optimize the chance of more time with grandkids.
> >         *From:* Lewis Bergman
> >         *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:18 AM
> >         *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
> >         Maybe. At this point, I couldn't care less. Get it, don't get
> >         it. I don't care anymore.
> >         On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:07 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >
> >             I modified all the doors I could so you don’t have to use a
> >             hand to open them.
> >             Put an auto flush valve on the urinal.
> >             We asked all the guys to try to do the 6 foot thing.
> >             Logging temps with an IR thermometer each morning and
> >             posting them on a white board is surprisingly reassuring in
> >             a way.
> >             None of this is expensive or onerous or an overreaction and
> >             will work for all kinds of communicable diseases.
> >             I don’t want them to bring it back to me.  Everyone at my
> >             place is much younger than my wife and myself.  Silly for
> >             those in a particular age demographic to not be as careful
> >             as they can.  I also wear my seat belt, don’t smoke and try
> >             to keep my blood sugar and blood pressure low. To me this is
> >             just more of the same.
> >             *From:* Lewis Bergman
> >             *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:54 AM
> >             *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >             *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
> >             We changed nothing. No distancing, no work from home, no
> >             masks, no gloves. The only thing we are sick of is all the
> >             talk of covid. Workers comp covers this kind of thing and
> >             your ERA is based on the total experience of like industries
> >             which presumably would experience similar sickness rates.
> >             Don't let the fear of liability stop you from doing anything
> >             productive.
> >             On Fri, May 8, 2020, 5:41 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> >
> >                 I never shut down.  I build critical infrastructure.
> >                 We distanced, made sure everyone was in their own
> vehicle.
> >                 Gave them all gloves and masks.  Make sure everyone’s
> >                 temperature is taken and logged each morning.
> >                 If someone gets sick, who gave it to them and who gave
> >                 it to that person.  If you want to attempt to assign
> >                 liability it would as difficult as doing slavery
> >                 reparations in a fair manner.
> >                 The can sue China.
> >                 *From:* Robert
> >                 *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 4:20 PM
> >                 *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> >                 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
> >                 Act of God?   How would you deal with someone getting
> >                 the flu or passing it on?
> >
> >                 On 5/8/20 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >
> >                     Any lawyer will tell you that waiver only goes so
> far.
> >
> >                         On May 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Steve Jones
> >                         mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >                         
> >                         Rotflmao. Waiver of liability. Literally that
> simple
> >                         On Fri, May 8, 2020, 4:55 PM Matt Hoppes
> >                         <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> >
> >                             As we look to reopen our operations, the one
> >                             thing that remains is liability.
> >
> >                             How are you all addressing the liability if
> >                             either your tech gets someone sick (and they
> >                             die), or someone gets your tech sick (and
> >                             now you have a potential OSHA issue on your
> >                             hands.
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