That's why right now is the best time to get it. We have the highest
availability of healthcare resources in my entire lifetime.

On Sat, May 9, 2020, 10:07 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Most of us will need to get it (or vaccines) to stop it's reach from
> getting to everyone.
>
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:50:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>
> That's why right now is the best time to get it. Matt and the talking
> heads keep saying that we all will eventually get this, and they wouldn't
> lie. So right now when the hospitals are empty and 60 percent of healthcare
> staff is laid off is the ideal time to get it. Get it in the fall when it
> resources (again, matt and the talking heads have guaranteed this) are
> taxed due to flu season, and survivability drops.
> From day one I've said infection centers would be the absolute best tool
> to fight this thing. The younger, healthier, medically screened people go
> and get infected, and start treatment immediately. Its effectively the same
> thing as vaccination with a few more steps.
> Morons say "well we dont know that getting it will make you immune" which
> is fine and good, maybe it's not like 99 percent of other viruses. But
> guess what that means. It means that there will never be a vaccine since
> that's what vaccines to (make your body think you've had the disease). Matt
> and the talking heads cannot have it both ways, science doesnt allow it.
>
> I'm in the same boat though, I want to maximize the time with my kids. I
> have this new fresh one that's still just a lump of dough, I'd like to get
> to know what he cooks into. But I wont do this teaching these little
> bastards to cower in the corner because the government says to, especially
> when the governments demands dont match the so called science they're
> basing it on. And the little dough ball isnt developing an immune system,
> he will be that pale gray sickly kid with a doctors note for PE soon if I
> dont get him exposed to some community germs. I'm about to go drag him
> across a truck stop floor
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:35 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I have not had nearly enough time with my grandkids yet.
>> So, trying to optimize the chance of more time with grandkids.
>>
>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:18 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>
>> Maybe. At this point, I couldn't care less. Get it, don't get it. I don't
>> care anymore.
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:07 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I modified all the doors I could so you don’t have to use a hand to open
>>> them.
>>> Put an auto flush valve on the urinal.
>>> We asked all the guys to try to do the 6 foot thing.
>>> Logging temps with an IR thermometer each morning and posting them on a
>>> white board is surprisingly reassuring in a way.
>>> None of this is expensive or onerous or an overreaction and will work
>>> for all kinds of communicable diseases.
>>>
>>> I don’t want them to bring it back to me.  Everyone at my place is much
>>> younger than my wife and myself.  Silly for those in a particular age
>>> demographic to not be as careful as they can.  I also wear my seat belt,
>>> don’t smoke and try to keep my blood sugar and blood pressure low.  To me
>>> this is just more of the same.
>>>
>>> *From:* Lewis Bergman
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:54 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>
>>> We changed nothing. No distancing, no work from home, no masks, no
>>> gloves. The only thing we are sick of is all the talk of covid. Workers
>>> comp covers this kind of thing and your ERA is based on the total
>>> experience of like industries which presumably would experience similar
>>> sickness rates.
>>>
>>> Don't let the fear of liability stop you from doing anything productive.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020, 5:41 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never shut down.  I build critical infrastructure.
>>>> We distanced, made sure everyone was in their own vehicle.
>>>> Gave them all gloves and masks.  Make sure everyone’s temperature is
>>>> taken and logged each morning.
>>>>
>>>> If someone gets sick, who gave it to them and who gave it to that
>>>> person.  If you want to attempt to assign liability it would as difficult
>>>> as doing slavery reparations in a fair manner.
>>>>
>>>> The can sue China.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Robert
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 4:20 PM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability
>>>>
>>>> Act of God?   How would you deal with someone getting the flu or
>>>> passing it on?
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/20 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any lawyer will tell you that waiver only goes so far.
>>>>
>>>> On May 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Steve Jones
>>>> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Rotflmao. Waiver of liability. Literally that simple
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020, 4:55 PM Matt Hoppes <
>>>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As we look to reopen our operations, the one thing that remains is
>>>>> liability.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you all addressing the liability if either your tech gets
>>>>> someone sick (and they die), or someone gets your tech sick (and now you
>>>>> have a potential OSHA issue on your hands.
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