Most of us will need to get it (or vaccines) to stop it's reach from getting to 
everyone. 




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From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:50:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability 


That's why right now is the best time to get it. Matt and the talking heads 
keep saying that we all will eventually get this, and they wouldn't lie. So 
right now when the hospitals are empty and 60 percent of healthcare staff is 
laid off is the ideal time to get it. Get it in the fall when it resources 
(again, matt and the talking heads have guaranteed this) are taxed due to flu 
season, and survivability drops. 
>From day one I've said infection centers would be the absolute best tool to 
>fight this thing. The younger, healthier, medically screened people go and get 
>infected, and start treatment immediately. Its effectively the same thing as 
>vaccination with a few more steps. 
Morons say "well we dont know that getting it will make you immune" which is 
fine and good, maybe it's not like 99 percent of other viruses. But guess what 
that means. It means that there will never be a vaccine since that's what 
vaccines to (make your body think you've had the disease). Matt and the talking 
heads cannot have it both ways, science doesnt allow it. 


I'm in the same boat though, I want to maximize the time with my kids. I have 
this new fresh one that's still just a lump of dough, I'd like to get to know 
what he cooks into. But I wont do this teaching these little bastards to cower 
in the corner because the government says to, especially when the governments 
demands dont match the so called science they're basing it on. And the little 
dough ball isnt developing an immune system, he will be that pale gray sickly 
kid with a doctors note for PE soon if I dont get him exposed to some community 
germs. I'm about to go drag him across a truck stop floor 


On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:35 AM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 






I have not had nearly enough time with my grandkids yet. 
So, trying to optimize the chance of more time with grandkids. 




From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 8:18 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability 


Maybe. At this point, I couldn't care less. Get it, don't get it. I don't care 
anymore. 


On Sat, May 9, 2020, 9:07 AM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 

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I modified all the doors I could so you don’t have to use a hand to open them. 
Put an auto flush valve on the urinal. 
We asked all the guys to try to do the 6 foot thing. 
Logging temps with an IR thermometer each morning and posting them on a white 
board is surprisingly reassuring in a way. 
None of this is expensive or onerous or an overreaction and will work for all 
kinds of communicable diseases. 

I don’t want them to bring it back to me. Everyone at my place is much younger 
than my wife and myself. Silly for those in a particular age demographic to not 
be as careful as they can. I also wear my seat belt, don’t smoke and try to 
keep my blood sugar and blood pressure low. To me this is just more of the 
same. 




From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:54 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability 


We changed nothing. No distancing, no work from home, no masks, no gloves. The 
only thing we are sick of is all the talk of covid. Workers comp covers this 
kind of thing and your ERA is based on the total experience of like industries 
which presumably would experience similar sickness rates. 

Don't let the fear of liability stop you from doing anything productive. 


On Fri, May 8, 2020, 5:41 PM < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: 

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I never shut down. I build critical infrastructure. 
We distanced, made sure everyone was in their own vehicle. 
Gave them all gloves and masks. Make sure everyone’s temperature is taken and 
logged each morning. 

If someone gets sick, who gave it to them and who gave it to that person. If 
you want to attempt to assign liability it would as difficult as doing slavery 
reparations in a fair manner. 

The can sue China. 




From: Robert 
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:20 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID liability 

Act of God? How would you deal with someone getting the flu or passing it on? 


On 5/8/20 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: 

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Any lawyer will tell you that waiver only goes so far. 


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On May 8, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: 




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Rotflmao. Waiver of liability. Literally that simple 


On Fri, May 8, 2020, 4:55 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > 
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As we look to reopen our operations, the one thing that remains is liability. 

How are you all addressing the liability if either your tech gets someone sick 
(and they die), or someone gets your tech sick (and now you have a potential 
OSHA issue on your hands. 
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