Thanks for the response. But, I don't think it can be a trivial task to find the old mails. Because all the key words I can think of are too commonly seen: wave, mail list, communication.
e.g. site:mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-commits/ communication - Google Search<https://www.google.com/search?espv=210&es_sm=119&q=site%3Amail-archives.apache.org%2Fmod_mbox%2Fincubator-wave-commits%2F+communication&oq=site%3Amail-archives.apache.org%2Fmod_mbox%2Fincubator-wave-commits%2F+communication&gs_l=serp.3...5525.10115.0.10476.21.17.4.0.0.1.424.2205.8j3j4j0j1.16.0.starcuni...0...1.1.32.serp..21.0.0.wFjSHgW9WHU> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > On 1 Dec 2013, at 15:35, Frank R. wrote: > > Perhaps, we can have a temporary robot, say incubator-bot, to publish >> waves >> for a wave in a box server back to the mail list. That should be too >> difficult to have. >> > > Please search older mails in the archive. Somebody actually did some work > in that direction > > > >> >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> christian, from my observations of the project i would have to answer no, >>> its not working out ? >>> >>> pardon my passion on this subject (@mailing list) but ive kept quiet for >>> too long. id rather get an argument started on this rather then let wave >>> die the slow death that it is currently facing. passion is what wave >>> needs >>> right now, not patience. >>> >>> i dont think moving wave to github or getting everyone to actually use >>> wave >>> will magically make everything better, but i think that is a step in the >>> right direction that Should have been taken a long time ago. >>> >>> theres no reason that moving discussion to a wave server reduces the open >>> nature of the discussion, as stated previously, its trivial to make an >>> anonymous account to grant anyone access to this discussion if it was on >>> a >>> wave server. also anyone can register on a wave server and participate in >>> the discussion if the wave has been setup properly, theres even a patch >>> somewhere for rendering wave files as html files which would make it >>> searchable by google and everyone esle. federation should make >>> propogating >>> this data to multiple servers possible, using wave as the main discussion >>> area maintains the openness , searchability, and also longevity of the >>> discussion. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier < >>> grobme...@gmail.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: >>>> >>>> i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness of >>>> >>>>> using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof >>>>> amazing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you >>>> >>> probably >>> >>>> have >>>> not understood that the ASF tries to develop in an open way. All >>>> discussions must held >>>> public and must be archived for a long time. The only solution so far is >>>> mailing lists. >>>> Wave is simply not that far to provide that at the moment. >>>> >>>> Of course there is an opportunity to bring Wave to the ASF. But there >>>> are >>>> a lot of requirements >>>> to meet. If you want to develop here, you need to fulfill these >>>> requirements. >>>> >>>> We have discussed that several times. Every of the committers understood >>>> these requirements >>>> and were working against them. However Wave is not there yet. >>>> >>>> This doesn't answer the question which was initially asked: is the ASF >>>> >>> the >>> >>>> right place? >>>> Or more precise: can we as a project ever succeed the incubator and >>>> >>> become >>> >>>> an ASF project? >>>> >>>> This has nothing to do with the great technology behind Wave nor the >>>> willingness of people. >>>> It is: is there enough manpower to live the ASF way or not. >>>> >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> fleeky >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Brumbelow < >>>>> >>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fleeky, those are fine for us, they will do little for outside >>>>> >>>>>> exposure. I would suspect having to use wave in order to learn to use >>>>>> wave might be self defeating. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/ >>> Building+Wave+in+a+Box >>> >>>> >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home >>>>>>> >>>>>>> also there is #wiab on irc.freenode.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> also Ali just a few emails up mentioned that you could start a >>>>>>> discussion >>>>>>> on his wave server , why not try those things first? and if there is >>>>>>> >>>>>> a >>> >>>> problem, go to Ali's wave server and simply start a problems wave add >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> participant @domain to the wave and everyone inclduing Ali on that >>>>>>> server >>>>>>> should be able to see your problem wave, and maybe attempt to answer >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -fleeky >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Brumbelow < >>>>>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thomas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hangouts on air are the recorded versions of Google Hangouts, >>>>>>>> they are streamed and recorded via Youtube. Screencasts, I thought, >>>>>>>> also defaulted to being recorded. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know during my years of teaching, video was often preferred by >>>>>>>> students simply because even in step by step instruction, aka hand >>>>>>>> holding, there would be something glossed over, ignored or assumed >>>>>>>> known by students or the teacher. Video shows every keystroke, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> command >>> >>>> and mouse movement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kelly Brumbelow >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> @grobmeier >>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>> >>>> >>> > > --- > http://www.grobmeier.de > @grobmeier > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >
