So are you confirming then that Wave as it stands can (stably) take very long discussion threads with lots of comments?
I wasn't even aware the storage format of the current Wave builds was final. Maybe more has progressed in the last year then I was aware of. ~~~ Thomas & Bertines online review show: http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) On 29 November 2013 23:44, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> wrote: > christian, from my observations of the project i would have to answer no, > its not working out ? > > pardon my passion on this subject (@mailing list) but ive kept quiet for > too long. id rather get an argument started on this rather then let wave > die the slow death that it is currently facing. passion is what wave needs > right now, not patience. > > i dont think moving wave to github or getting everyone to actually use wave > will magically make everything better, but i think that is a step in the > right direction that Should have been taken a long time ago. > > theres no reason that moving discussion to a wave server reduces the open > nature of the discussion, as stated previously, its trivial to make an > anonymous account to grant anyone access to this discussion if it was on a > wave server. also anyone can register on a wave server and participate in > the discussion if the wave has been setup properly, theres even a patch > somewhere for rendering wave files as html files which would make it > searchable by google and everyone esle. federation should make propogating > this data to multiple servers possible, using wave as the main discussion > area maintains the openness , searchability, and also longevity of the > discussion. > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: > > > > i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness of > >> using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof > >> amazing. > >> > > > > If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you > probably > > have > > not understood that the ASF tries to develop in an open way. All > > discussions must held > > public and must be archived for a long time. The only solution so far is > > mailing lists. > > Wave is simply not that far to provide that at the moment. > > > > Of course there is an opportunity to bring Wave to the ASF. But there are > > a lot of requirements > > to meet. If you want to develop here, you need to fulfill these > > requirements. > > > > We have discussed that several times. Every of the committers understood > > these requirements > > and were working against them. However Wave is not there yet. > > > > This doesn't answer the question which was initially asked: is the ASF > the > > right place? > > Or more precise: can we as a project ever succeed the incubator and > become > > an ASF project? > > > > This has nothing to do with the great technology behind Wave nor the > > willingness of people. > > It is: is there enough manpower to live the ASF way or not. > > > > Christian > > > > > > > >> fleeky > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Brumbelow < > rkbrumbe...@gmail.com > >> >wrote: > >> > >> Fleeky, those are fine for us, they will do little for outside > >>> exposure. I would suspect having to use wave in order to learn to use > >>> wave might be self defeating. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Building+Wave+in+a+Box > >>>> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home > >>>> > >>>> also there is #wiab on irc.freenode.net > >>>> > >>>> also Ali just a few emails up mentioned that you could start a > >>>> discussion > >>>> on his wave server , why not try those things first? and if there is > a > >>>> problem, go to Ali's wave server and simply start a problems wave add > >>>> the > >>>> participant @domain to the wave and everyone inclduing Ali on that > >>>> server > >>>> should be able to see your problem wave, and maybe attempt to answer > >>>> your > >>>> problem. > >>>> > >>>> -fleeky > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Brumbelow < > >>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Thomas, > >>>>> Hangouts on air are the recorded versions of Google Hangouts, > >>>>> they are streamed and recorded via Youtube. Screencasts, I thought, > >>>>> also defaulted to being recorded. > >>>>> > >>>>> I know during my years of teaching, video was often preferred by > >>>>> students simply because even in step by step instruction, aka hand > >>>>> holding, there would be something glossed over, ignored or assumed > >>>>> known by students or the teacher. Video shows every keystroke, > command > >>>>> and mouse movement > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Kelly Brumbelow > >>> > >>> > > > > --- > > http://www.grobmeier.de > > @grobmeier > > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > > >
