Thank you. I got it. Email bridge bot<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/201306.mbox/%3ccaorbtqwyocxjk3r2qqfhqp+yq0fas_m4u0ohx7aziswm6cw...@mail.gmail.com%3E>
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote: > Christian is referring to > CAORBtqwYOCXJK3r2QqFhqP+YQ0fas_m4U0oHX7AZiswm6CwPyQ > > By 'search the archives' - yes, you can sometimes use Google for the > task. But sometimes, it is easier to simply manually look through them > for a subject that describes what you are searching for. > (In this case 'email bridge bot'). > > Ali > > On 1 December 2013 17:00, Frank R. <renfeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the response. But, I don't think it can be a trivial task to > > find the old mails. Because all the key words I can think of are too > > commonly seen: wave, mail list, communication. > > > > e.g. site:mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-commits/ > > communication - Google > > Search< > https://www.google.com/search?espv=210&es_sm=119&q=site%3Amail-archives.apache.org%2Fmod_mbox%2Fincubator-wave-commits%2F+communication&oq=site%3Amail-archives.apache.org%2Fmod_mbox%2Fincubator-wave-commits%2F+communication&gs_l=serp.3...5525.10115.0.10476.21.17.4.0.0.1.424.2205.8j3j4j0j1.16.0.starcuni...0...1.1.32.serp..21.0.0.wFjSHgW9WHU > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier < > grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> On 1 Dec 2013, at 15:35, Frank R. wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps, we can have a temporary robot, say incubator-bot, to publish > >>> waves > >>> for a wave in a box server back to the mail list. That should be too > >>> difficult to have. > >>> > >> > >> Please search older mails in the archive. Somebody actually did some > work > >> in that direction > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> christian, from my observations of the project i would have to answer > no, > >>>> its not working out ? > >>>> > >>>> pardon my passion on this subject (@mailing list) but ive kept quiet > for > >>>> too long. id rather get an argument started on this rather then let > wave > >>>> die the slow death that it is currently facing. passion is what wave > >>>> needs > >>>> right now, not patience. > >>>> > >>>> i dont think moving wave to github or getting everyone to actually use > >>>> wave > >>>> will magically make everything better, but i think that is a step in > the > >>>> right direction that Should have been taken a long time ago. > >>>> > >>>> theres no reason that moving discussion to a wave server reduces the > open > >>>> nature of the discussion, as stated previously, its trivial to make an > >>>> anonymous account to grant anyone access to this discussion if it was > on > >>>> a > >>>> wave server. also anyone can register on a wave server and > participate in > >>>> the discussion if the wave has been setup properly, theres even a > patch > >>>> somewhere for rendering wave files as html files which would make it > >>>> searchable by google and everyone esle. federation should make > >>>> propogating > >>>> this data to multiple servers possible, using wave as the main > discussion > >>>> area maintains the openness , searchability, and also longevity of the > >>>> discussion. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier < > >>>> grobme...@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness > of > >>>>> > >>>>>> using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof > >>>>>> amazing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you > >>>>> > >>>> probably > >>>> > >>>>> have > >>>>> not understood that the ASF tries to develop in an open way. All > >>>>> discussions must held > >>>>> public and must be archived for a long time. The only solution so > far is > >>>>> mailing lists. > >>>>> Wave is simply not that far to provide that at the moment. > >>>>> > >>>>> Of course there is an opportunity to bring Wave to the ASF. But there > >>>>> are > >>>>> a lot of requirements > >>>>> to meet. If you want to develop here, you need to fulfill these > >>>>> requirements. > >>>>> > >>>>> We have discussed that several times. Every of the committers > understood > >>>>> these requirements > >>>>> and were working against them. However Wave is not there yet. > >>>>> > >>>>> This doesn't answer the question which was initially asked: is the > ASF > >>>>> > >>>> the > >>>> > >>>>> right place? > >>>>> Or more precise: can we as a project ever succeed the incubator and > >>>>> > >>>> become > >>>> > >>>>> an ASF project? > >>>>> > >>>>> This has nothing to do with the great technology behind Wave nor the > >>>>> willingness of people. > >>>>> It is: is there enough manpower to live the ASF way or not. > >>>>> > >>>>> Christian > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> fleeky > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Brumbelow < > >>>>>> > >>>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fleeky, those are fine for us, they will do little for outside > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> exposure. I would suspect having to use wave in order to learn to > use > >>>>>>> wave might be self defeating. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/ > >>>> Building+Wave+in+a+Box > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> also there is #wiab on irc.freenode.net > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> also Ali just a few emails up mentioned that you could start a > >>>>>>>> discussion > >>>>>>>> on his wave server , why not try those things first? and if > there is > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> a > >>>> > >>>>> problem, go to Ali's wave server and simply start a problems wave add > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> participant @domain to the wave and everyone inclduing Ali on that > >>>>>>>> server > >>>>>>>> should be able to see your problem wave, and maybe attempt to > answer > >>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>> problem. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -fleeky > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Brumbelow < > >>>>>>>> rkbrumbe...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thomas, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hangouts on air are the recorded versions of Google Hangouts, > >>>>>>>>> they are streamed and recorded via Youtube. Screencasts, I > thought, > >>>>>>>>> also defaulted to being recorded. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I know during my years of teaching, video was often preferred by > >>>>>>>>> students simply because even in step by step instruction, aka > hand > >>>>>>>>> holding, there would be something glossed over, ignored or > assumed > >>>>>>>>> known by students or the teacher. Video shows every keystroke, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> command > >>>> > >>>>> and mouse movement > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Kelly Brumbelow > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de > >>>>> @grobmeier > >>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> --- > >> http://www.grobmeier.de > >> @grobmeier > >> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB > >> >
