On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Jonathan Morton wrote:

> Well put.  I haven't even been able to *find* a workable, free SSH or SCP
> implementation for my Macs, let alone figure out how to use it.

http://www.macssh.com/

> The same goes for file transfer - and by that I mean across the Internet.
> Putting security concerns aside for a moment, I can run a freeware FTP
> server and/or client on my Mac with a reasonable amount of ease.  However,
> these Macs are behind a double-firewall which I have little control over,
> and so accessing these services is extremely difficult.

Those double firewalls deny common file transfer mechanisms for a
reason.  I have to side with you network administrator on this.

> There is a *very* simple FTP client built into Windows, but it's hardly
> easy to use.

If by easy you mean GUI then you are correct, it is non-GUI.  However,
typical transfers require approximately 3 commands to be typed.

> BTW, even NetPresenz is shareware.

Are you arguing that all software should be free?

> Secure connections, which are
> the other "big want" right now, will need more than that due to the complex
> encryption algorithms involved

This is doubtfull since most of the encryption algorithms commercially
used today comprise of few lines of code.  RC5's encryption pseudocode
is only 5 lines long, see page 8 of:

ftp://ftp.rsasecurity.com/pub/rsalabs/rc5/rc5-report.pdf

> I think even "power users" like myself would love to have such a
> description, especially in the case where (as at present) no file-transfer
> facility is available at the VNC level, or that functionality has been
> disabled.  Sometimes we have to work with unfamiliar platforms, too.

Why will "power users" like you not provide such a description then?

Tom
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