I guess that's all ya get with free software. Let's not forget the Windows
gurus. ;)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Morris, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:35 AM
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Subject: RE: FTP Server
(soapbox on)
Why is discussion so adversarial. One class of users has a problem and keeps
posting requests. Another class of users desn't have that problem and
basically declares the first group to be stupid because they can't figure it
out.
Let me state my suspicion:
I think we have a UNIX guru v.s Windoz end user split here. The UNIX guru
has no problem and is disdainful of those idiots who chose to use Windoz
anyway. Their issues are considered unimportant. The UNIX guru wannabes jump
in with unhelpful "me too" posts that repeat the same inadequete
suggestions. The naive Windoz user has a single minded focus on a single
solution (expand the VNC protocol) and responds negatively to every counter
suggestion. Can't we try to avoid class warefare and try to solve the
problem instead.
I am a long time UNIX user/developer. I did a port of V7 UNIX to a 68000 in
1981. I conceed UNIX guru standing to few people. In many ways my carreer
has been data transfer. I could create a solution from scratch with enough
time and money. In spite of that I can't find an EASY solution to the file
transfer problem between Windoz systems. On Windoz I am a relative novice
and I have sympathy for the other Windoz novices. I think this is the key
platform generating all of these requests. Every UNIX box already has an FTP
server running unless someone goes out of their way to disable it. Windoz
(and the Mac) are more problematic.
Part of the problem is the ease of VNC installation. 90% of the people of
all skill levels are quickly up and running assuming secure access has
already been addressed. This means that VNC itself is usable by a large
spread of skill sets.
What would be helpful as a start is for someone to collect the currently
existing solutions into a single document and then somehow make that
document available to VNC users, probably as a pointer in the FAQ. (I would
be happy to host the document on my web pages if there is no better
solution.) It is all well and good to declare this to be not a VNC issue but
it is a perennial issue for many VNC users. Once you make a connection often
the second thing many users want to do is copy a file. The current FAQ
addresses this issue basically by saying "we ain't going to do it; you're on
your own." This is unhelpful to say the least and generally perceived as
negative and adversarial by people trying to solve the problem for
themselves.
(soapbox off)
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