Just for that, I'll chime in.  The reasons I wouldn't want such
a feature are creeping bloat and creeping bugs.  If you are on
the 'net (required for VNC, right?) then you already have the
ability to run FTP or any number of other file transfer progs,
on any real computer system, anyway.

I don't care what operating system you're using.  I may not
care for all the platforms that VNC runs on, but I sure do
respect and approve of the fact that VNC does so!

>From the VNC home page:

  What is VNC? - A practical introduction

    VNC stands for Virtual Network Computing. It is, in essence,
    a remote display system which allows you to view a computing
    'desktop' environment not only on the machine where it is running,
    but from anywhere on the Internet and from a wide variety of
    machine architectures.

I'm all for progress, but I don't see any mention of file transfer
in there.

My 2 cents.  So shoot me.

Raye.

> Ok, from now on, only those who would have something to do with the
> development of such a feature in VNC need reply.  I can't stop you, I'm just
> suggesting that there is no need for you to.  We've all heard that a bunch
> of people want it and a few people don't (for reasons that don't hold
> water).  Now, the thread has resorted to belittling people because of the
> operating system that they choose to run and so forth.  I think that we are
> way off topic here, and bickering is not going to get anything done.
>   If someone wants to tackle it from a VB end for us lowly Windows users,
> let me know and I'll go in on it with you.  If someone wants to make an
> executable in C++ or something to make it easier to distribute, then go
> ahead, but I regret that I can't help much there.  I'm not sure if I can
> free up enough time to do it all myself, so if there are any VB programmers
> out there itching for a project, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Let's
> stop bashing on each other and start getting productive.  Cool?
> 
> -Steve Bostedor
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wayne Throop
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FTP Server
> 
> : Jonathan Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : The same goes for file transfer - and by that I mean across the Internet.
> : Putting security concerns aside for a moment, I can run a freeware FTP
> : server and/or client on my Mac with a reasonable amount of ease.  However,
> : these Macs are behind a double-firewall which I have little control over,
> : and so accessing these services is extremely difficult.  It's fiddly
> enough
> : setting up a tunnel to run VNC through in the first place.
> 
> That's why I recommend a solution via an http server intermediary.
> Because of firewall and portability issues.   And then such a tool would
> be useful for more than just VNC use.
> 
> : I hardly think that a simple file-transfer capability, such as the one
> : I outlined the other day, would increase the executable code size by
> : more than about 20K - and that's a pessimistic estimate, based on my
> : experience with RISC processors (which usually have larger-than-normal
> : code sizes).
> 
> Adding such a thing doesn't really require any modifications
> to VNC servers, viewers, or the RFB protocol.  Anybody who wanted a
> VNC-specific solution could right now write two little items for both
> ends of their connection, and package these with their own VNC
> distribution, and use it as proof of concept.  One to put files into
> the cut buffer, and another to remove them from it.  For unix on each
> end, it could be done as a few dozen lines of tcl/tk or perl/tk.
> But I suspect most folks wanting such a thing would want
> a windows-to-windows version, not unix-to-unix, not so?
> 
> I'd still recommend a separate tool, though.
> Plugging together the ends by talking to an httpd server
> seems better solution to firewall and portability issues
> than trying to plug the ends together via
> the VNC connection.
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