Hi Margaret,

Go to Settings, Siri & Search, Listen for “Hey Siri”. The setting choices here 
are 1. “Siri” or “Hey Siri” or 2. “Hey Siri” or 3. Off

I have mine set to option 2, Hey Siri. When I posted the earlier instructions 
you are referencing, I believe I was still running iOS 16.X so I expect I made 
a pig's breakfast of them. 

I'm not sure if you will be successful changing any of your settings if you are 
having difficulty with the tapping gesture. You can certainly try changing the 
hey Siri setting to see if you can get what you want. 

Good luck and happy Thanksgiving. 

Alan Lemly . 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Margaret Thomas <avidrea...@fastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon:
> 
> I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way 
> through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the 
> update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a 
> problem with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for and select 
> Hey Siri instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right now, when I do 
> not press the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri responds with Hey 
> Siri as well as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new 
> follow-up feature I think I heard about.
> 
> The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. I may 
> have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info 
> might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping 
> since the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  
> Do I have to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Margaret
> 
> 
>> On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
>> James,
>> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
>> Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of 
>> Siri and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley <bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
>>> accidently triggered Ciri.
>>> 
>>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
>>> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
>>> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because 
>>> she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>>> 
>>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
>>> version of IOS 17.
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
>>> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> James B
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>> 
>>> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
>>> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and 
>>> quit, because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free 
>>> Siri and just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used 
>>> hey Siri except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>>>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus 
>>>> it cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>>>> Pretty pointless.
>>>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>>>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, 
>>>> then maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around 
>>>> at best even if it works.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Lynn Schneider
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
>>>> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is 
>>>> reading back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. 
>>>> It is like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started 
>>>> recently. He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about 
>>>> a day, but then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on 
>>>> how to solve this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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