Well.  I sure hope that just saying Ciri works way to heck better than just 
saying Alexa to my Echo devices.

And, of course, you are right about eventually being forced to update for 
several different reasons.

James B  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

If I had a Dollar for every time I heard that whatever new version of iOS apple 
released is the worst version ever I could go on a nice holiday.
Yes, you can now say just "Siri, what time is it" and it works fine. But since 
I have been using iOS 17 which has been since the first public beta in early 
July, Siri has never been triggered accidently.
And as far as never updating to iOS 17, that is a completely irrelavent 
statement because even if you never update to iOS 17, eventually you need a new 
phone so unless you buy an Android phone, whenevber you get a new phone you get 
whatever iOS version is then the current one, maybe iOS 18 or 19 or if your 
current phone still hangs in there for 3 years maybe it will be iOS 20 and I 
doubt Apple will necessarily see a reason to restrict Siri to "Hey Siri" again.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B  


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
> Pretty pointless.
> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
> maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
> even if it works.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Lynn 
> Schneider
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading 
> back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like 
> Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. He 
> thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but then 
> went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve this 
> problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> Sent from my iPhone
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