Three finger triple tap with voiceover off? Not too necessary. When sighted 
people use my phone, voiceover is always disabled for obvious reasons. I 
thought that would be self understood, but perhaps not. Anyway, the phone is 
done disabled gone. And I have a new phone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Considering the sighted can't see anything, a 3 finger triple tap? 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  <[email protected]>
> To: "'[email protected]'"  <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:35 pm
> Subject: RE: Dead phone
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm confused about your situation. But if the screen curtain is on and 
>> somehow your voice over volume is zero, that scenario sounds to me like your 
>> describing, possibly.
>> 
>> Have you tried a 2-finger swipe up to get voice over working and then use 
>> the volume up button?
>> 
>> I suspect you've tried this and that communication is somewhere in this 
>> thread, but just in case you haven't, I'm sending this on.
>> 
>> Have you called Apple Accessibility?
>> 
>> Keith.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Dead phone
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> 
>> I suppose you might have seen a note I sent on Wayne's thread about his 
>> experience. But in case not: when I say dead screen, I mean, dead. No 
>> gestures work. Sighted husband sees nothing on screen with VO disabled. And 
>> here you see I am entering data with my lightning connected keyboard. In 
>> short, everything on this phone is working but the screen, which is totally 
>> gone. 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I am sending this to you directly as well since it seems you may not have 
>>> seen my earlier message.
>>> 
>>> Have you tried my suggestion which was to see if typing style has been 
>>> reset to the default which is standard typing. If this happens it may seem 
>>> something is terribly wrong when you come to the passcode screen because 
>>> you can touch the numbers, Voiceover will announce them, but nothing is 
>>> typed because you are used to touch typing and would have to double tap or 
>>> split tap the numbers in order to enter your passcode with standard typing.
>>> 
>>> If your iPhone is being recognized by iTunes I also don't see why you would 
>>> need to enter DFU/recovery mode. You could just connect it, do a backup and 
>>> then do a restore. When it initially finishes the restore I suggest you set 
>>> it up as a new phone to make sure everything works, you can always restore 
>>> from your backup once you know everything is good. Sometimes things can go 
>>> wrong on a phone and certain issues can be part of a backup so if 
>>> everything is good when the phone is set up as a new phone and you run into 
>>> issues again after rstoring from the backup then it's time to bit into the 
>>> sour Apple so to speak and to just set up as a new phone and to redo 
>>> everything from scratch, e.g. set up your email, download your apps, 
>>> arrange them the way you want on the home screens and folders etc. It's a 
>>> lot of work, but sometimes it can be worth it.
>>> 
>>> When you say "the screen is dead" what exactly do you mean? Does not 
>>> Voiceover read what apps are on the screen and can you not swipe around, 
>>> open apps etc.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:24 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Dead phone
>>> 
>>> Well folks,
>>> It looks like my phone is dead. I tried several times to get it to restart, 
>>> but every time, I get to that screen where it wants my passcode, because I 
>>> have touch ID to unlock the phone. And I can't enter a passcode, because 
>>> none of my gestures are seen, and voice over doesn't speak. It's like the 
>>> screen is dead, although the phone talks and the buttons work. I have a 
>>> friend who had something similar happen, and he has a 5S. In his case, 
>>> after nothing was working, voiceover wasn't talking, screen seemed dead 
>>> etc,  he did the force restart. After that, voiceover came back. But for 
>>> me, no such luck. I wonder how common this is. The folks at the store just 
>>> said it's a dead phone. But I wonder. Is it some kind of weird interaction 
>>> between iOS nine and VoiceOver? Has anybody heard of this happening to 
>>> others, with or without voiceover? And while I'm at it, why don't earth 
>>> does Apple want your pass code once you restart your phone and want to use 
>>> touch ID? I mean, it's not like somebody can rip your finger off and use it 
>>> and not have to know your passcode. It seems stupid. What am I missing?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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