Hi!
Yes, but the frequency of overlap in nonspam that I'm seeing at my site is disturbing. I've posted examples of this, and they keep getting ignored.
You posted overlap in URIBL and SURBL, thats the same as posting overlap inside Spamcop and Spamhaus...
This IS a real problem. I am not speculating. I've posted two real domains on this list that have had the problem for me in the past 7 days. ultraedit-updates.com: OB + uribl black (delisted from both at my request) winterizewithscotts.com: OB + uribl black (I have intentionally NOT submitted a delist request for this domain)
Its two different list, URIBL is not even part of the SA disctibution as far as i know. The scoring is done based on several rules, and URIBL wasnt one of them. Its reather silly to say look i added another URIBL and now scoring is weird and twisted.
What level of FP problem is going to make you guys wake up on this? Do I have to come up with a list of 1000 domains before you'll accept reality? Nonspam overlap in the URBLS is a real problem. No really, it's real. I'm not making this up.
I see OB and URIBL, i dont see any OB+JP or any other sublist inside SURBL. It might sound childish but its not. We see the reports comming in daily, and we really dont share your feelings. Based on statistics i also say, its non existing.
If you guys want to continue to pretend the problem doesn't exist, so be it. I'll adjust my own scores. But don't say I didn't warn you when you get bit in the ass by this later.
You made your point. That some other people dont share your feelings doesnt mean you are not heard. It most likely means people have different opinions about this subject.
But why do they so commonly overlap in NONSPAM too? And why does nobody care? Why does everyone insist the problem doesn't exist in spite of examples to the contrary.
Again, those examples are NOT showing me there is FP overlap inside SURBL. SURBL and URIBL are two different things.
At my site, the URBLs overlap. Period. They have overlapping spam hits, and they have overlapping FPs. The first half isn't a problem, but the second half IS.
At my site RBLs overlap also. I think your main problem as i can tell is your score for both OB and URIBL. OB has a lot of FP's, and i tend to say it increased over the last months. When we look at the number of reports we get in on the whitelist alias. URIBL FP rate has always been high. Its up to you how you score it. Its not part of SA (yet) and scoring is based on your own personal feeling, right?
I've seen nonspam overlaps between URIBL, WS, OB and JP in all sorts of random mixtures. Most commonly URIBL_BLACK + OB or URIBL_BLACK+WS, but I've seen some WS+OB and OB+JP before too.
Its really been some time now that we got in a whitelist request with JP involved. I dont say we never get them, but its rather rare.
With around 250.000 domains added its not really suprisingly theres overlap. And if you like, submit FP's to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So we can sort them.
Thanks! Raymond.
