On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 10:56 PM Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov= 40microsoft....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> Yes, we need SecP384 hybrids. > > More generally, I see two separate hybrid key exchange drafts under > discussion in the TLS WG: > - draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design-10 refers to pre-standard Kyber; > - draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-01 defines hybrids with ML-KEM 768. > The latter is merely an instantiation of the former. A few IETF ago we wanted to add codepoints to hybrid-design for X25519Kyber768Draft00, but the working group felt that a separate document was more appropriate. hybrid-design only mentions pre-standards Kyber, because it wasn't updated to reflect the release of ML-KEM. It doesn't define codepoints. > > Both drafts are on the Informational track. Do we really need two separate > documents? Also, shouldn't this work be on the Standards track? > > Cheers, > > Andrei > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alicja Kario <hka...@redhat.com> > Sent: Friday, September 6, 2024 4:40 AM > To: Kris Kwiatkowski <k...@amongbytes.com>; tls@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [TLS] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P-384 > > Hello, > > What's the situation with other groups for TLS 1.3? > Specifically, are there any plans to specify SecP384r1MLKEM1024? > > As mentioned in multiple emails already, high security system already have > a strict requirement to use P-384 curve exclusively. > Similarly, for post-quantum resistance they will be required to use > ML-KEM-1024. > > Will you add it to the draft, or should we start work on a separate one > that defines those hybrid algorithms? > -- > Regards, > Alicja (nee Hubert) Kario > Principal Quality Engineer, RHEL Crypto team > Web: http://www.cz.redhat.com/ > Red Hat Czech s.r.o., Purkyňova 115, 612 00, Brno, Czech Republic > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org >
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