I assume draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design will remove all mentioning of Kyber and 
only refer to the final standardized ML-KEM. I don't think TLS WG should 
publish anything with Kyber.

I think hybrids with ML-KEM should be standard track and Recommended = Y. I 
think all hybrids of ML-KEM with curves that are  Recommended = Y should be 
Recommended = Y.

Cheers,
John

From: Kris Kwiatkowski <k...@amongbytes.com>
Date: Tuesday, 10 September 2024 at 08:09
To: Andrei Popov <andrei.po...@microsoft.com>
Cc: Bas Westerbaan <bas=40cloudflare....@dmarc.ietf.org>, tls@ietf.org 
<tls@ietf.org>
Subject: [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem and P-384

> On 10 Sep 2024, at 00:17, Andrei Popov <andrei.po...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> This makes sense, however shouldn’t draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-01 be 
> on the Standards track?
> Also, what is the thinking behind “Recommended: N” for the code points?

The draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design draft is on the Informational track. I thought 
it makes sense to keep
same standardisation track for draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem.
My understanding (according to RFC 8126, section 4.9) is that "Recommended: Y” 
requires documents to be
standardised in Standards or BCP tracks, as we don’t then Recommended is set to 
N.
Hence, that’s the logic behind it.

Cheers,
Kris
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