A preset is never going to help for cases where the store is a mix of things.
The bakery in my hometown also sells cheese and some deli products. Does it become a deli then ? It sells chocolate eggs during the easter period, and chocolate and marzipan figures around Sinterklaas. Is it now a confectionary ? It sells pies all year, but mainly during the weekends. For Christmas and New Year eve they even serve (almost) complete dinners. It's still a bakery... but some people might be tempted to map it in a different way. Do I want to map all of those period dependent items ? Do I want to map all the type of specialty breads that they sell (or not) ? What I try to say is that we sometimes have to simplify things and make choices in our mapping. I don't think OSM will be the only source on which people will base themselves before going to a place. Maybe we will always be the last one, i.e. people will look for a place elsewhere, the web, apps such as Yelp and just use OSM for navigation, buy looking up the name. That's fine for me. regards m On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Daniel Koć <daniel@koć.pl> wrote: > W dniu 31.05.2015 20:07, Marc Gemis napisał(a): > > I think good presets in the editors are much more important than any >> proposal to move something from one top level tag to another. Only in >> case there is a problem to extend the schema (e.g. drinking water and >> water), it is worthwhile to discuss a change. >> > > +1 - of course, for everyday mapping I use presets and I love them! > > But lack of a clear system is also common, everyday fact of life for me > too. Many things are not-that-typical, similar-but-not-really-the-same (for > example in my city many people had a problem to recognize such a simple > thing as what is supermarket, mall or department store!) or simply > not-in-presets. One has to choose blindly between "railway halt" and > "railway station", because no safe, more general type is available - nor > easy to create (like "railway + stop place") or whether some POI is shop or > rather craft, just because there are "compulsive" "top-level" tags (while > it's less important than the subject itself). > > I would like to have common presets system synchronized between editors, > Wiki pages and default rendering somehow, at least. But that would be still > just a quick fix for today, while I think we'll grow outside the western > countries (big scale problem) and deeper into micromapping (small scale > problem) in a few years and we're not really prepared for it. > > -- > "The train is always on time / The trick is to be ready to put your bags > down" [A. Cohen] > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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