I agree w/ this. Having the expansion could help too. <w> <abbr type="nomSac"> <hi rend="overline">υν</hi> </abbr> </w>
> On Mar 13, 2025, at 7:52 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org> wrote: > > This is how we record nomen sacrum in TEI and should transfer to OSIS just > fine, e.g., > > https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/vmr/api/transcript/get/?docID=20001&indexContent=John.3.16&format=teiraw > > > > On 3/13/25 4:28 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: >> I think the best and correct way is to call this ‘display’ and encode the >> exact look you want to achieve via style sheet. >> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> >> From: sword-devel <sword-devel-boun...@crosswire.org> >> <mailto:sword-devel-boun...@crosswire.org> on behalf of David Haslam >> <dfh...@protonmail.com> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2025 2:34 pm >> To: Alan Bunning <greekc...@gmail.com> <mailto:greekc...@gmail.com> >> Cc: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT >> >> It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the OSIS the >> equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki format ! >> >> {{overline|ΘΥ}} >> >> I doubt if the SWORD engine has a means to implement that! >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> secure email. >> >> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam >> <dfh...@protonmail.com> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks, Alan, for the explanation. >> >> This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS abbr >> element for each instance. This would require that each type of nomina >> sacrum would then need to be retained as the abbreviation, and then expanded >> using the XML attribute, e.g. >> >> <abbr expansion="Θεοῦ">ΘΥ</abbr> >> >> Please refer to the OSIS User Manual section 13.2 >> >> NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to display the >> expansions! >> The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore cc: to >> sword-devel in this reply. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> secure email. >> >> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM, Alan Bunning <greekc...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:greekc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra. >> >> Alan Bunning, D.Litt. >> Executive Director >> Center for New Testament Restoration >> https://greekcntr.org <https://greekcntr.org/> >> >> On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote: >> Dear Alan, >> I received the following emails. I haven't looked into them very much, but >> maybe you want to join the conversation. >> Blessings, Zoltan >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> Feladó: David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com>> >> Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37 >> Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT >> To: pierre amadio <amadio.pie...@gmail.com <mailto:amadio.pie...@gmail.com>> >> Cc: Kovács Zoltán <kov...@gmail.com <mailto:kov...@gmail.com>>, >> <modu...@crosswire.org <mailto:modu...@crosswire.org>> >> >> >> Hi Pierre, >> >> That's a very plausible explanation! >> >> Here are the relevant lines from my word count. >> >> Word Count >> ˚Θεέ 2 >> ˚Θεοῦ 690 >> ˚Θεόν 73 >> ˚Θεός 68 >> ˚Θεὸν 72 >> ˚Θεὸς 239 >> ˚Θεῷ 158 >> ˚Κυρίου 231 >> ˚Κυρίῳ 95 >> ˚Κύριε 89 >> ˚Κύριον 63 >> ˚Κύριος 139 >> ˚Κύριόν 1 >> ˚Κύριός 10 >> ˚Πνεύματι 59 >> ˚Πνεύματος 79 >> ˚Πνεύματός 5 >> ˚Πνεῦμά 7 >> ˚Πνεῦμα 99 >> ˚Χριστέ 1 >> ˚Χριστοῦ 252 >> ˚Χριστόν 18 >> ˚Χριστός 41 >> ˚Χριστὸν 48 >> ˚Χριστὸς 71 >> ˚Χριστῷ 104 >> ˚θεὸς 1 >> ˚Ἰησοῦ 329 >> ˚Ἰησοῦν 126 >> ˚Ἰησοῦς 456 >> >> NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of nomina sacra, then it >> ought to be described in the conf file! >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> secure email. >> >> >> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio >> amadio.pie...@gmail.com <mailto:amadio.pie...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi there. >> >> As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a circular mark >> such as Ring Above (U+02DA). >> Looking at the source text, they seem to always appears next to words such as >> https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt >> ˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ, >> ˚Πνεύματος >> ˚Κυρίου >> >> Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra in manuscripts ? >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra >> >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán kov...@gmail.com >> <mailto:kov...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to you. >> Best, Zoltan >> >> David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> ezt írta >> (időpont: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 13:33): >> >> Arising from the grapheme count, I have a further technical query. >> >> There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE. >> >> I am wondering whether these would be better being all replaced by U+030A >> COMBINING RING ABOVE, and if so, whether the mark should follow the Greek >> letter rather than precede it. >> >> NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents rules is fairly limited. >> >> Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for viewing a Greek NT text? >> Might it be sensible to include such an element in the .conf file? >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >> >> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM, David Haslam >> dfh...@protonmail.com <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Kovács, >> >> Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a grapheme count on the full Greek >> text with accents. >> i.e. After first stripping out the references from the diatheke output. See >> inside attached 7-Zip file. >> >> There are two left/right count mismatches that ought to be looked at. >> >> 2018 ‘ 483 >> 2019 ’ 484 >> 201C “ 1,904 >> 201D ” 1,907 >> >> cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK. >> >> 0028 ( 62 >> 0029 ) 62 >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >> >> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM, David Haslam >> dfh...@protonmail.com <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: >> >> This module has the wrong Versification. >> >> It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply the wrong choice! >> >> Please fix this ASAP. >> >> Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script that led to this mistake! >> >> Best regards, >> >> David >> >> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >> >> On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM, dom...@crosswire.org >> <mailto:dom...@crosswire.org> dom...@crosswire.org >> <mailto:dom...@crosswire.org> wrote: >> >> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded StatResGNT >> in the CrossWire beta repository for testing purposes. >> >> If no raised concern nor a quality alert has been sent on the list, >> StatResGNT will be published in a week. >> >> This is an update. >> Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453) >> Version=1.3 >> History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest release (last database change: >> 2024-07-16) >> TextSource=https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt >> Versification=LXX >> >> Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work. >> >> yours >> >> P.S.: This email is sent automatically. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> modules mailing list >> modu...@crosswire.org <mailto:modu...@crosswire.org> >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/modules >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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