This is how we record nomen sacrum in TEI and should transfer to OSIS just fine, e.g.,

https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/vmr/api/transcript/get/?docID=20001&indexContent=John.3.16&format=teiraw


On 3/13/25 4:28 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
I think the best and correct way is to call this ‘display’ and encode the exact look you want to achieve via style sheet.

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It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the OSIS the equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki format !

{{overline|ΘΥ}}

I doubt if the SWORD engine has a means to implement that!

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David

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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote:

    Thanks, Alan, for the explanation.

    This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS
    *abbr* element for each instance. This would require that each
    type of */nomina sacrum/* would then need to be retained as the
    abbreviation, and then expanded using the XML attribute, e.g.

    <abbr expansion="Θεοῦ">ΘΥ</abbr>

    Please refer to the *OSIS User Manual* section 13.2

    NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to display
    the expansions!
    /The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore cc:
    to /*/sword-devel/*/ in this reply.
    /

    Best regards,

    David

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    On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM, Alan Bunning
    <greekc...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra.

        /Alan Bunning, D.Litt.
        Executive Director
        Center for New Testament Restoration
        https://greekcntr.org/

        On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote:

            Dear Alan,
            I received the following emails. I haven't looked into
            them very much, but maybe you want to join the conversation.
            Blessings, Zoltan

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            Hi Pierre,

            That's a very plausible explanation!

            Here are the relevant lines from my *word count*.

                Word Count
                ˚Θεέ 2
                ˚Θεοῦ 690
                ˚Θεόν 73
                ˚Θεός 68
                ˚Θεὸν 72
                ˚Θεὸς 239
                ˚Θεῷ 158
                ˚Κυρίου 231
                ˚Κυρίῳ 95
                ˚Κύριε 89
                ˚Κύριον 63
                ˚Κύριος 139
                ˚Κύριόν 1
                ˚Κύριός 10
                ˚Πνεύματι 59
                ˚Πνεύματος 79
                ˚Πνεύματός 5
                ˚Πνεῦμά 7
                ˚Πνεῦμα 99
                ˚Χριστέ 1
                ˚Χριστοῦ 252
                ˚Χριστόν 18
                ˚Χριστός 41
                ˚Χριστὸν 48
                ˚Χριστὸς 71
                ˚Χριστῷ 104
                ˚θεὸς 1
                ˚Ἰησοῦ 329
                ˚Ἰησοῦν 126
                ˚Ἰησοῦς 456


            NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of
            */nomina sacra/*, then it ought to be described in the
            conf file!
            Best regards,

            David

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            On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio
            amadio.pie...@gmail.com wrote:

                Hi there.

                As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a
                circular mark
                such as Ring Above (U+02DA).
                Looking at the source text, they seem to always
                appears next to words such as
                
https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt
                ˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ,
                ˚Πνεύματος
                ˚Κυρίου

                Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra in
                manuscripts ?
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra

                On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán
                kov...@gmail.com wrote:

                    Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to
                    you.
                    Best, Zoltan

                    David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com ezt írta
                    (időpont: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 13:33):

                        Arising from the grapheme count, I have a
                        further technical query.

                        There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE.

                        I am wondering whether these would be better
                        being all replaced by U+030A COMBINING RING
                        ABOVE, and if so, whether the mark should
                        follow the Greek letter rather than precede it.

                        NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents
                        rules is fairly limited.

                        Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for
                        viewing a Greek NT text?
                        Might it be sensible to include such an
                        element in the .conf file?

                        Best regards,

                        David

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                        On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM,
                        David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com wrote:

                        Hi Kovács,

                        Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a
                        grapheme count on the full Greek text with
                        accents.
                        i.e. After first stripping out the references
                        from the diatheke output. See inside attached
                        7-Zip file.

                        There are two left/right count mismatches that
                        ought to be looked at.

                        2018 ‘ 483
                        2019 ’ 484
                        201C “ 1,904
                        201D ” 1,907

                        cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK.

                        0028 ( 62
                        0029 ) 62

                        Best regards,

                        David

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                        On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM,
                        David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com wrote:

                        This module has the wrong Versification.

                        It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply
                        the wrong choice!

                        Please fix this ASAP.

                        Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script
                        that led to this mistake!

                        Best regards,

                        David

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                        On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM,
                        dom...@crosswire.org dom...@crosswire.org wrote:

                        This is to announce that we have just now
                        uploaded StatResGNT
                        in the CrossWire beta repository for testing
                        purposes.

                        If no raised concern nor a quality alert has
                        been sent on the list,
                        StatResGNT will be published in a week.

                        This is an update.
                        Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453)
                        Version=1.3
                        History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest
                        release (last database change: 2024-07-16)
                        
TextSource=https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt
                        Versification=LXX

                        Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work.

                        yours

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