Yeah, we have had this same conversation on another list a week ago. We are
saying by DEFAULT and ISP should block the ports, BUT it should be removed
if asked, and FREE of charge. I'm sure the percentage of users who would
request it would be like 5%. THen it would be easy to monitor traffic (not
data) of those 5%. 

ISPs used to complain about the costs of hardware vs. traffic. I'd say this
would help them in the long run. DON't raise my broadband bill, decrease the
spam traffic on your net! 

--Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:58 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.
> 
> 
> Not to flame anyone, but I sure do hope my isp never blocks ports. I
> don't pay for obstructed internet access.  I do run a small 
> mail server
> from my home dsl connection.  I allow family members to use 
> that to send
> to/from.  The local cable provider here (Brighthouse) just 
> about blocks
> all inbound ports.  This is fine for the normal internet user, but for
> those of us who know what we are doing this hurts us.  If my 
> isp were to
> block ports, that would hinder on what I am doing.  I don't have a
> professional dsl line (3x as much as residential) and in 
> order for me to
> get a professional line, I would need to buy a professional phone
> service from the phone co (again, 3x the price).  A whole lot 
> of bloat I
> don't need nor want.  My modem has a very good firewall built in and
> uses nat.  This is the normal, default setup.  The isp doesn't provide
> any solutions in overriding it, but is allowed.  I use an internal
> router with nat instead of the modem's built in.  I think 
> this is a much
> better way of blocking ports than isp's blocking ports.  If 
> isp's set up
> this feature properly, then allow us advanced users to "unlock" so to
> speak, this is more desirable IMHO. This technology obviously 
> exists and
> I think is a much better option.
> 
> Thanks, 
> James 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Pierre Thomson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:13 AM
> To: Chris Santerre
> Cc: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.
> 
> It's not strictly a spam measurement, but www.senderbase.org has
> excellent real-time lists of outbound mail volume by ISP and 
> IP address.
> 
> Pierre
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:08 AM
> To: 'Fred'; AltGrendel; Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.
> 
> ...
> I'm trying to find some stats on spam origins. Particularly by ISP. I
> see
> very little spam coming from cox.net cable modems vs. a buttload from
> Comcast. Would be nice to know the biggest ones and start a 
> movement one
> at
> a time to get this problem fixed. If I've learned anything from this
> list,
> its a group has a far better chance of getting things done then 1
> person. 
> 
> Consider me with you Fred.
> 
> --Chris 
> 
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