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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Santerre
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:27 AM
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> Subject: RE: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.
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> Yeah, we have had this same conversation on another list a week ago. We
are
> saying by DEFAULT and ISP should block the ports, BUT it should be removed
> if asked, and FREE of charge. I'm sure the percentage of users who would
> request it would be like 5%. THen it would be easy to monitor traffic (not
> data) of those 5%.
> 
> ISPs used to complain about the costs of hardware vs. traffic. I'd say
this
> would help them in the long run. DON't raise my broadband bill, decrease
the
> spam traffic on your net!

I would certainly vote for this - if there was a vote.  Spam certainly costs
money to the recipients and the infrastructure that supports the recipients.
We have not even discussed the benefit of minimizing the damage caused by
viruses.  Unfortunately, that is not a cost that an ISP believes it should
share.  I really don't think lawsuits would help.

Could you imagine the argument?  Your honor, we are suing the ISP because
the Internet is not a friendly place and they are not keeping us safe.
Their response:  Your honor, we just build the roads.

Don't get me wrong because I would love to see this also.  But has anyone
actually performed a study to compare the costs of installing, configuring,
and maintaining firewalls/port blocking versus the cost savings of
bolstering Email services?  I can't guess but I don't believe it is trivial
nor in the best financial interest of the ISP.  I would believe that the
cost would far outweigh any savings.

An overwhelming majority of their customers don't even understand this
discussion and their competition is not doing it so they have no competitive
advantage either.  The fact is the ISP most certainly WILL raise their price
if they implement firewalls.  What customer base wants that?  Hell, I have
talked to a lot of people about implementing a LinkSYS firewall in front of
their home computer.  The response is always the same - 2 questions and a
response.  1) How much is it?  2) Who will install it for me? 3) You know, I
don't have anything important on that machine anyway.  Do you think that
type of customer base gives a rip to force the hand of any ISP?

--Larry



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