Hi, On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:17:42 +0100 "Darren Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chr. von Stuckrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 29 June 2003 11:37 > > To: SpamAssassin-talk > > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] "Naughty" test names > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 04:29:37PM -0600, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > > > That's exactly what I was concerned about, Tony: Where does > > it stop? > > > > The real poblem will be: 'it never stops'. As long as people do > > react irrationally on rational Questions and as long as the > > 'what I avoid to see can't anger me' attitude will exists. > > (So I do NOT believe in the necessary changes of rationallity > > any more). > > > > But because spamassassin is a very useful tool, and because > > exactly those 'mentioned above' would be angered a lot more > > without it, please leave them a chance to keep their attitude > > and create that 'political correctness (pre/post?)procesing' > > Option to make all the *different* correctness(es?) possible. > > > > It will make spamassassin useable in more places and that's > > most important here. > > > > Stucki (just another spam-assassinating postmaster) > Agreed. > > At the end of the day, as others have mentioned, these people should be > given the choice - they either put up with a word "PENIS" which is > neither a swear word or a vulgarity (how can anyone be offended by it is > beyond me) or they don't get their email filtered by SpamAssassin - > simple. I'm sure after receiving HTML emails with fellatio images day > in day out they'll get some perspective. I'm not sure you're agreeing with what you think you're agreeing. While I'm not often in favor of catering to the (to me) too-easily-offended crowd, you have to ask what the mission of SpamAssassin is. If the goal is to get people to lighten up, break out of their cloistered mindset, become more tolerant and accepting of the unpleasantness of the reality around them, then leave things the way they are, though I seriously doubt you'll succeed in changing anyone's viewpoint. However, if we want to maximize the deployment (deployability?) of SpamAssassin then maybe we should consider (eventually) allowing admins to sanitize rule names, especially if rule names that make the Vice-Principal's/CEO's secretary blush are preventing significant deployment of SpamAssassin. IIRC, rule names are arbitrary[1] and apparently a global search-and-replace fixes this problem for those sites that see it as a problem. It should be easy but tedious to (eventually) change the code to use optional less vivid rule names. Probably better to build a script that automates the search-and-replace, test it as part of release, and toss it in /contrib. A further stopgap - build a sanitized translation file (/usr/share/spamassassin/30_text_??.cf) and mangle the report to show the user only the sanitized rule descriptions, not the rule names. As much as I'd rather not divert any development time from making SA more effective in detecting spam, I'd rather that twitchy organizations used SpamAssassin rather than a proprietary filtering solution, not because proprietary solutions are inherently bad, but because proprietary filters tend to come with a hidden agenda (web filters, anyways.) If a couple arbitrary rule names are tipping the scales toward the email filtering equivalent of CyberSitter, SurfWatch, or NetNanny I believe there's a problem we should address. Insulting admins because we think little of the their users is counterproductive; chances are, they probably don't need a reminder of how unreasonable their user base is. Still, it's the population they're paid to serve and protect, so why not put the insults on hold if you can't find some positive contribution to make? -- Bob [1] For end users. They're probably important for tracking the effectiveness of various rules. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100006ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
