[web2py:11849] Re: web2py foundation

2008-11-14 Thread Yarko T
Plone.com is owned by Steve Plone of California --- I'll bet he actually had the "name" first ;-) (BTW, it's an interetsting site) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Massimo, > > You may need to do something like the plone people did: > > http://plone.org/f

[web2py:11844] Re: pyworks2008 talk slides

2008-11-14 Thread Yarko T
ttend the presentation. To his credit he named a lot of issues he had > > > with wsgi middleware used in tg2 which he had to fix himself. > > > Ironically this made my point for having a home-grown project that is > > > not based on the same middleware. ;-) > > > > &

[web2py:11841] Re: web2py.net?

2008-11-14 Thread Yarko T
Are there other options for people who grabbed web2py.org and .net? Could you not use web2pysolutions or web2pydesigners or web2pyhosting you get the idea... I am concerned of the confusion this could cause in the longer run. Would people have any problem finding other names, and transferr

[web2py:11816] Re: pyworks2008 talk slides

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
Note - if you log in (or create an account on Google- just use an existing email address) you can download in other formats, make a copy, accept online questions, and see presenter's notes. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:43 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Massimo asked

[web2py:11815] Re: pyworks2008 talk slides

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
Massimo asked me to post his PyWorks slides on Google Docs. You can use this presentation as a basis for your local talks. You can present from here: http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dcv3z6cp_153cc7wcfg9 You can also present embedded such: Regards, Yarko --~--~-~--~~-

[web2py:11814] Re: pyworks2008 talk slides

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
Pyworks Presentation: You can also present it from here: http://docs.google.com/Presentation?id=dcv3z6cp_153cc7wcfg9 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this gro

[web2py:11789] Re: Upload Files , Multipart form data

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
Phyo is trying to build a bot! ;-) On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Phyo Arkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Dear Ceej > > I would like to upload to a form , from a python script. (Client side) > > Web2py do no thave upload (as client) rite? > > Thanks for reply anyways. > > Regards, > > Phyo. > >

[web2py:11788] Re: Newbie Insert

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
checking here (there are probably other summary tables like this): http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/sql-keywords-appendix.html#KEYWORDS-TABLE I see that "address" is ok (not reserved SQL); Does your table db.people have a field "address"? (check the spelling) Regards, Yarko On

[web2py:11787] Re: Newbie Insert

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
hehehe Massimo had it almost right too ;-) But either way, trying out a couple of lines yourself with: python web2py.py -S my_app -M helps :-) On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My bad. Had a typo: > > def my_insert(**vsql): > db.people.insert(**

[web2py:11785] Re: Patch Proposal - Custom Exception Handling

2008-11-13 Thread Yarko T
"Use the Source, Luke!" --- when in doubt (especially w/ docstrings ;-) On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, the example that Massimo mentioned also includes a description > of how it works. > > -tim > > > mdipierro wrote: > > Not yet since thi

[web2py:11758] Re: Newbie Insert

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
the "**" un-packs a dict which, by looking at gluon/sql.py, looks like what billf expected, You can check if you've got the stars in the right place - try Bill's definition in a test on your app: python web2py.py -S my_app -M and see what happens... you can work it out there... On Wed, No

[web2py:11751] Re: Patch Proposal - Custom Exception Handling

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
...that is to say, it is something that should be capable of being on a different server... On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this: decoupling from web2py is critical if it is to be useful. > Further, it is something that should be thought

[web2py:11750] Re: Patch Proposal - Custom Exception Handling

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
this: decoupling from web2py is critical if it is to be useful. Further, it is something that should be thought of as being decoupled from, on a different server. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark, > > please talk to Tim. We just included (1.48) his

[web2py:11749] Re: Alwaysdata.com, first FREE (10MB) web2py host

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
Great - thanks! On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:40 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > working on it... > > On Nov 12, 10:26 am, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Massimo - > > Do we have / could you start a separate AlterEgo - st

[web2py:11743] Re: Possible bug in IS_URL

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
ell as any branches you are interested in. I should collect this into developer guidelines somewhere - I'll think about starting that this weekend. Regards, Yarko On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for this, Jonathan - > I'm g

[web2py:11742] Re: Alwaysdata.com, first FREE (10MB) web2py host

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
Massimo - Do we have / could you start a separate AlterEgo - style page with _just_ hosting options, with instructions? We have (by my memory): GAE; webfaction; Phylo's announcement this week (don't recall the name - sorry) this (alwaysdata) What others? I think a separate deployment topics FAQ

[web2py:11741] Re: export sql statement and tables'values save as text file

2008-11-12 Thread Yarko T
Has anyone tried this on Appengine? One of the big problems w/ GAE is backing up / transfering your data. Would be interesting to hear experience of transfering data from GAE to other DB. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:10 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from appadmin you can save any ta

[web2py:11714] Re: web2py 1.49.1

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
1.49.1 changeset has been mirrored to http://bitbucket.org/yarko/web2py On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:04 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the latest patches about routes_onerror introduced a nasty > error. If you call a function or controller or app that does not exist > you get a t

[web2py:11702] The Point of Merge Proposals

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
For those who wonder about merging on Launchpad, and how this will / should work, here's an example announcement. WHY? When someone has a change, you can review their changes, and make comments (in the Group is good); When you propose a change, your Whiteboard can introduce the change and motivati

[web2py:11694] Re: Proposal: MVC separation - son of custom views

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
thanks! that works! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:35 PM, aprendiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Hi, > > think it should be > > http://www.wellbehavedsystems.co.uk/web2py/examples/mvc.html > > . > > On 11 nov, 20:58, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PRO

[web2py:11690] Re: Proposal: MVC separation - son of custom views

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
still get "not found" on that something's going on there... On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:56 PM, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oops - thanks Timothy :-) > > Well some can get the page and some can't. Can achipa or Keith or > anyone who gets the problem try storing the source locally (if

[web2py:11685] Re: Possible bug in IS_URL

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
FYI - For those working w/ mercurial: I've mirrored this morning's latest changes from Massimo to http://bitbucket.org/yarko/web2py On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jonathan - > Nice work! > > For everyone (I think this will w

[web2py:11670] Re: also error

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
The gluon libraries (web2py core, so to speak) are in the gluon directory... Applications live in On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Massimo, > > I svn'd the latest and was looking where to copy the html.py to. You > must have it in a lib somewhere, I'm not

[web2py:11669] Re: CSS layout specs

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
Nice! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah for google: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layout_engines_(CSS) > > > > Jonathan Benn wrote: > > On Nov 10, 9:36 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > We should

[web2py:11662] Re: Possible bug in IS_URL

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
Jonathan - Nice work! For everyone (I think this will work easiest - if I'm missing something, let me know): If you know / use mercurial, go ahead and figure out Bitbucket.org. If not, you might as well figure out Launchpad.net and bazaar. Either way, you should have a Launchpad account. When

[web2py:11620] Re: Existing forum app

2008-11-11 Thread Yarko T
No - it looks like Baron is right On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:46 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought this was fixed in the t2.pdf. Are you sure you have the > latest? > > Massimo > > On Nov 11, 12:41 am, Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I noticed the T2 documentation def

[web2py:11614] Re: web2py + wsgi + ssl: admin disabled because unable to access password file

2008-11-10 Thread Yarko T
By design, admin for web2py does not work if it is not localhost Take a look at the FAQ's http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/AlterEgo and search for "admin" That may help. Regards, Yarko On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:44 PM, ionel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I configured web2py with wsgi a

[web2py:11588] Re: web2py 1.48 is OUT

2008-11-10 Thread Yarko T
Ain't it though?! Remeber that anytime you hear anywon grunt about "...I will not break backward compatibility" ;-) On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Daniel Contag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Excellent! > > > Daniel > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 19:31, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[web2py:11568] Re: star-nix

2008-11-10 Thread Yarko T
Who is this? Their site shows no info about them; The star-nix.com registry is protected (private), doesn't return anything except who it's registered through. The domain is new also (July of this year). This doesn't "feel" like a good combination. is there a "good" story behind it? Do you kno

[web2py:11561] Re: T2 with Firebird

2008-11-10 Thread Yarko T
;password',external_name='some_word_firebird_allows') > > 2) if a legacy table has a column called 'field12' that contains a > salary then in db.py we could say > SQLField('salary','integer',external_name='field12') > > external_nam

[web2py:11558] Re: T2 with Firebird

2008-11-10 Thread Yarko T
yes... something about if "foo" is reserved, the form "foo_" is guarenteed to never be a reserved word (something like that). I made to argument that in web2py we should use whatever words we want, with no worries, and KNOW, announce, have the DAL uniformly convert ALL database field names t

[web2py:11535] Re: New to web2py.. Invalid request?

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
:-) On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:48 PM, yarko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're doing localhost, start out easy - web2py comes with it's > own server builtin - cherrypy. > > > All you need to do is install somewhere by itself, and start > web2py.py. > > You should see a browser come up with t

[web2py:11531] Re: using t2.search()

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
single file in the modules directory (or perhaps somewhere else > more correct)? It would be nice if I could have a single file > dependency managed in the same repository I use for my project. > > Thanks, > Brian > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PRO

[web2py:11527] Re: Enhancement Request for Informix and DB2 Support

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
You might want to take a look at gluon/sql.py - If you search for "oracle", that seems to most consistently have special handling - this will give you a hint at what you might need to graft. Mappings in SQL_DIALECTS; connections in SQLDB:__init__(); SQLTable:SQLDB_insert(); SQLSet: SQLDB:_select()

[web2py:11524] Re: Web2py added to GitHub.org

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
... managing MANY contributors On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for releases I wouldn't disagree... > but this is manual, and for managing man contributors, and for applications > depending on plugins this feels wrong. > >

[web2py:11523] Re: Web2py added to GitHub.org

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
g git is to add a > 'tag' for the version and update the README, just like rails does :) > > On Nov 9, 12:12 am, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW - not all of this needs to be displayed - it can be used > > programmatically > &g

[web2py:11509] Re: using t2.search()

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
"download" (upper right of screen) from here: http://www.bitbucket.org/yarko/plugin_t2/ That should also be the name you use to install the plugin - "plugin_t2" On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh! You downloaded the file! >

[web2py:11508] Re: using t2.search()

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
Oh! You downloaded the file! You need to download the package, and install it as applications/plugin_t2 (just copy it). To get the package, use this bazaar command: bzr branch lp:~mdipierro/t2/main I've mirrored t2 separately, so that people can grab a tarball - would you let me know if it work

[web2py:11499] Re: Web2py added to GitHub.org

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
I'd show the web2py stuff. >From applications (in admin too?) I'd show what you can find about the plugin / or app. Sound good? On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure about version bazaar > I'm guessing - like tho

[web2py:11497] Re: Web2py added to GitHub.org

2008-11-09 Thread Yarko T
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:29 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Currently the VERSION file is automatically generated but does not > contain this info because it predates our use of bzr. Moreover VERSION > has to fit in one line in order to be displayed properly in admin.

[web2py:11494] Re: How to include html in a view?

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
Actually it has to do with what the helper function DIV expects / does with it's arguments... *arg expands a list, e.g. [a,b,c] and passes as 3 args; that is, it unpacks the list object; Since python functions can also take keyword arguments (arguments whose position doesn't matter, and which a

[web2py:11490] Re: About patches

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
TECTED]>wrote: > > Hi Yarko, > > > "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, I expect that it is one-way: from Launchpad (where Massimo does > his > > development) to SVN (where he took it from). > > Ok, thanks for that clarificati

[web2py:11488] Re: launchpad branches

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
ow this looks. Robin - Change your "trunk" branch name to something else - "devel" at least. (you do this from the center of that branch's main page - the icon that looks like "!" edits these things - careful! the icon that looks like "-" deletes th

[web2py:11485] Re: Web2py added to GitHub.org

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
I agree, Massimo: You need to define an additional variable besides the release number - call it a revision number or build number if you want: But it should include the complete identifying info; check out the % bzr testament --strict command, and think about how to automatically enter this o

[web2py:11484] Re: Web2py added to GitHub.org

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
ceej Dude! Create a login on Launchpad.org (don't be afraid - you don't need to put anything up there!) then go to https://code.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/web2py/devel and https://code.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/t2/main and "subscribe" Be sure to select something with "revision notificatio

[web2py:11482] Re: How to include html in a view?

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
No need to apologize ever! We all learn by asking - there's enough to know that everyone is "ignorant" about _something_ ;-) After all, that's what friends are for! On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Many thanks. As you can see I'm still missing some Python b

[web2py:11481] Re: About patches

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
Also, I expect that it is one-way: from Launchpad (where Massimo does his development) to SVN (where he took it from). On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Jonathan Benn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Hi Yarko, > > > On Nov 6, 9:32 pm, yarko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > web2py is mirrored to Goog

[web2py:11480] Re: About patches

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
Massimo will have to answer that... I expect (because of the nature of SVN) that Massimo does not give / have "write" permission to others on SVN; With and DVCS (bazaar, mercurial, git, ...) there is no worry - you make your own "branch" which is in reality your own private repository, and ask t

[web2py:11477] Re: change field text on web page and position (left, center, right)

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
SQLFORM(db.my_table, fields=['name', 'address', 'phone'], lablels=['Your Full Name', 'Street Address', 'Phone (with area code)']) See gluon.sqlhtml.SQLFORM at http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/static/epydoc/index.html On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED

[web2py:11476] Re: How to have a global layout.html

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
ugh! I think we need to start thinking about some "sitewide" location for views / plugins / standard statics... and a gluon-managed variable for locating it's head. This would allow (among other things) a way for an application to specify / modify that "master" place - it would not be my prefer

[web2py:11444] Re: Who posted web2py on github?

2008-11-08 Thread Yarko T
Nov 7, 3:59 pm, ceej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > We should also start another topic maybe to see if T2 should be > >> > > > added > >> > > > as it's really easy to create a branch for a certain feature and > >> >

[web2py:11441] Re: San Francisco Python Meetup

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
This general topic might be good to seed with a base slideset that others can use. Open shared on Google Docs perhaps (nice, since you can present from there) On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:15 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am in Chicago and it is unlikely I will be there soon bu

[web2py:11420] Re: web2py in Taskbar (System Tray) - now without wx bloat

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
Restarting the sever re-initializes gluon; Your modules are read / re-evaluated (as you say) when you run them - so that happens "all the time" in the start / stop edit / start parts of developing on web2py. Your served homepage is init (if it's there) or welcome (the template for starting

[web2py:11410] Re: DAL has having

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
explain more. I see having.itemtype.count() > 1 returns the LAST items of type 'blog' and 'dig' (item 'link' has only one, so doesn't meet the 'having' criteria). But why does it only return one of these items (and not all)? On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:35 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[web2py:11399] Re: Who posted web2py on github?

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
Not to worry - nothing there yet... it has links to www.web2py.com, attributes Masssimo and was created by user (!) "web2py" On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? If someone wants to fork web2py, it's OSS and freely available. Let > them fork. > >

[web2py:11353] Re: Re : [web2py:11346] Re: creating missing directories in apps

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
ulprit, what about creating the empty dirs ? > Sorry to insist :) > > On 7 nov, 12:01, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you have an incomplete download... if you are using a browser to > get > > the tar file, suspect your browser - try w

[web2py:11349] Re: Re : [web2py:11346] Re: creating missing directories in apps

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
de : *Ven 7.11.08, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* a écrit : > > next is the browser to look at: was the tar file 389,120 bytes?I see all > the folders you mention in my copy... > > No, it's 378880 bytes. > I knew the issue was rather on my side. Now I'm sure. > But t

[web2py:11346] Re: creating missing directories in apps

2008-11-07 Thread Yarko T
next is the browser to look at: was the tar file 389,120 bytes? I see all the folders you mention in my copy... On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Grahack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, it's because empty dirs are not deflated correctly. Am I alone to > see this? > Some other software deal with

[web2py:11341] Re: T2, Web2py Core? Specs finalized?

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
I have no Drupal experience per se; concise point(s) about what stands out, is good would be useful... there a lots of good ideas about! On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:53 PM, voltron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Apples to oranges? Its the same thing IMHO. Besides I think its harder > to sell a "sh

[web2py:11340] Re: Existing forum app

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
Yes, Massimo wrote T2, and knows it, and is productive --- BUT --- the real point is ANYONE should be able to be this productive (well, anyone w/ some basic knowledge of databases, and HTML and Python ... and jQuery/Javascript ) If Massimo does in 20 minutes, and someone else needs to look in the

[web2py:11317] Re: T2, Web2py Core? Specs finalized?

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
And finally, when we work out the mechanics for having different versions of "the same plugin" co-existing, all this concern about "is it ready? is it ready?" will become largely irrelevant, or at least stop focusing on "no more changes" and focus instead on "stable functionality"... Then you can b

[web2py:11316] Re: we have more friends

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
Interesting but the strength of the words trouble me a bit... (has politics now dirtied open source efforts?). We learn from all frameworks, and every evolution / change (I'm thinking of DVCS) brings surprise and change... We can only see how well we hold up to some unknown context when we

[web2py:11302] Re: T2, Web2py Core? Specs finalized?

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
Co-incidentally, I was just reviewing the forum code, and thinking about how I would describe what it does for you structurally... In my mind T2 is just that - a tier (not a specific solution). It is an experiment in (perhaps) a DSL - in the experriment, that is web2py and bringing the concepts to

[web2py:11274] Re: About patches

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
but bazaar / launchpad is what we have decided, and have now... On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well - bazaar is pure python; mercurial is python and C (requires > compilation). It is faster... I did just spend the past hour trying to > fi

[web2py:11273] Re: About patches

2008-11-06 Thread Yarko T
o far found easier to post branches to and request merges from (just did). On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Jonathan Benn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On Nov 5, 12:45 am, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Should I just try a mercurial site, and see if th

[web2py:11269] Re: Contributing: Branches on Launchpad

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
and I don't see a branch named ~mdpeirro/web2py/main --- but I _do_ see one called ~mdpierro/web2py/devel strange indeed... Sphinx project this week moved off of SVN to Mercurial, hosting at http://www.bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/ Ultimately, it would be nice to have a web2py hosted merc

[web2py:11255] Re: Contributing: Branches on Launchpad

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
are you talking command line client? It works well enough; some prefer mercurial (that's what Sphinx documentation project just moved to from SVN)... The whole concept of a distributed system (as opposed to SVN) will allow more people to contribute more readily so it's worth these early grow

[web2py:11245] Re: Existing forum app

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
HI Richard - I wasn't suggesting _doing_ stuff in Django - I was suggesting looking at the code - the data structures should be easy to port, and maybe even some of the logic that has to do with the data... Porting is always interesting. And looking at what others do for end results can be a goo

[web2py:11235] Re: web2py -> irc

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
or linux / unix , irssi is the coolest > for windows mIRC is ok. > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks for this, Wes - >> I never looked into web based IRC - mibbit seems pretty good; >> I checked out http://www.web

[web2py:11233] Re: web2py -> irc

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
Thanks for this, Wes - I never looked into web based IRC - mibbit seems pretty good; I checked out http://www.web-irc.org/ too, but I like that mibbit puts something in the tab when people said stuff Cool! Yarko On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If yo

[web2py:11228] Re: t2

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
Massimo has an evolving document on http://launchpad.net/t2 You can grab a copy of the current PDF file from the source / doc area current version today is here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mdipierro/t2/main/files/44?file_id=docs-20080922043548-uj1qtzubnbxj3dm6-8 download button is on right

[web2py:11224] Re: Some code in Appliance "GeoIP" gives a bad example

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
Good catch! Unless you're doing this for simple local testing, this doesn't look like safe practice... On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Stefan Scholl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Hi! > > In controller file default.py: > >data = ZipFile(StringIO(urlopen("http://www.maxmind.com/download/ >

[web2py:11223] Re: Possible bug in IS_URL

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
The regular expression for URI in Appendix B, p.28 of http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt(or http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2396.html) might be helpful... On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Jonathan Benn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > On Nov 5, 3:12 pm, achipa <[E

[web2py:11183] Re: Existing forum app

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
these forums might be interesting too: http://www.dotnetnuke.com/tabid/795/Default.aspx (I can see my dotNET days are showing but features are features - at least I didn't point you at too many PHP based forums ;-) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[web2py:11182] Re: Existing forum app

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
Forum apps are generally not too difficult, but will take some coding... and the better you want them behaving (e.g. privileged groups) the more work you have. You could look at Sphene Community Tools (written for Django) and see if it will help you get started (or worth porting) --- http://sct.sp

[web2py:11179] Re: Contributing: Branches on Launchpad

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
You might find this generally useful - it's a wiki set of instructions to go along w/ the video link I posted before. http://wiki.showmedo.com/index.php/Using_Launchpad_and_Bazaar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

[web2py:11176] Re: Contributing: Branches on Launchpad

2008-11-05 Thread Yarko T
Pushing to Launchpad w/ Windows PC & bzr: 1. you need to create a public ssh key on launchpad; get putty from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ (zip file will do); 2. Unzip files from putty - you'll use 2 - puttygen.exe and pageant.exe 3. run puttygen 1. click

[web2py:11171] Contributing: Branches on Launchpad

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
I posted this earlier, and Tim pointed out trouble with PC bazaar I've revised my guide (and worked out PC end of things): This assumes informally you have created a local branch on your private machine where you do work, and keep it merged with the trunk (currently, there is only Massimo's dev

[web2py:11169] Re: Re : [web2py:11116] Re: irc channel for web2py?

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
Yes - but IRC serves different function - online live discussion help "hey, could you see if you get the same trouble with this code as I am? THanks!" I think an IRC could be a useful way (also) to have a meeting to discuss the next T2 plugin / project, and agree on starting definitions, and

[web2py:11154] Re: Getting a Warning straight out of the box for web2py + GAE

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
LOL On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:46 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should copyright "easy as py". > > Massimo > > On Nov 4, 4:36 pm, "Wes James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:30 PM, James Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > This means you don't ha

[web2py:11142] Re: About patches

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
Tim - ugh! I should have tried this first... I've gotten the key generated, see the problem w/ the ssh key generated on PCs, and am having a *dilly* of a time trying to get something pushed up from behind a firewall. Should I just try a mercurial site, and see if that would work better? :-) I'll

[web2py:11128] Re: Re : [web2py:11116] Re: irc channel for web2py?

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
we do not have one our own we will need to leave a bot which can >> > > connect at the IRC 24/7 and logs all conversation and put those logs , >> serve >> > > it on the web server. >> > >> > > > popular bots are eggdrop bot script with many funct

[web2py:11113] Re: irc channel for web2py?

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
if the frameworks right for them. >>> #django has over 560+ people in the room right now, #python has over >>> 600+ etc I try to be on IRC everyday :) >>> >>> On Nov 4, 8:14 am, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > it n

[web2py:11097] Re: irc channel for web2py?

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
making group chats.? > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Yarko T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've spent days where it was only the 2-3 other users, so I've stopped >> "lurking" there... >> I would say the group is the main channel for now..

[web2py:11092] Re: irc channel for web2py?

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
I've spent days where it was only the 2-3 other users, so I've stopped "lurking" there... I would say the group is the main channel for now... On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I connected to irc.freenode.net and joined #web2py there were only 2-3 > other us

[web2py:11088] Re: server startup invalid url

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
I do not see this w/ Firefox 3* and Fedora-9 What Fedora / Firefox? Can you debug, step through to see what is going on? On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:11 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is a fedora bug or firefox bug. > > On Nov 4, 8:34 am, airdrummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[web2py:11083] Re: About patches

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
; On 4 nov, 14:26, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >- If you have a new feature, register a blueprint on Launchpad and > >describe what you're going to do. > >- If you have found a bug, make a bug report on Launchpad. > >

[web2py:11079] Re: ipython funk

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
right models... (not modules) that was a typo on my part On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:38 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes, as Yarko suggest you cannot import models, they are not modules. > The -M option will do it for you. > > % python web2py.py -S web2mon -M > > > On Nov 4

[web2py:11065] Re: About patches

2008-11-04 Thread Yarko T
This assumes informally you have created a local branch on your private machine where you do work, and keep it merged with the trunk (currently, there is only Massimo's development branches; we will create a trunk to hold released merges - including Massimo's work). When you have a new function id

[web2py:11037] Re: build osx web2py

2008-11-03 Thread Yarko T
Wes - When you "make app" you are creating an executable OS/X application from your environment that you will distribute to others. If this is what you are trying to do, then you are heading in the right direction - and you will need to resolve how to configure and build this from your box. If yo

[web2py:10971] Re: jQuery

2008-11-02 Thread Yarko T
I wasn't able to get to it from Steve's link, but this worked: http://www.west-wind.com/presentations/jQuery/ On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Steve Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh I thought I would drop this onto this thread. > I found an EXCELLENT article on jQuery by Rick Strahl. Rick

[web2py:10960] Re: if..elif..else in a view

2008-11-02 Thread Yarko T
I've suggested this before: During development (when you are changing perhaps often) It is harmless to ALWAYS add a pass: after an indented structure... When you are done, you can return to remove the unnecessary {{pass}}'s This way - as you are adding / deleting / moving things around, you w

[web2py:10959] Re: How to extend a model

2008-11-02 Thread Yarko T
Oscar - Are you asking why "booelan" is an unknown type? *grin* Kind regards, Yarko On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Oscar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have define my table as: > > db.define_table('t2_person', >db.Field('name'), >db.Field('email'), > db.Field('nickn

[web2py:10958] Re: Problems attaching to either remote or localhost PostgreSql

2008-11-02 Thread Yarko T
I've used postgresql on PC (more than a little), but not with 10,000 record tables I'll have to check when I get home tonigt... Yarko On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am puzzled because I have never seen this. > > Has anybody else experienced this pr

[web2py:10922] Re: Error in 'admin' application

2008-11-01 Thread Yarko T
I've been running from (it turns out) SVN - I'll have to do a compare, because if it's not updated, it's because of the source control / merges... Perhaps it's time for me to do a "fresh" checkout of web2py? On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:25 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you an

[web2py:10904] Re: Integration with Appcelerator

2008-10-31 Thread Yarko T
a basic grasp of > the technology (not talking about web2py or sql level) how will he > know which solution providers he needs to turn to in the first place - > so he's not asking for apples in the bakery mentioned above ? We can > rename the topic to IT / B2B management now :) >

[web2py:10887] Re: Integration with Appcelerator

2008-10-31 Thread Yarko T
y been technologically surpassed or there is an acceptable > solution available from third parties). But we digress, this is > generic software development talk, and has less to do with > appcelerator and web2py. > > On Oct 31, 4:46 pm, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

[web2py:10879] Re: Error in 'admin' application

2008-10-31 Thread Yarko T
please note: If you download web2py in a zip or binary version on PC, I have been finding random errors in Firefox and Chrome browsers - partial downloads which "appear" to be complete (unfortunately this is NOT limited to web2py). It is somewhat rare, but seems to be completely repeatable for a

[web2py:10878] Re: Integration with Appcelerator

2008-10-31 Thread Yarko T
Defining the problem is part of the task; prototyping can help clarify / validate; the preliminary part I don't think requires client knowledge of technology, nor consultant/company knowledge of client problem - it is a discovery phase, which is equally important when you _think_ you have a gras

[web2py:10859] Re: Import db model from existing database

2008-10-30 Thread Yarko T
if your db doesn't have "id" fields, or primary keys with different names, then you might consider setting up a view to map into the expected id fields... As for setting up the tables: NOTE: You do NOT need to have the tables defined in web2py - only the interface to those tables / columns you ne

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