Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Pratik Paranjape
+1 Upayavira and Bruno. Well said! On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) < sten...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Upayavira wrote: > > > Creating new mailing lists divides communities and should therefore be > > done with caution. > > > > This commun

Re: Invitation to On-Air Hangout

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Yes, it was great to see there a so many passionated people on Wave. Last month I really thought Wave would move to attic. But with the things happening the past two weeks I thinkg there is a chance. Please keep on working like that. Buzz of that kind will finally attract developers too. Cheers Ch

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Fleeky Flanco
one thing that would be pretty sweet would be if you could subscribe to mailing lists but from your wave server, extra points if the way you do it is federating to the wiab.net server and subscribing to its email wave :) On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Pratik Paranjape wrote: > +1 Upayavira and

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Upayavira
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013, at 08:52 AM, Fleeky Flanco wrote: > one thing that would be pretty sweet would be if you could subscribe to > mailing lists but from your wave server, extra points if the way you do > it > is federating to the wiab.net server and subscribing to its email wave :) Get coding!

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Paulo Pires
I agree! Cheers, PP On Jun 5, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Following on from the talk, if we intend to develop Apache Wave as an > end-product focused project, we should probably migrate talks of > 'visions' and 'community' to a separate mailing list from to allow > wave-dev to be kept a

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
I do this on my *nix machine before posting. I strongly encourage others to also try running it... Ali On 6 Jun 2013 02:57, "Michael MacFadden" wrote: > As a sanity check has any one grabbed the release and tried to run the > server? I can give it a try on OSX? > > On 6/5/13 6:14 PM, "Joseph G

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
Furthermore, when the time comes Apache foundation can provide us with a server to run this email-wave bridge. But to run a bridge, the bridge needs to exist first :-) On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Upayavira wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013, at 08:52 AM, Fleeky Flanco wrote: > > one thing th

Review Request: Add prosody config generator

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11669/ --- Review request for wave. Description --- Adds a new ant target, that gener

Re: Federating with self-signed certificates

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
I have cleaned up the wiki a bit, converted old wiki tags to the new wiki format, etc. Also, I've implemented a new ant target that automatically generates the Prosody configuration file necessary for federation. This is my first time using Review Board, so please guide me if I did anything incorr

Re: Review Request: Add prosody config generator

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11669/#review21512 --- Thanks for this. Can I request that we do include s2s_ports, and co

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I have a problem with the SHA1 files, not sure if it is my fault. $ openssl sha1 /release-checking/apache-wave-bin-0.4-incubating.zip SHA1(/Users/cy/Documents/release-checking/apache-wave-bin-0.4-incubating.zip)= dc3970d589b4db222b2672bae6a3bff4830b07e3 $ cat /release-checking/apache-wave-bin-0.4

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
That would be because it is a SHA512 as was recommended for newer releases in one of the many documents. This would be noted on the download page where links to signatures are made, so shouldn't be a problem. Ali On 6 June 2013 11:02, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > I have a problem with the SHA1

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
The exact command was: 'gpg --print-md SHA512 $f > $f.sha' On 6 June 2013 11:05, Ali Lown wrote: > That would be because it is a SHA512 as was recommended for newer > releases in one of the many documents. > > This would be noted on the download page where links to signatures are > made, so shoul

Re: Review Request: Add prosody config generator

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez
> On June 6, 2013, 9:58 a.m., Ali Lown wrote: > > Thanks for this. > > > > Can I request that we do include s2s_ports, and component_ports in the > > generated configuration set to their default values. > > This is to make it explicit the relation between this, the component port > > setting i

Re: Review Request: Add prosody config generator

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
> On June 6, 2013, 9:58 a.m., Ali Lown wrote: > > Thanks for this. > > > > Can I request that we do include s2s_ports, and component_ports in the > > generated configuration set to their default values. > > This is to make it explicit the relation between this, the component port > > setting i

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Great, thanks for your help. All is well now. For all others who want to quickly check signatures and sha, here is a little script. I included MD5 checking as well, maybe its of use later (md5 is pretty common at the asf too). Please note, KEYS must be imported to succeed this. Also download locati

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 (IPMC) I didn't find anything else so far which is problematic. My guess is, other IPMC members will find something (first releases are worst) I checked on licenses, signatures, sha and looked around. I didn't do technical checks, like running the server or so. My take on pre 1.0 version is, t

Re: Review Request: Add prosody config generator

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11669/ --- (Updated June 6, 2013, 10:46 a.m.) Review request for wave. Changes ---

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
Good points all. I am content to continue the Wave:Forward level of discussion in this venue, as long as we're focusing on the re-architecture of the Wave platform it's very much a development focus. Perhaps another list will make sense when there's more of a product management focus for Wave - but

Review Request: Fix check-certificates script

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11675/ --- Review request for wave. Description --- Fix the check-certificates.sh scr

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Paulo Pires
Please, separate things! Political & management stuff one way, development/user support another. It's really painful to get dozens of e-mails just because of logo stuff and such, no matter how important the subject is. And yes, I can use filters, but still they're not perfect and are PITA to mai

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Upayavira
Paulo, I'm not saying we won't separate, I'm just saying I want us to wait a bit. I'm asking you to sit with the pain for a bit longer, so we can allow what the other, non-coding discussions are really about to emerge, and for others to show up and start engaging with the coding part of this proje

Docs organization

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
Hi all, I see that there's bits of documentation here and there, sometimes it's duplicated in several places: - Source code (README file, server-config.xml description tags, comments inside sh scripts...) - Confluence wiki at apache - WaveProtocol.org site (not sure if I missed any place else?)

Re: Docs organization

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
Bruno, Sorting out the documentation is a great way you can help. Angus has been helping migrate + update the information from the waveprotocol site over the last few months. We have been putting all new documentation in the wiki here, since it is the easiest place for it to all be found and edit

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread John Blossom
Upayavira, Thanks, those are my thoughts exactly. I will not inundate this community unnecessarily with communications, but I agree that focusing on having a community that's vibrant and engaged is a key function of this list. If we get more developers excited and engaged then that's a good thing -

Re: Docs organization

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Angus has been helping migrate + update the information from the > waveprotocol site over the last few months. > Is the plan to migrate everything from waveprotocol site to the apache wiki, or will some docs remain there? We have been putting a

Review Request: Fix welcome_wave_id warning

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11676/ --- Review request for wave. Description --- The configuration file has an emp

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Fleeky Flanco
also as much as i really really want to do most of this communication on someone (anyone's) wave server has anyone thought of having an official wave irc channel on freenode or something ? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM, John Blossom wrote: > Upayavira, Thanks, those are my thoughts exactly. I

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
Some of us are at #wiab@freenode while we test federation, since it's faster to debug stuff over IM than over emails. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Fleeky Flanco wrote: > also as much as i really really want to do most of this communication on > someone (anyone's) wave server has anyone thoug

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Folks please don't forget one thing: if it doesn't happen on list, it didn't happen. Votes, decision makings in general etc belong to the mailing list. It needs to be documented, there need to be a chance for non-IRCers to intervene. Also it might make sense to discuss debugging things on ml - othe

Gravatar rendering in wave panel

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
There seems to exist a changeset that enables rendering of avatars in the wave panel (top-right side), instead of the current text-only list of participants. Ali mentioned gravatar used to be enabled for participant list, but at some point it got disabled. Since the code is easy to integrate back

Re: Gravatar rendering in wave panel

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
Upon inspection of the codebase history, I wonder if I am now imagining the avatars being disabled, as I don't see a commit which would have done so... Ali On 6 June 2013 20:00, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote: > There seems to exist a changeset that enables rendering of avatars in the > wave

Re: Review Request: Add prosody config generator

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11669/#review21536 --- Ship it! LGTM. - Ali Lown On June 6, 2013, 10:46 a.m., Bruno Gon

Re: Review Request: Fix welcome_wave_id warning

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11676/#review21537 --- Ship it! LGTM. - Ali Lown On June 6, 2013, 4:26 p.m., Bruno Gonz

Re: Review Request: Fix check-certificates script

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://reviews.apache.org/r/11675/#review21538 --- This looks fine. It is probably worth adding a warning/note that th

Problems with BlipSubmitted event

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
So I'm starting to write a basic agent bot in order to see what's possible and what not. I'm able to receive WaveletSelfAdded and DocumentChanged events. I can also append text to the end of a bliip, and create child blips. So the basics seem to be working correctly. However, I'm having trouble w

Re: Problems with BlipSubmitted event

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
Interestingly, this exception is identical to one of the ones federation was having problems with. There it occurs when the in-memory structures for the client simply don't appear to get loaded, despite it having had the required waveletUpdate events that should have handled it. It looks like you

Re: Gravatar rendering in wave panel

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
Shall it be committed to trunk then? On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Upon inspection of the codebase history, I wonder if I am now > imagining the avatars being disabled, as I don't see a commit which > would have done so... > > Ali > > On 6 June 2013 20:00, Bruno Gonzalez (ak

Re: Gravatar rendering in wave panel

2013-06-06 Thread Zachary “Gamer_Z . ” Yaro
Have you looked through past mailing list discussions to see if the change was previously rejected? I feel like I remember something about Gravatar being discussed in the past. —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro On Jun 6, 2013 6:28 PM, "Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)" wrote: > Shall it be committed to trun

Re: Gravatar rendering in wave panel

2013-06-06 Thread Ali Lown
I see no reason not to, but give it more time for others to actually comment. (Looks like we could be making a 0.5 release sooner than expected. ;) ) On 6 June 2013 23:27, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote: > Shall it be committed to trunk then? > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Ali Lown w

Re: Problems with BlipSubmitted event

2013-06-06 Thread Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak)
For the record, I've tried changing the delta persistence from "file" to "memory" to see if anything changes. My tests consist on adding the bot to a wave, editing a blip, adding same-level and nested blips, removing blips, adding and removing a third participant. These are the callbacks I get in b