Re: Should we remove Federation?

2016-04-18 Thread John Blossom
There's no doubt that Wave SHOULD federate efficiently. But there's also no doubt that it doesn't. So, sadly, I have to agree - time to make Apache Wave do what it can do a bit better. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 web: johnblossom.com

Re: [VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-11-03 Thread John Blossom
I vote for release. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Ali Lown wrote: > Hi all, > > RC10 is now available for review. > Artefacts can be found here: > https://people

Re: Design review: A plan

2015-09-09 Thread John Blossom
e point that you're ready to "make a statement" with this project. The world of Wave has not run away in the meantime, so I hope that there is great potential for this to still take off. I agree with your scope of vision - the Web as a whole is stuck, Wave threatened to unstick it,

Re: Wave App mockups

2015-06-21 Thread John Blossom
Fine, just checking. I think that it looks quite impressive. Can't wait to see more. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Zachary Yaro wrote: > I doubt that can be copyrighted. P

Re: Wave App mockups

2015-06-21 Thread John Blossom
This looks very, very nice so far. Are there any copyright issues with the use of the leading alpha for the non-photoed user icons? Google uses that in Gmail... All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4

Re: Coming Months

2015-04-01 Thread John Blossom
Id be glad to listen in, but since I am not a technical contributor, I will try mostly just to monitor. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Evan Hughes wrote: > Hey all, > > could

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread John Blossom
that will support sync/async collaboration and store-forward data models. Would like to see Wave 3.0 ideas considered. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Thomas Wrobel wrote: > On 24 Ma

Re: Apache Wave on Sandstorm.io

2014-08-22 Thread John Blossom
alled-garden instances, which defeats the value of Wave. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > Yeah, I also think the only way we can have a breakthrough is by making it > re

Re: Apache Wave on Sandstorm.io

2014-08-22 Thread John Blossom
@Kenton, I am very excited by this development. If we can get Wave federation working on Sandstorm.io efficiently and simply, I think that this could be a huge breakthrough for Apache Wave - and beyond! J Hi wave-dev, > > I thought you'd be interested to know that we've ported Wave to > Sandstorm.

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-17 Thread John Blossom
Looks like you're making bood progress with ShareJS, Joseph, still some hurdles but the community is making progress. As you point out in the ShareJS literature, more work is needed to get binaries to intersperse messages with text/rich text. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmai

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-09 Thread John Blossom
Thomas, That's the key - if the coding model isn't right, the apps and the data model will never take off. We'll continue to see proprietary dead-end after dead-end. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On W

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-09 Thread John Blossom
eople walk around a field of sensors and combine those messages in a common wave with human communications such as text and voice. Some apps would expose the data, others would deal with just the conversations, and so on. Best, John Blossom On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 11:06 AM, 田传武 wrote: > inli

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-08 Thread John Blossom
This is very cool indeed. It looks as if it might be able to support the Wave 3.0 data model: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pNsrX26947QH89Ot3k62nlKKSRFLmVgBWxcIEne8VYI/edit?usp=sharing All the best, John Blossom On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:07 AM, 田传武 wrote: > Hi all, > > I&

Re: Wave without GWT

2014-06-17 Thread John Blossom
IMO, of course. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Thomas Wrobel wrote: > Well, let me put it like this for my end; > As soon as there is a open API that allows persistent, yet

Re: Wave without GWT

2014-06-12 Thread John Blossom
I have a lot on my plate but I am looking more seriously at crowdfunding for Wave 3.0. The only way that I see Wave taking off is with clearly segregated and secure APIs for mobile apps that interface with apps-independent distributed waves. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com

Re: Wave without GWT

2014-05-02 Thread John Blossom
But is the app "segregated" enough now that you can still get the functionality that one requires for concurrent edits, etc. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Yuri Z wrote:

Re: Sudden traffic on the demo servers

2014-04-08 Thread John Blossom
All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > There's a sudden spike in traffic volume for the waveinabox.net - about > 2500 hits during the last few hours. The traffic com

Re: Sudden traffic on the demo servers

2014-04-08 Thread John Blossom
Interesting. All the best, John Blossom On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > Thanks > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > > > It was on hackernews. > > On 4 Apr 2014 21:36, "Yuri Z" wrote: > > > > > There'

Re: Migrate Apache Wave to java 8?

2014-04-04 Thread John Blossom
Is this an inflection point at which one could consider moving away from Java? For mobile use, it's not ideal. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > Hi > As Java 8

Re: [VOTE] Move Wave to a true 'git' repository at Apache

2013-12-14 Thread John Blossom
Get git. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > As one of the main contention points, lets get Wave moved off the > git-svn life support, and in to a true git repo

Re: [VOTE] To stay or not to stay

2013-12-10 Thread John Blossom
Time to go, we need a new way to turn thoughts into action, knowing that we may yet come back to Apache in a more usable form. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Upayavira wrote: >

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-10 Thread John Blossom
Thanks, Kirill, I look forward to seeing the results! All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Kirill Kostyuchenko wrote: > Hello all, > > We still working hard on wave in our company

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-07 Thread John Blossom
Good points, Bruno, I think that you summed it up very well. I'd only add that in theory the broader Apache community should act as a draw for the project, but the social infrastructure for Apache doesn't seem to amplify that value for Wave. A more flexible approach might help to get a core group o

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-05 Thread John Blossom
ls of permissioning, then you have the opportunity to walk around monitoring issues - sometimes literally. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Thomas Wrobel wrote: > "nsa-resistan

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-05 Thread John Blossom
ve on. If I get involved in this again, my timeline is probably more aggressive, for those who want to seek funding sooner. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > Will

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-04 Thread John Blossom
nications. Nkommo can't really move forward without that combo. As for the name, all things are possible once it's on Github, it seems. A fresh start might be in order. Please keep me in the loop, I'd be glad to help push things in this direction. Without funding, we're n

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-02 Thread John Blossom
clear that Github-centered development may change this significantly, but it may help, and it would certainly simplify branding efforts and possibly fund-raising. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:01

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-02 Thread John Blossom
on. If there are team members who feel that I can contribute positively in this transition, feel free to stay in touch. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi fol

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC4

2013-09-08 Thread John Blossom
the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > The time has finally come, after many weeks of anticipation: RC4 is > now available for review. > > Major changes inclu

Re: Help me test algorithm performance

2013-08-09 Thread John Blossom
Would love to help! All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > tldr; I need some volunteers to collaboratively edit a document > together, so we can systemat

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:04 PM, John Blossom wrote: > > Social Media guidelines are up, I made a few minor tweaks to bring the > > Cloud Stack template up to date. > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.o

Re: Apache Wave Hangout - Link to Episode One

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
Is > there a way to use OTR? > > This stuff is more important than figuring out our mobile strategy for now. > > -J > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:15 AM, John Blossom wrote: > > Thanks to Alex North, Ali Lown, Bruno Gonzalez, Jérémy Naegel, and Joseph > > Gent

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom
Social Media guidelines are up, I made a few minor tweaks to bring the Cloud Stack template up to date. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Apache+Wave+Social+Media+Guidelines On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM, John Blossom wrote: > Ali, > > Great suggestion on guideli

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom
first put together a page of guidelines on the wiki? (Like > CloudStack has: > https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/social-media-guidelines.html) > > Ali > On 31 Jul 2013 19:26, "John Blossom" wrote: > > > In conjunction with the Hangouts, I'd like to suggest t

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom
as admins, I don't think there > should > > be a problem. > > > > Could you first put together a page of guidelines on the wiki? (Like > > CloudStack has: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/social-media-guidelines.html) > > > > Ali > > On 31 Jul 20

Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom
t and links to the official project Web site. Thoughts? It's very easy to set up, BTW. All the best, John Blossom

Apache Wave Hangout - Link to Episode One

2013-07-31 Thread John Blossom
know that a Hangout is the place to solve that, this is probable the best place to start. In the meantime, I will be glad to help create a new "office hours" event on Hangout and have people decide what they want to discuss. Thanks to everyone who participated, the logistics seem to have

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-29 Thread John Blossom
Yes, the community needs to buy in to common communication. That said, everyone's invited to view or participate in Wednesday's Hangout and the results will be posted here, just as with any other interaction in the project. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-29 Thread John Blossom
Michael, will you be able to join us on the Hangout this Wednesday? All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Michael MacFadden < michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks l

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-25 Thread John Blossom
Yes, Joseph, the goal is to use the disciplines of Apache open source development to build a platform that will rock the world. The disciplines are important, but a sustainable, maintainable platform is the real goal that the disciplines facilitate. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-24 Thread John Blossom
Thanks, Michael, Ali, if you could please confirm that you'll be able to attend, that would be great. Any concerns, please don't hesitate to bring them up now, thanks. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom O

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
forward to more visibility and awareness. That will help to attract more developers, projects, etc. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro wrote: > I also supp

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
ching developers and tech product teams. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > Speaking of which, I'd like to start actually using wave in this > community.

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
I am all in for that, Joseph, absolutely. The sooner that we get a project/Apache consensus for "eating our own dogfood," the better. Apache Wave has the potential to become a killer project management tool. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 goog

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
best ways to use a tool like Google Hangouts effectively that fits in with project guidelines. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi folks, > >

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
events comments to clarify the context. I am hoping that this will be sufficient - the listserv itself is not the most effective meeting scheduler. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
el on a more regular basis. I am also totally for more impromptu efforts, but for the sake of the community if we can post our conversations for community-wide access, that can help. Best Regards, John Blossom President Shore Communications Inc. where content, technology and people meet.

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
e to view it via YouTube via a link that I'll post here. I do want to start accelerating communications more in the community, but this is a busy week. Best Regards, John Blossom President Shore Communications Inc. where content, technology and people meet. (Salesmark of Shore Commun

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
1200 ET, btw - bad math. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, John Blossom wrote: > OK, the consensus time/date for the hangout seems to be Wednesday, 31 > July, 1600 UTC (10

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-23 Thread John Blossom
le of invitees. I Have Joseph's ID already and I believe Ali and Michael also, but if you have a doubt, just send it along. If you don't make the hangout itself, I will be sure to share the link here for the common record. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-18 Thread John Blossom
., ET is UTC+4 right now. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > I agree that another hangout sounds fun. > > John, how about setting up a Doodle for us to m

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-17 Thread John Blossom
Great, Michael, find a date that works for you that seems to match with others' interests and I will be glad to arrange for this. We can have the link available but not make public, if that helps to encourage constructive participation. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-16 Thread John Blossom
iting announcements fairly soon. Time to change the world with Wave!!! All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > I've had a busy few weeks - gearing up to launch o

Re: Feedback from Incubator Vote

2013-07-16 Thread John Blossom
Especially in the latter case of developing nations - but also for mobile users in general - enabling offline modes with synchronisation after an indefinite period is a must. John All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-13 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
Soo...how is this initiative going? How may I help to move it forward? Best Regards, John Blossom President Shore Communications Inc. where content, technology and people meet. (Salesmark of Shore Communications Inc.) web: shore.com blog: contentblogger.com email: jblos...@shore.com phone

Re: A New Committer

2013-07-08 Thread John Blossom
Ali, Thanks so much, thoughts below. Best, John On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ali Lown wrote: > Heh. This saves us having to write an [ANNOUNCE] for you... > FIRST! Tee hee. > > > One key thing that I'd like to chip away at is getting our Web presences > > sussed out a bit more. Web sites/ow

A New Committer

2013-07-08 Thread John Blossom
ys glad to communicate in this channel as project protocol requires, as well as other channels which may help to accelerate the efficiency of this channel. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-08 Thread John Blossom
Ingenious, Torben, certainly adds efficiency. John On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Torben Weis wrote: > 2013/6/25 Joseph Gentle > > > > > >> When peers connect, they send each other missing ops. Figuring out > > >> which ops are missing can be surprisingly tricky - but we'll figure > > >> that

Update on Potential Projects for Apache Wave Software

2013-06-28 Thread John Blossom
Hello, As some of you may be aware, one of the platforms from which I am advocating for the renewal of Apache Wave development is to devise communications that will be well-configured for "the next billion people" coming online. The specific project that I am starting to gear up towards this end i

Re: John's Wiki Permissions

2013-06-27 Thread John Blossom
Thank you, Michael, for my new vast, cosmic powers! ;-) On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Michael MacFadden < michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > John, > > I have given you wiki permissions! > > ~Michael > > >

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-27 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
Sounds like we need a Hangout with an online whiteboard or such to work this out...? John On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sam Nelson wrote: > +1 for structured wiki pages. > > I re-read the original email a few times now and I still get a little bit > lost around the bit of ancestor count - com

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-25 Thread John Blossom
Michael, I do have a confluence login on the Apache Wave wiki, thanks for your help All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Michael MacFadden < michael.macfad...@gmail.com>

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-25 Thread John Blossom
Thank you! Glad to have your help. BTW, how does one add oneself to be an editor of the wiki? Anyone? Thanks. John Blossom On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Thanks all! > > I have subscribed myself now > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:45 PM, John

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-25 Thread John Blossom
we're to support history/playback readily, but I suppose that's the fun of the challenge. If we crack with with P2P in tow, then we've really got something. All the best, John Blossom On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Ali L

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Wave Sub Committees

2013-06-24 Thread John Blossom
It's perhaps superficial, but if you call these "working groups" then perhaps that takes away some of the hoop-jumping perception. These are sub-communities which try to attract people who can help to solve specific problems. I like the scheme. On Joseph's point 1a, I think that it would be accept

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-22 Thread John Blossom
y wasn't possible to > >communicate between two browsers without a sever between them. > > > >or does p2p mean something different in this context? > > > >On 22 June 2013 18:53, John Blossom wrote: > >> Michael, > >> > >> I like that way

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-22 Thread John Blossom
a, in order to "open the eyes" of those drawn to this mailing > >list, might it be beneficial to build up a wiki page of accepted use > >cases so that everyone can read them and take them into account when > >considering different ideas? That'd facilitate discussio

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-22 Thread John Blossom
I've appreciated your help and insight, glad to have you aboard. Best, John On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello Wave'rs, > > as you might know, I am Apache Member and involved in various > projects. I also have mentored a bunch of podlings, like for example > Open

Re: Welcome (Back) Joseph Gentle

2013-06-22 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
We're getting ready to rock...J On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro wrote: > Congratulations! > > > —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > > > On 21 June 2013 18:37, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) >wrote: > > > Nice, can't wait to test your P2P experiments :-) > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 21

Re: Demo Server

2013-06-22 Thread John Blossom
Thanks so much, Michael, that's a great help. If we can get some funding for Wave project development perhaps some of the funding can be reserved for open source hosting services on an ongoing basis via a nonprofit entity. All the best, John Blossom On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Mi

Re: A Very Wavey Plan (P2P!)

2013-06-21 Thread John Blossom
Glad to participate as requested, though this is primarily the developers' discussion. John B On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Upayavira wrote: > Perfect. > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 03:57 AM, Michael MacFadden wrote: > > Upayavira, > > > > > > We will put a wiki page together. We will also h

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-21 Thread John Blossom
ncy issues will not be so severe. Things to think about, I will look at this more carefully later today. All the best, John Blossom On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) < sten...@gmail.com> wrote: > Following Joseph's "A Very Wavey Plan (P2P!)" thre

Re: A Very Wavey Plan (P2P!)

2013-06-19 Thread John Blossom
Joseph, This is exactly the sort of transformational architecture that I have been hoping that you and others would pursue. Being fundamentally P2P but readily adaptable for scalable client-server architecture seems to fit today's mobile Web well. The three options that you outline might not wind

Re: wiab server overview diagram

2013-06-18 Thread John Blossom
Thanks for the diagram, Dave, it helps me to visualize Wave's components. How much is the "wave bus" a reality as opposed to a potential division in programming? That is, in terms of how one binds/opens the bus, does it really function as an API. John Blossom On Sun, Jun 16, 2

Re: Wave and OpenOffice

2013-06-17 Thread John Blossom
>>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> @Fleeky, Yuri actually added some > > > > >>>> code< > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > &g

Re: OpenOffice and Wave

2013-06-17 Thread John Blossom
lusive. > Therefore, please use them with restraint, and keep as much discussion, > and all decisions, here on the list. > > Thanks! Upayavira > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, at 01:37 PM, John Blossom - Shore Communications > Inc. wrote: > > In-person would be great. I am NYC/Bo

Re: OpenOffice and Wave

2013-06-17 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
, we just need to get the > >> dialogue.rolling, it seems. We can always have more. Say Weds or > Thursday > >> around 1700 UT+1? Pick a number. John > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> John Blossom > >> > >> email: jblos...@

Re: OpenOffice and Wave

2013-06-16 Thread John Blossom
ick a number. John All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > Sounds interesting. Where is this going to be held? It might be > interesting for a few people o

Re: FW: OpenOffice and Wave

2013-06-16 Thread John Blossom
ve is not necessarily the same in terms of data models. All the best, John Blossom On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Adding Svante Schubert to the thread, from the ODF Toolkit project. > He also chairs the subcommittee at OASIS that has been looking at OT > for change t

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-16 Thread John Blossom
: > > Totally agree with all, we need to get better and do more to just became > > bigger and better. > > > > > > 2013/6/15 John Blossom > > > >> Christian, > >> > >> Thanks for clarifying this. One of the factors which I hope that the

Re: OpenOffice and Wave

2013-06-16 Thread John Blossom
Thanks, Rob, it seems that this opens up interesting doors for down-the-road variants of OpenOffice based on Wave editing models and data models. The challenge and the opportunity is that Wave's OT model acts on the body of a document, so conversations and collaborations can become the body of a mo

Re: Wave and OpenOffice

2013-06-16 Thread John Blossom
o a front facing page to share with people > >>who > >> > didnt feel like registering on my wave server. > >> > > >> > an openoffice for wave would be extremely usefull, and could have an > >> > extremely large impact imo. wave is also already

Re: Wave and OpenOffice

2013-06-15 Thread John Blossom
does this, but i kept > going back to wave because it was actually more responsive, featurefull, > and actually crashed less. > > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:29 AM, John Blossom wrote: > > > I had the down-the-road thought just now that I wanted to put into > >

Wave and OpenOffice

2013-06-15 Thread John Blossom
s, it's a sub-project that may help to attract more developers to Wave technologies. All the best, John Blossom

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-15 Thread John Blossom
Christian, Thanks for clarifying this. One of the factors which I hope that the developers new to Apache consider is that just because one calls their product open source does not mean that you have the resources to manage an open source program in a way that will lead to successful product implem

Re: Adding experiments into the repository

2013-06-14 Thread John Blossom
Sounds like a good idea to have multiple experiments moving forward. Lots of great ideas floating around now that are worth trying out. Fast-fail is the order of the day for the moment, which should allow us to decide things such as what goes on which side of the API, etc. John On Fri, Jun 14, 201

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-14 Thread John Blossom
Christian, You're preaching to the choir. I understand clearly. John On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM, John Blossom wrote: > > Christian, > > > > I leave it up to the developers to make those decisions. W

Re: Future of Apache wave [Was: Re: Advantages of P2P messaging?]

2013-06-14 Thread John Blossom
Michael, Joseph, I am reading this part of the thread with great interest. It sounds as is the OT paradigms that you and Joseph are suggesting might support different types of formats for different messages/blips within a common document/wavelet. That would seem to be an important objective, poten

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-14 Thread John Blossom
own right, having at least a mirror of the code in that environment certainly can't hurt. All the best, John Blossom On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:27 AM, John Blossom wrote: > > Github+Apache+Wave=awesomeness. > > &g

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-13 Thread John Blossom
Github+Apache+Wave=awesomeness. John On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Scott Wilson < scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2013, at 22:08, Upayavira wrote: > > > All I can say is, "well said". We need to consider Wave as a young > > project - one that really doesn't yet have anyt

Re: Wave Future Options

2013-06-13 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
Agreed, Dave. Lots to do, but some agreement needed up front on where to cut the overall architecture and how to phase it. Glad to help in that process as required. John On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Dave wrote: > On 12/06/13 23:08, Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> I don't think we should bully con

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-12 Thread John Blossom
this thread. I hope that this energy can be channeled towards maximum market impact. I don't want Wave to be just great - I want it to rock the world, top to bottom. All the best, John Blossom On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Michael MacFadden < michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: Wave Future Options

2013-06-12 Thread John Blossom
I agree, Joseph, just trying to give you a target to shoot at. I am here to help you gain a market, and hopefully your decisions are market-worthy. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Re: Wave Future Options

2013-06-12 Thread John Blossom
micro-optimizations and obfuscation which practically, > manually can't be done > > 2) Except for Webworkers, everything in HTML5 can be used in GWT. I am > using it, I am sure others are using them too. Even webworkers are usable, > but its not as straightforward. > > >

Re: Wave Future Options

2013-06-12 Thread John Blossom
we have the core of a community that can help us to move in that direction. I will weigh in on the "how" from time to time, but overall I am most interested in the "x" - it's your solution. All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: h

Re: Urgent, Wavers! Reporting time TODAY

2013-06-10 Thread John Blossom
Looks like this was covered, sorry for the delay. I understand the procedure, now. Thanks, John On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:01 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hello, > > please see below - changing the subject for better visibility. > > Cheers > Christian > > > -- Forwarded message --

Re: Urgent, Wavers! Reporting time TODAY

2013-06-08 Thread John Blossom
Not sure what needs to be done but let me know if I can help. J On Jun 8, 2013 3:02 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: > Hello, > > please see below - changing the subject for better visibility. > > Cheers > Christian > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Upayavira > Date: Sat, Jun

Re: Email bridge bot

2013-06-07 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
sounds like a very interesting bridge to keep the community both efficient and in formed. Thanks! John On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) < sten...@gmail.com> wrote: > So I've been working on this for the past days. Still a work-in-progress, > and will need at least an

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread John Blossom
t dozens of e-mails just because of logo stuff > > and such, no matter how important the subject is. And yes, I can use > > filters, but still they're not perfect and are PITA to maintain. > > > > PP > > > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:58 PM, "John Blossom - Sh

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc.
Good points all. I am content to continue the Wave:Forward level of discussion in this venue, as long as we're focusing on the re-architecture of the Wave platform it's very much a development focus. Perhaps another list will make sense when there's more of a product management focus for Wave - but

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