Joseph, I agree that the fundamental issues that you raise are the key of how to get development moving. "Mobile strategy" is there at this point simply to say that whatever solutions that we have, they need to be able to work well in a mobile environment. My own opinion is that Apache Wave needs to be a platform from which multiple products can be built, with default apps that demonstrate its power and act as benchmarks for service and component integration. So I am all for more of a deep dive into OT, to getting some consensus on other core architecture issues and to getting a platform released that can reflect those decisions. It's up to the community, ultimately - I want the most motivated people to step forward and to drive these things as soon as possible. I see my job mostly as trying to help drive talent and respect our way through improved communications and helping to formulate the overall requirements as production and proof of concept code begins to move forward.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Joseph Gentle <jose...@gmail.com> wrote: > I still want a technical deep-dive on OT at some point. > > Issues: > - Are we building a platform or a product? (In my opinion our platform > isn't good enough, and thats where I want to focus our efforts for > now) > - What OT algorithms should we use? > - If we use Torben's OT system, how expensive is it actually for daily > use? Is there a way to make it fast and still sign operations? Is > there a way to use OTR? > > This stuff is more important than figuring out our mobile strategy for now. > > -J > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:15 AM, John Blossom <jblos...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks to Alex North, Ali Lown, Bruno Gonzalez, Jérémy Naegel, and Joseph > > Gentle for their active participation in our first Apache Wave team > > hangout. We also saw Christian Grobmeier trying to connect briefly, and > > some others are listed as having went, but that was the core group > online. > > You can view the event at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNF_-ogcoIA > > > > We had a pretty good discussion, though it would have benefited from > others > > more focused on OT, no doubt. I think that we've demonstrated how to use > > the technology to communicate in the community and to further leverage it > > to make the world more available of Apache Wave development and where it > > stands. I don't what to be the permanent host of these hangouts, or any > > person-to-person communications, but I am glad to help facilitate them as > > needed. It's a communication tool, and any way that we can use it as a > > community in ways that reinforce its goals and values is good. > > > > The main question coming out of this hangout from my perspective is this: > > how to we choose a path for development that will result in a powerful > > solution for mobile collaboration that can support multiple apps in a > > common data model? I don't know that a Hangout is the place to solve > that, > > this is probable the best place to start. In the meantime, I will be glad > > to help create a new "office hours" event on Hangout and have people > decide > > what they want to discuss. Thanks to everyone who participated, the > > logistics seem to have worked out pretty well. > > > > John Blossom >
