By the way, if anyone wants to develop for PocketPC (CE 3.0) or CE 2.12
devices, but thought the tools were too expensive, check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/ce/tools/emvt30order.asp
The tools are free, but they charge $7.50 for shipping. You get CE
versions of Visual C and Vi
).
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At 04:13 PM 1/25/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Is this just the 30-day trial version, or the real package?
>Are there any catches like upgrade requirements?
>
>Also, can it generate binaries for any WinCE platform
>(specifically, I'm interested in SH (Hitachi SuperH))?
>
>Thank
>>Are the logged-in / logged-out display resolutions the same?
>
>No. Both clients are running at 1280x1024, server at 800x600. I've got
An explanation for why the question was asked would probably help... Any
time the Windows machine running the VNC server changes its resolution, the
server
The only time I have seen a remote login/logoff cause a VNC drop is when
the server has different screen resolutions for login than it has for
normal use. That is why I gave the extended explanation that I did. When
you log in LOCALLY, does the monitor click or do anything to suggest that
it is
Screen comes from Server, so server would have to be on user's machine.
WinVNC can be installed as a service, so it is always running on user's
machine, though I would find that offensive as a user. The server can also
be run as a normal program, which allows the user to know when their
machine i
That is mostly correct. 80 is not used for anything. WinVNC places its
HTTP server at port 58xx. An important note, however, is that if you use
the vncviewer.exe client rather than the Java applet, the only port that is
needed is the 59xx port. 58xx is only needed for people wishing to control
>I realize I could just run CDE and get the same
>effect, but I like my twm window manager which
>I have customized quite extensively and CDE does
>not use twm.
Alternatively, check out tvtwm, which apparently uses the same config files
as twm, but provides a virtual screen on the X side. This
Sick and Painful Though-Of-The-Day:
If you can guarantee that the Win32 based server has it's audio recording
system set up to Record from all output channels, including "Wave Out", I
have a class that will call a function of your choosing for every N samples
of audio data. You could then transm
>Sick and Painful Though-Of-The-Day:
Sorry, make that "Thought-Of-The-Day"...
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>>I'm using VNC/MacOS Viewer and a Windows server under Win2000. We've
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>Under a *nix server and Windows client, I've found the best combo is using
[Please note, I am not the original poster, so if the following offends,
please don't blame him...]
Ummm, solutions for *nix se
What I finally learned to do was replace the twm line with
/etc/X11R6/xinit/Xclients
or
~/.Xclients
or something like that. You can find where Xclients exists with:
find / -name Xclients
If your machine is single user, you may only have the global one
like the first path I gave. If you ha
I am trying to use Celine Fage's Single App sharing modifications from the
Contribs pages. I have applied all the code to the 3.3.3r7 src, and
removed the Corba stuff from my project so it will compile, and am now down
to a problem with the following function:
HWND fenetre = m_client->m_buffer->
>yes..clearly it means opening a port, but with a smart
>password, is it any different that opening a port for VNC or
>ftp for that matter?
>
>in fact, if u only open one drive or one directory to the
>world, might it not be even safer?
Well, it would be, except that Microsoft has demonstrably pa
One alternative suggestion - if X windows works well, you could try the
port of XFree86 to Win32 DirectX that was done with CygWin. This is
developer code, and I haven't tested it, so I will simply leave you with
the link and let you check it out for yourself. In theory, as an X server
sitting o
Drive letters are single characters, so you can extend somewhat further
into the ASCII character set, but you quickly run into a problem... The
next "letter" after Z is [, which just looks funny ( [:\config.sys ), but
probably works. The second character after Z is \, which will confuse the
file
>I've just this minute joined this mailing list.
>
>I thought it was to discuss VNC.
>
>Am I in the wrong place?
You are in the right place, but things sometimes take considerable side
roads. Having remote control of a computer raises the issue of file
transfer to remote machines, which spawned
>The ONLY other change I made is that I have VNC running as an app instead
>of a service on Windows ME, but I can't imagine that made much of a
difference.
Windows ME has the stupidest networking option I have ever seen -- if it
can't detect a functioning network connection, it disables the ENTI
At 10:34 AM 2/23/01 -, you wrote:
>Being the non-programming sort of person I am, is there anyone out there
>working on a version of VNC for ARM processor powered machines like the
>iPaq?
>
>~Shaun R.
The PocketPC development tools are free from Microsoft. You can either
download the two CD
>Hi Brett,
>
>VNC requires two ports to go in and out 5800 and 5900. Will not work any
other way.
>
>Mario
Sorry, but if you don't know what you're talking about, PLEASE don't send
in answers. People get confused enough without deliberately presenting
false information.
5900 + (or 59xx in shor
Just as a note from someone who has been working to port the VNCviewer code
to new platforms:
The use of "log" as a global variable name was and is amazingly poorly
thought out. "log()" is a standard math library function, and many
compilers (the ones I keep having to use, in particular) are not
For those of you who may find yourself needing to program a Windows CE 3.0
/ PocketPC device, it can be very helpful to your users if you ALWAYS
ensure that the virtual keyboard is available before asking them for any
textual input. Here is the code necessary for doing so:
#include
#include
v
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>How can i disable or hide the remote screen for my users?. I need the remote
>users can't see what i doing with their computers.
and
>how can i install vnc server as remote and giving the password and settings?
>thanks.
Maybe I'm paranoid, but a remote installation sp
Just curious... Why does VNC have a function called Swap16IfLE()? Why not
use ntohs()? Or is ntohs equivalent to a Swap16IfBE()? Host computer byte
ordering vs canonical network byte ordering is something that the earliest
TCP/IP stacks solved and provided routines for...
Of course, standard
>> Does anyone know what the warning message mean when I ran an
>> application with in the VNC desktop. I tried to start the VNC server
>> in 8, 16 and 24, I still got the warning.
>>
>> *WARNING: Atr: Failed to find 8-plane PseudoColor visual
>>
>> My Desktop color depth is set to 24 on my
At 03:13 PM 3/2/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong??? I've searched all the online
>resources to no avail...
>
>I have been using VNC for some time on my local LAN between my NT machine
>and Solaris workstations. I now also admin our company mail server which is
>also
>intercepted very differently. One way to do what you are asking for would
>be to write your own video driver. My understanding is that Windows 2000
>allows for multiple video drivers to exist at once yet obtain the same
>screen information, however I might be wrong on that count. Regardless,
>
>through. Doing so to GDI32 would be perfect. Unfortunately, Microsoft
>appears to have pulled said article. I know that it was from some
Ouch... I found the listing. It's pretty hairy, and it is in VB code,
which is not the way I would want to do this, but that's life, I guess...
The extrem
At 01:28 PM 3/6/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Then double check to make sure that you added the registry value correctly
>(it does NOT go in the "Default" key). I don't think you have to, but try
>stopping and re-starting the WinVNC Service.
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Has anyone looked into SetDDIHook? It is part of the Active Accessibility
system, and allows you to route ALL GDI->device driver calls through a
16-bit DLL of your choice. The 16 bit part annoys me, but it would give
you all the information you could hope to need, and you could simply pass
on an
>> Has anyone looked into SetDDIHook? It is part of the Active Accessibility
>
>I asked Microsoft about why a header file for this was missing and they
>said that it is a mistake in the SDK docs - there is no such API.
It isn't part of the Win32 API. It is part of the Active Accessibility
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someone will find the magic clue that lets RAdmin and Remote-Anything run
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>multiple graphics drivers, one of which is a hooking one.
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will be 95/98 based, not NT/2000 based. If DDML existed under ME, I might
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something from TridiaVNC, thus encouraging them to given credence to your
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be released under the GPL, since people have to be able to recompile all
the code. If such a compiler is not available, then the SetDDIHook
technique cannot be used (since it requires a 16bit DLL to hold the hook),
which would really depress me.
I really wi
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used are F1,
ESC, CTRL-ALT-ESC, and just about anything imaginable. DEL, F2, and F1 are
the most common, though. If you can get to your bios, you may be able to
tell it to boot up in external monitor mode (or whichever mode you want).
You will have to do this locally. If you actually need to chang
viewer would have to recognize that it
was receiving an XOR Delta packet, and would need to use the XOR RasterOp
as well when adding it to the screen.
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Does this occur both with the Java/WebBrowser based viewer and with the
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>Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:47 PM
>Subject: Re: VNC for Pocket PC
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>
>> http://www
At 12:05 PM 3/28/01 -0800, you wrote:
>Is there any port for PalmOS? (I'm sure this has been
>asked already)
http://www.btinternet.com/~harakan/PalmVNC/
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the x0rfbserver) have options for disabling remote
keyboard and mouse, so that the VNC viewer people can only watch, not control.
I have not actually used the x0rfbserver system myself, so if you have a
problem, someone else on the list will have to help...
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your desktop. Run the Unix application in the VNC desktop, which
>is within both of your desktops.
Ouch... It works, but it's a little contorted and potentially confusing
for the guy at the Solaris box...
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connect to server" when IIS jumped in and handed out "HTTP 1.0"...
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The "fractional" part of the display is the Screen number. If you had a
video card with two monitor outputs, it could be configured as :0.0 and :0.1
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SP6b or SP6aa or SP6a1 or anything)
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Dunno if that helps...
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crypt(). The limitation is to maintain compatibility with getpass(), which
only returns 8 characters on some systems. The actual
encryption/authentication is VNC specific. Dunno anything past that.
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into various pieces of the operating system, and sometimes those hooks
aren't unhookable... (or at least, not easily unhookable)
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requires a source patch and rebuild)
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for a breakthrough.
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to the Settings Tab). You can change color depth from there.
Your VNC group in the Start menu should have a submenu for "Administrative
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leaves segmentation into actual physical packets up to the TCP/IP stack
(which is exactly what I would do, as well, given a transport that
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C. If you already have NetMeeting running
for videoconferencing and don't want to install any other services,
NetMeeting will also provide the occasional remote control service. I have
used it to debug machines remotely, when necessary. On the whole, I've
been much happier with VNC, thou
might be worthwhile to have a more extensive project)
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have a "real" install program...
That's about the only thing I can think of.
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mildly irritates me that other companies call these things crossover cables.
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