On 17 Dec 2001, ScanMan wrote:
> On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 10:38, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > I suspect this is partly be design. Linux has never had a consistant binary
> > driver interface, and I'm convinced this is because they want people to
> > either release source code or nothing at all.
>
> It
> How about TightVNC? AT&T VNC is realy meant for 2Mbit or better
> networks.
To be honest, never tried it. I so rarely feel the need to go online and
connect remotely from my cellular modem that it isn't worth playing with
TightVNC, I just termserv in.
I normally connect from a 10Mb internet c
> On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 22:36, Dave Warren wrote:
> > > Funnily enough, MS wrote Terminal Server a few years later (NT4 multiuser)
> > > but AFAIK their protocol (RDP?) is too fat to squeeze down at 56k line. I
> > think
> > > that XP workstation also uses RDP so I wonder if they've improved it.
>
How about TightVNC? AT&T VNC is realy meant for 2Mbit or better
networks.
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 22:36, Dave Warren wrote:
> > Funnily enough, MS wrote Terminal Server a few years later (NT4 multiuser)
> > but AFAIK their protocol (RDP?) is too fat to squeeze down at 56k line. I
> think
> > that X
> Funnily enough, MS wrote Terminal Server a few years later (NT4 multiuser)
> but AFAIK their protocol (RDP?) is too fat to squeeze down at 56k line. I
think
> that XP workstation also uses RDP so I wonder if they've improved it.
>From personal experience, I'd rather run NT4/W2K's implementation
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 10:38, David Brodbeck wrote:
> I suspect this is partly be design. Linux has never had a consistant binary
> driver interface, and I'm convinced this is because they want people to
> either release source code or nothing at all.
It doesn't even have a very consistent source
2001 11:18 AM
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Subject: [Totally OT, but what the hell] RE: VNC is Powerful, could it
become like Citrix
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 08:31, David Brodbeck wrote:
> If it's not, Windows has the edge. With most modern cards and modern
> Windows versions, you install the c
e. I think windows is stuck on having one
> > > partition or hard drive contain much of the files that make the system
> work.
> > > If we could change that to have multiplte "central" hard drives or
> > > partitions and have multiple GUI's, would that be a vi
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 08:31, David Brodbeck wrote:
> If it's not, Windows has the edge. With most modern cards and modern
> Windows versions, you install the card, turn on the machine, insert the CD,
> and let it find the driver. Then you reboot and you're done.
This is true, but it's really no
But it's not easy enough for your average home user yet, and
may
> never be.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ScanMan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
And you think Windows is easier? Sit a newbie down in front of a freshly
installed Windows box, and I guarantee you, he won't even get his
soundcard work
rdesktop.org and
http://www.hobsoft.com/products/jwt/jwt.html.
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From: "ScanMan"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> I have a better idea. You could run a Linux Xvnc server that would al
> VNC s excellent, well, at least in my opinion. What I am wondering
> is if VNC could become like Citrix, allowing multiple users to
> connect to a single windows machine. This would make VNC great,
> wouldn't it? Anyone's opinion is greatly valuable!
In terms of speed, I think one day VNC will
It's things like this that keep me from running Windows at all.
I actually prefer Mac, Linux, and Solaris, but I'd at least use
Windows sometimes if it weren't for Microsoft's practices. And
it will take more than millions of their money spent on PR to
convince me that they've changed.
-Kurt
Sam
On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 17:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> doing that, but you have to license each copy of windows you are using.
Why would you have to do that?
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>>
>> Christopher
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>> From: "Dave Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:12 AM
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On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 15:20, John Roland Elliott wrote:
> But then you'd still be running Windows. VMware virutalizes the underlying
> hardware not the OS. Do you think that Windows would be more stable, faster,
> cheaper, prettier or in any way better on a virtual PC that it is on a
> physical on
esktop.org and
http://www.hobsoft.com/products/jwt/jwt.html.
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From: "ScanMan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> I have a better idea
ble solution?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Christopher
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> From: "Dave Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:12 AM
> Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
&g
>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> I bought a NIC box for my in laws a year ago, started it and ran for a
> year and never had to fix it. The Wind 98 boxes for my sisters I always
> have to fix things.
> My in laws ar
Good opservation. That bring us to the point of Is windows really user freindly. the
answer to that is a simple No. What Windows has going for it and the *nix GUI that
emulate is called easy of familiarity. Every one expcets it to be a pain in the ass
acertain way and are used to doing things t
This getting way off topic here. But --
*nix Are the easier to install. As A Tech I have installed several thousands of
boxes. I regularly runnin got more problems out of windows than any other OS, period.
anyway that has little to do with the topic at hand. As to becoming like Citrix, VNC
i
I bought a NIC box for my in laws a year ago, started it and ran for a
year and never had to fix it. The Wind 98 boxes for my sisters I always
have to fix things.
My in laws are in there 80's.
I am not going to get into a debate about OS's, but with the current
releases of builds, the differe
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 19:08, Christopher Koeber wrote:
> > Your right. Unix is an excellent operating system. The one thin
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From: "Dave Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> I put together a custom 1.4GHz box a few weeks ago. Sound worked after
the
> de
om: "Dave Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> Windows 95/98/ME boot into real mode, load a slightly modified version of
> DOS, then load the Win32 environme
uot;properly"
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From: "Christopher Koeber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: VNC is Powerful, could it become like Citrix
> Isn't Windows like that as well, since Windows
> On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 19:08, Christopher Koeber wrote:
> > Your right. Unix is an excellent operating system. The one thing that
holds
> > Unix and even Linux back though is that it still isn't very easy to use.
You
> > have know a lot about computers and even the OS itself to really get the
> >
On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 13:17, Christopher Koeber wrote:
> VNC s excellent, well, at least in my opinion. What I am wondering is if VNC
> could become like Citrix, allowing multiple users to connect to a single
> windows machine. This would make VNC great, wouldn't it? Anyone's opinion is
> greatly
VNC s excellent, well, at least in my opinion. What I am wondering is if VNC
could become like Citrix, allowing multiple users to connect to a single
windows machine. This would make VNC great, wouldn't it? Anyone's opinion is
greatly valuable!
Sincerely,
Christopher
P.S. Don't kill me for not
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