Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Neven, On 11/4/14 1:05 PM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: > Thanks Chris! > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Christopher Schultz < > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > >>> I guess, it's easy to add new directories to >>> TOMCAT/conf/catalina.prope

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Neven Cvetkovic
Thanks Chris! On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > > I guess, it's easy to add new directories to > > TOMCAT/conf/catalina.properties file: > > > > common.loader= > > > ${catalina.base}/lib,${catalina.base}/lib/*.jar,${catalina.home}/lib,${

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Leo Donahue
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Leo, > > On 11/4/14 10:46 AM, Leo Donahue wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Christopher Schultz < > > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: >

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Leo, On 11/4/14 10:46 AM, Leo Donahue wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Christopher Schultz < > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> Neven, >> >> On 11/3/14 6:42 PM, Neven Cvetkov

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Mark Eggers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris, On 11/3/2014 3:08 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: > Mark, > > On 11/3/14 5:46 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: >> One of the issues I did run into when using tcnative-1.dll is >> that I got the following error message: > >> 12.0.0.1 is not a recognized

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Leo Donahue
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Neven, > > On 11/3/14 6:42 PM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: > > Vince, the current configuration works great: > > > > SLIGHTLY-OFFTOPIC: > > > > Although, I

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Neven, On 11/3/14 6:58 PM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Neven Cvetkovic > wrote: > >> >> SLIGHTLY-OFFTOPIC: >> >> Although, I would love to see out-of-box setup for additional >> shared-lib folder, something other tha

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Neven, On 11/3/14 6:42 PM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: > Vince, the current configuration works great: > > 1) If you are a newbie administrator you are going to use > "easy-to-use-newbie-friendly" configuration. It will get you > started, it will get y

RE: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-04 Thread vince.webb
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] > Sent: 03 November 2014 20:51 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE > > On 03/11/2014 19:38, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > > >

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Neven Cvetkovic
Reply-to-my question: On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: > > SLIGHTLY-OFFTOPIC: > > Although, I would love to see out-of-box setup for additional shared-lib > folder, something other than TOMCAT/lib with Tomcat default libraries. > Essentially, I would love to separate my cus

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Neven Cvetkovic
Chris, Leo, Vince, On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: >> So, that's not all that complicated when you think about it, but > >> to ask someone who knows nothing about a command-line, working > >> effectively in an operating system, etc. and o

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mark, On 11/3/14 5:46 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > One of the issues I did run into when using tcnative-1.dll is that > I got the following error message: > > 12.0.0.1 is not a recognized command, and Tomcat failed to start. > > Moving tcnative-1.dll

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mark, On 11/3/14 4:59 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > 1. Set up an unaltered Tomcat in one directory 2. Create a > duplicate directory structure somewhere else - to whit: > > CATALINA_BASE-+ +-bin +-conf +-lib +-logs +-temp +-webapps +-work You don't nee

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mark, On 11/3/14 5:16 PM, Mark Eggers wrote: > Chris, > > On 11/3/2014 1:33 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: >> Vince, > >> On 11/3/14 4:12 PM, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: >>> Even Tomcat newbies have to do real work that will find its >>>

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Mark Eggers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neven and Vince, It's dead-simple to run under NetBeans. Just unzip and go - use the defaults. On 11/3/2014 12:21 PM, Neven Cvetkovic wrote: > Vince, > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, > wrote: > >> On the subject of "Newbie-friendly", I think To

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Leo, On 11/3/14 5:05 PM, Leo Donahue wrote: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Christopher Schultz < > ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> Vince, >> >> On 11/3/14 4:12 PM, vince.w...@tho

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Mark Eggers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris, On 11/3/2014 1:33 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: > Vince, > > On 11/3/14 4:12 PM, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: >> Even Tomcat newbies have to do real work that will find its way >> to a real server. > >> Either of the benefits you des

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Leo Donahue
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Christopher Schultz < ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Vince, > > On 11/3/14 4:12 PM, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > > > > How much easier it would be if the Tomcat distribution had the > > correct

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Mark Eggers
--Original Message- From: Neven Cvetkovic > [mailto:neven.cvetko...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 November 2014 20:22 > To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and > CATALINA_BASE > > Vince, > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, > wrote: > >> On

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Vince, On 11/3/14 4:12 PM, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > Even Tomcat newbies have to do real work that will find its way to > a real server. > > Either of the benefits you described as a) and b) mean > CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE need

RE: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread vince.webb
[mailto:neven.cvetko...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 November 2014 20:22 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE Vince, On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, wrote: > On the subject of "Newbie-friendly", I think Tomcat would be a whole > lot

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Vince, On 11/3/14 2:38 PM, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > On the subject of "Newbie-friendly", I think Tomcat would be a > whole lot more friendly if CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE were > always totally separate with a minimum of overlap.

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Mark Thomas
On 03/11/2014 19:38, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > Yes, I've read RUNNING.TXT and I'm left wondering why do I have a > catalina class not found if all the tomcat jar files are in > CATALINA_HOME/lib Because you are trying to configure a listener that doesn't exist in the version of Tom

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread Neven Cvetkovic
Vince, On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:38 PM, wrote: > On the subject of "Newbie-friendly", I think Tomcat would be a whole lot > more friendly if CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE were always totally > separate with a minimum of overlap. > > Why is that? I would argue current setup is very simple and "

RE: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-11-03 Thread vince.webb
y issue is with NetBeans. The CLASSPATH shown above is a bit on the short side, is it meant to be so short ? Vince -Original Message- From: Webb, Vince (TR Technology) Sent: 17 October 2014 10:17 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_

RE: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-10-17 Thread vince.webb
o:its_toas...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: 16 October 2014 20:07 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Konstantin, On 10/16/2014 11:52 AM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > 2014-10-16 22:11 GMT+04:00 : >> Hello

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mark, On 10/16/14 2:43 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 16/10/2014 19:11, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: >> Hello I'm coming back to Tomcat after years using GlassFish. The >> little that I ever understood of Tomcat 3, 4 and 5 is now >> decidedly r

RE: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-10-16 Thread vince.webb
apache.org] Sent: 16 October 2014 19:44 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE On 16/10/2014 19:11, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > Hello > I'm coming back to Tomcat after years using GlassFish. The little that I ever > understood of

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Eggers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Konstantin, On 10/16/2014 11:52 AM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > 2014-10-16 22:11 GMT+04:00 : >> Hello I'm coming back to Tomcat after years using GlassFish. The >> little that I ever understood of Tomcat 3, 4 and 5 is now >> decidedly rusty so I've b

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-10-16 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2014-10-16 22:11 GMT+04:00 : > Hello > I'm coming back to Tomcat after years using GlassFish. The little that I ever > understood of Tomcat 3, 4 and 5 is now decidedly rusty so I've been reading > Tomcat 7's RUNNING.txt with interest. > > The section under the heading: > Advanced Configuration -

Re: Separation of CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE

2014-10-16 Thread Mark Thomas
On 16/10/2014 19:11, vince.w...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: > Hello > I'm coming back to Tomcat after years using GlassFish. The little that I ever > understood of Tomcat 3, 4 and 5 is now decidedly rusty so I've been reading > Tomcat 7's RUNNING.txt with interest. > > The section under the headin