Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-14 Thread Matthias Leisi
> > Am 14.03.2015 um 16:45 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas : > ...but as I mentioned before, training spam from mail to non-existent > recipients may be even a good thing… I would not train from mail to non-existent recipients, but would restrict to a defined set of spamtraps (which may have bee

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
UHLAR - fantomas napsal(a): Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54, Filip Havlíček wrote: there is my configuration: /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: http://pastebin.com/PM5jN8wi /etc/po

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-14 Thread Filip Havlíček
I manage email through ISPConfig, I think wildcard for any domain is not set. Dne 13.3.2015 v 16:02 Matus UHLAR - fantomas napsal(a): Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 13.03.15 14:54, Filip Havlíček wrote: there is my configuration: /etc/spamassassin/local.cf: http://pastebin.com/PM5jN8wi /etc/postfix/main.cf: http

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-13 Thread Filip Havlíček
19:57 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 04.03.15 14:37, RW wrote: Why send them through SpamAssassin in the first place

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.03.2015 um 19:57 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 04.03.15 14:37, RW wrote: Why send them through

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? On 04.03.15 14:37, RW wrote: Why send them through SpamAssassin in the first place? He apparently wants to filter mail

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Filip Havlíček wrote: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Reject invalid users at the MTA level during SMTP before the message even hits SA. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread RW
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:35:55 +0100 Filip Havlí?ek wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email > addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Why send them through SpamAssassin in the first place? > Table bayes_token grow up to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Filip Havlíček
amassassin/ no idea what "bayes_vars" is Dne 4.3.2015 v 13:45 Reindl Harald napsal(a): Am 04.03.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Filip Havlíček: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Reindl Harald
amassassin/ no idea what "bayes_vars" is Dne 4.3.2015 v 13:45 Reindl Harald napsal(a): Am 04.03.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Filip Havlíček: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to

Re: Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.03.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Filip Havlíček: I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to 0,5GB right now, because there are thounsands of unknown email addresses like: a...@hotmail.com ablewi

Bayes learning for legitimate users

2015-03-04 Thread Filip Havlíček
Hi, I would like to ask you, how can I *allow **only **legitimate* email addresses (existing users) for bayes learning? Table bayes_token grow up to 0,5GB right now, because there are thounsands of unknown email addresses like: a...@hotmail.com ablewi...@hotmail.com abl...@hotmail.com

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/5/2014 2:12 PM, John Woods wrote: I did skim bug 5503 earlier, but didn't understand it at first. Knowing the history now, it makes a little more sense, although I'm still fuzzy on why the value of "3" for the body and head points is important. Can disagree. I don't know the history

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014, John Woods wrote: As for Bayes strategies (and without starting a flamewar), we just started implementing an IMAP folder in everyone's mailbox called "Learn As Spam", that gets processed through "sa-learn --spam". It sounds like we may need to leave auto-learning to SA's

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread John Woods
Kevin, I did skim bug 5503 earlier, but didn't understand it at first. Knowing the history now, it makes a little more sense, although I'm still fuzzy on why the value of "3" for the body and head points is important. It might be nice to have local.cf directives to allow admins to be

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread RW
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:06:54 -0600 John Woods wrote: > 1) How does SpamAssassin derive and sum the "body_only" and > "head_only" points? It doesn't look like the body_only points > correspond to any scores from individual tests. Scoring uses one of four score sets, chosen according to whet

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/4/2014 6:06 PM, John Woods wrote: Everyone, We're having problems with auto learning on v3.4.0 that we aren't having on v.3.3.2. The number of spam e-mails being auto-learned has dropped significantly, and the amount of spam being let through (false negatives) is higher as well.

Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-04 Thread John Woods
Everyone, We're having problems with auto learning on v3.4.0 that we aren't having on v.3.3.2. The number of spam e-mails being auto-learned has dropped significantly, and the amount of spam being let through (false negatives) is higher as well. For reference, here is a snippet from

AW: SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-05 Thread francwalter
> One crucial thing you didn't post: you ran the learning as root. Is the > user that spamd is running as also root? The bayes database is > user-specific, and a common problem is to train the database as a > different user than the MTA+spamd is running under. Owner and Group of the folder .spamas

Re: SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-01 Thread RW
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:52:45 +0200 Frank Walter wrote: > There is very few spam in the spam folder and then these mails have a > very small Bayes score (e.g. 0.8). But there is more spam in the > inbox. > > I thought, if I put a mail into the spam folder and after sa learned > it, there would be

Re: SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-01 Thread Niamh Holding
Hello John, Friday, June 1, 2012, 3:31:23 PM, you wrote: JH> One crucial thing you didn't post: you ran the learning as root. Is the JH> user that spamd is running as also root? The bayes database is JH> user-specific, and a common problem is to train the database as a JH> different user than

Re: SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-01 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Frank Walter wrote: There is very few spam in the spam folder and then these mails have a very small Bayes score (e.g. 0.8). But there is more spam in the inbox. I thought, if I put a mail into the spam folder and after sa learned it, there would be no question that the Ba

Re: SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-01 Thread Frank Walter
There is very few spam in the spam folder and then these mails have a very small Bayes score (e.g. 0.8). But there is more spam in the inbox. I thought, if I put a mail into the spam folder and after sa learned it, there would be no question that the Bayes score for this mail would be high, the

Re: SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-01 Thread RW
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:52:05 +0200 francwal...@gmx.net wrote: > But when I send an email with the content and Subject of an old > spam-mail this passes without much bayes-score: > > What am I doing wrong? You are testing a message that's part spam and part non-spam and expecting BAYES to detec

SpamAssassin and Bayes learning

2012-06-01 Thread francwalter
Hello I use SpamAssassin 3.3.1 on Ubuntu 12.04 with Postfix 2.9.1-4 and AMaViS 2.6.5 All the time I move Spam when I get, to my Spam-folder, where I have some spam together since the last two years. All night I use the script "salearn-from-mails", to learn from the spam which is: #!/bin/bash -

Re: Apply Bayes learning to all users?

2011-12-16 Thread Steve Freitas
On 12/16/11 05:53, RW wrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:54:36 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:30:31 +, Martin Hepworth wrote: Created a shared iMap or similar email account with a spam and ham folder for users to drag email into (not forward as that breaks headers in thing l

Re: Apply Bayes learning to all users?

2011-12-16 Thread RW
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:54:36 +0100 Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:30:31 +, Martin Hepworth wrote: > > Created a shared iMap or similar email account with a spam and ham > > folder for users to drag email into (not forward as that breaks > > headers in thing like outlook) > > y

Re: Apply Bayes learning to all users?

2011-12-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:30:31 +, Martin Hepworth wrote: Created a shared iMap or similar email account with a spam and ham folder for users to drag email into (not forward as that breaks headers in thing like outlook) yes, here i found that dovecot-antispam helpfull in the way that users ju

Re: Apply Bayes learning to all users?

2011-12-15 Thread Martin Hepworth
Created a shared iMap or similar email account with a spam and ham folder for users to drag email into (not forward as that breaks headers in thing like outlook) Then find one of the many perl scripts lying about the net to grab this email and SA-learn it to the main bayes db. Martin On Friday,

Apply Bayes learning to all users?

2011-12-15 Thread Steve Freitas
Hi all, I have some spamtraps which get lots of spam. After a few precautions, I use sa-learn to train a single Bayes profile. This profile is used for many of my users. A significant amount of other users maintain their own Bayes profiles, and I'd like to make this training apply to their pr

Can bayes learning be turned on and off in one procmailrc

2011-05-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been thinking about using bayes in learning mode, but I want to do it without disturbing my current mail setup. I thought I might (using procmail) channel a copy of all incoming mail through spamassassin with bayes learning turned on. I'd want bayes learning off in the main mail

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 19.2.2010 12:42, tonjg wrote: > > > Jari Fredriksson wrote: >> >> That is not the recipe I meant. That calls SA yes, but does not >> "reject". I can't provide a recipe for procmail as I personally use >> maildrop, but the recipe that is needed is one filing the spam to a spam >> folder (or /de

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread tonjg
e golden rule for my server is that spam is not diverted to any folder. Spam gets rejected at smtp. Is that what you meant by overkill? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27652339.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 18.02.10 09:56, tonjg wrote: > well this has certainly thrown a spanner in the works and I don't know what > to do next. I was under the impression that sa was scanning my mail and red > flagging any spams, then mimedefang would kick in rejecting the email at > smtp. I'm completely confused now

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Jari Fredriksson wrote: On 19.2.2010 1:48, Chris wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:59 -0800, tonjg wrote: Jari Fredriksson wrote: How does MimeDefang reject anything if it does not scan it? Your log header sample looked like it was scanned by MimeDefang. Propably MD cal

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 19.2.2010 1:48, Chris wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:59 -0800, tonjg wrote: >> >> Jari Fredriksson wrote: >>> >>> How does MimeDefang reject anything if it does not scan it? Your log >>> header sample looked like it was scanned by MimeDefang. Propably MD >>> calls SpamAssassin in it's scan pr

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 19.2.2010 1:48, Chris wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:59 -0800, tonjg wrote: >> >> Jari Fredriksson wrote: >>> >>> How does MimeDefang reject anything if it does not scan it? Your log >>> header sample looked like it was scanned by MimeDefang. Propably MD >>> calls SpamAssassin in it's scan pr

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Chris
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:59 -0800, tonjg wrote: > > Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > > > How does MimeDefang reject anything if it does not scan it? Your log > > header sample looked like it was scanned by MimeDefang. Propably MD > > calls SpamAssassin in it's scan process just like amavisd does. > >

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 09:56 -0800, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: > well this has certainly thrown a spanner in the works and I don't know what > to do next. I was under the impression that sa was scanning my mail and red > flagging any spams, then mimedefang would kick in rejecting the email at >

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread tonjg
uot;reject spam" would be an overkill. A > simple procmail recipe would do it without any extra process. but md is a mail filter designed to process mail, how is that an overkill? and where would one find a simple procmail recipe? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread tonjg
add_header 10_default_prefs.cf # grep add_header 10_default_prefs.cf grep: 10_default_prefs.cf: No such file or directory -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27642949.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 08:16 -0800, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: > Matus UHLAR wrote: > > you seem to be running mimedefang which takes care about the e-mail. I > > have no idea how does mimedefang interact with spamassassin, but I think > > you should ask your question in mimedefang mailing list

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 18.2.2010 18:16, tonjg wrote: > > > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> you seem to be running mimedefang which takes care about the e-mail. I >> have no idea how does mimedefang interact with spamassassin, but I think >> you should ask your question in mimedefang mailing list, or at least >> sea

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread tonjg
d auto-learn. thanks but I'm only using mimedefang to reject email recognised by spamassassin, I'm not using md to scan for spam. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27638511.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > you may have autolearn plugin not active. What does X-Spam-Status header > > in your mail say? On 17.02.10 05:48, tonjg wrote: > it says: > X-Spam-Score: 4.463 () > BAYES_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY > X-Scanned-By:

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
don't know what BAYES_60 means. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27623876.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
Arthur Dent-6 wrote: > > Try # date -d @1266390928 ah yes thanks Arthur that worked: [r...@home admin]# date -d @1266390928 Wed Feb 17 07:15:28 GMT 2010 [r...@home admin]# -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27623785.html Sent fr

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> RW-15 wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 > > Mikael Syska wrote: > > Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful. On 17.02.10 04:18, tonjg wrote: > my nspam and nham counts look the same as they were two weeks ago without > change, which makes me think that bayes isn't learning...

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 04:16 -0800, tonjg wrote: > > Mikael Syska wrote: > > > > [r...@freebsd /]# date -r 1266318121 > > Tue Feb 16 12:02:01 CET 2010 > > > > newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. > > thanks for your response, I ran sa-learn --dump magic: > 0.000

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
essage in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27622878.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread tonjg
0 non-token data: last expire reduction count but I don't get the same results as you. I get: [r...@home admin]# date -r 1266390928 date: 1266390928: No such file or directory -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p2762285

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-17 Thread Arthur Dent
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:22 -0800, tonjg wrote: > I've got a feeling that the spamassassin on my machine is improving in the > way it recognises spam but I'd like to be sure it's not just my imagination. > I did my first manual bayes learn about 2 weeks ago using 200 spams and 200 > hams, the proce

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-16 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:22 -0800, tonjg wrote: > I've got a feeling that the spamassassin on my machine is improving in the > way it recognises spam but I'd like to be sure it's not just my imagination. > I did my first manual bayes learn about 2 weeks ago using 200 spams and 200 > hams, the proce

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-16 Thread RW
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:29:38 +0100 Mikael Syska wrote: > newsest atime should tell you when it last learned from a message. Token atimes get updated when you scan a mail. Watching nham, nspam counts is more meaningful.

Re: is bayes learning?

2010-02-16 Thread Mikael Syska
ge in context: > http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27616380.html > Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

is bayes learning?

2010-02-16 Thread tonjg
at autolearn is enabled by default and kicks in after 200 emails learnt, but is there a way to tell whether bayes is actually learning? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/is-bayes-learning--tp27616380p27616380.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-15 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 07:27 -0800, smfabac wrote: > I see that there is no official answer to the question. "what is the message > size limit where sa-learn fails." > If you use something spamc rather than using sa_learn you can gain some flexibility due to the places and hosts where you can run

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Smfabac wrote on Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:27:19 -0800 (PST): > The question "So, does the documentation on sa-learn indicate that there is > a > size limit on the messages to be processed?" is a veiled request to the SA > developers/maintainers that people may be interested in that information. If yo

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-15 Thread smfabac
re sa-learn fails." The question "So, does the documentation on sa-learn indicate that there is a size limit on the messages to be processed?" is a veiled request to the SA developers/maintainers that people may be interested in that information. -- View this mes

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Smfabac wrote on Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:20:06 -0800 (PST): > So, does the documentation on sa-learn indicate that there is > a size limit on the message to be processed? Why not check yourself? Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-15 Thread smfabac
EDEC-- 3404 3405 ^A^A^A^A $ sa-learn --showdots --ham --mbox notspam . Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined) $ $ wc notspam lines: 3405 words: 18735 characters: 130876 notspam So, does the documentation on sa-learn indicate that there is a size limit on the

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: $ sa-learn --showdots --ham --mbox notspam Learned tokens from 0 message(s) (0 message(s) examined) Still no luck. Are we sure the notspam file is clean? Try trimming it down to just one or two messages, and see how it goes - C

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: Is there a message size limit for sa-learn? Yes, there is, and sadly sa-learn does not explicitly tell you a message has been skipped because it's too large. If there's a non-text attachment try deleteing it and re-learning the message. -- John Hardin

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.02.10 09:17, smfabac wrote: > On UNIX any file is a mbox file if it contains mail messages in the form: > > ^A^A^A^A > mail headers > mail body > ^A^A^A^A > ^A^A^A^A > Next Message mail headers > mail body > ^A^A^A^A mmdf, not mbox. > And my not-spam file meets this requirement: > > ^A^A^

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread smfabac
ns from 0 message(s) (0 message(s) examined) Still no luck. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27576922.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, smfabac wrote: Now that we're all on the same page. How do I find out why sa-learn is not processing the legal not-spam file? To re-cap, "sa-learn --spam --mbox isspam" works but "sa-learn --ham --mbox not-spam" is not working. Well, I would expect if this suggestion were

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-13 Thread smfabac
O Uni Is there a message size limit for sa-learn? The message in not-spam is plain ascii, no html. $ wc -l not-spam 6408 not-spam <-- sa-learn --ham failed on not-spam folder with one message $ $ wc -l isspam 1039 isspam <-- sa-learn --spam worked on isspam folder with one message $ -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27573012.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-12 Thread RW
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:51:12 + RW wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:17:54 -0800 (PST) > smfabac wrote: > > > > > > Mark, > > > > On UNIX any file is a mbox file if it contains mail messages in the > > form: > > > > ^A^A^A^A > > mail headers > > mail body > > ^A^A^A^A > > ^A^A^A^A > > Nex

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-12 Thread RW
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:17:54 -0800 (PST) smfabac wrote: > > Mark, > > On UNIX any file is a mbox file if it contains mail messages in the > form: > > ^A^A^A^A > mail headers > mail body > ^A^A^A^A > ^A^A^A^A > Next Message mail headers > mail body > ^A^A^A^A I don't know what that is, but i

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-12 Thread smfabac
ed ... =_4B73B21B.8398EDEC-- ^A^A^A^A Also, reading the file with the command "mail -f not-spam" launches the UNIX mail reader showing that the file is legal mbox file. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27566692.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-12 Thread Mark Martinec
tonjg wrote: > I'm trying to run: > sa-learn --spam --showdots --dir /path/to...mbox > but it fails with: > 'Learned tokens from 0 message(s) (0 messages examined)' > my spam mail is in a file called mbox but when I run the above command to > the directory containg mbox it always fails with the '0

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-02-12 Thread smfabac
not-spam in the past so why is it failing me now? how do I determine why the message is not being processed by sa-learn? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27566005.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread Kevin Parris
If what you presented in your message is actually the command you used, then it might be looking for some input from the keyboard - you don't illustrate having specified the particular file you want it to use following the '--mbox' option, you have "--ham" in that position on the line. I have n

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread tonjg
r half an hour now. Is this normal? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27358771.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread tonjg
it's okay - I found the solution at: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/sa-learn.html the command needed --mbox to be included. I added this and the learning worked. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27358559

Re: bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Martinec
On Thursday 28 January 2010 17:16:04 tonjg wrote: > spamassassin.i386 0:3.2.5-1.el4 > > I'm trying to run: > sa-learn --spam --showdots --dir /path/to...mbox > but it fails with: > 'Learned tokens from 0 message(s) (0 messages examined)' > my spam mail is in a file called mbox but when I run the a

bayes learning '0 messages found'

2010-01-28 Thread tonjg
ew this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/bayes-learning-%270-messages-found%27-tp27358517p27358517.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes learning trusted networks mailing list email

2009-06-05 Thread RW
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:24:31 -0400 Micah Anderson wrote: If I understand things properly, because I've got these > setup in my trusted_networks, then these previous hops will be > checked in RBLs, so the spam is more detectable. That doesn't really help. If you think about it, tests that run on

Bayes learning trusted networks mailing list email

2009-06-05 Thread Micah Anderson
I get a significant amount of spam that comes through mailing lists that I am legitimately subscribed to, either they are the administration emails asking me if I want to approve the "email" or not, or they are messages that make it through the list. These messages are either hitting ALL_TRUSTED,

bayes learning not on using cPanel

2008-05-13 Thread Angela Cymbalak
I am using the spamassassin that is installed when you install cPanel. I have been attempting to get the automatic bayes learning to work. I have set use_bayes to 1 in my properties file but it doesn't seem to be working. I say this because it appears that the only time the bayes_toks

Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-30 Thread Matt Florido
New to SA 3.2.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04. I noticed SA attaches an analysis summary for all mails it detects as spam which is a nice feature. However, I'm wondering if this impacts sa-learn? Can I simply run sa-learn on mails that have the analysis attached? I also noticed I'm not seeing Bayes pa

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 03:23:38AM +0300, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > I wonder why it is called "magic". Because the data that is being dumped is from the metadata in the DB, which we store using "magic" tokens, since they're tokens that can't possibly exist in the DB through normal means. -- Ra

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> Matt Florido wrote: >>> I'm not seeing Bayes participating in the scoring. Is >>> this because it's new and my Bayes db hasn't been fully >>> trained? >> >> Yes. You need 200 each ham and spam. > > You can use sa-learn to dump the database stats and see > how many o

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Matt Florido wrote: > > I'm not seeing Bayes participating in the scoring. Is this because it's > > new and my Bayes db hasn't been fully trained? > > Yes. You need 200 each ham and spam. You can use sa-learn to dump the database stats and see how many of each have been

Re: Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:08:22AM -0700, Matt Florido wrote: > feature. However, I'm wondering if this impacts sa-learn? Can I simply > run sa-learn on mails that have the analysis attached? I also noticed Yes. sa-learn removes markup before doing the processing. > I'm not seeing Bayes part

Bayes Learning with Analysis Attached

2008-04-29 Thread Matt Florido
New to SA 3.2.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04. I noticed SA attaches an analysis summary for all mails it detects as spam which is a nice feature. However, I'm wondering if this impacts sa-learn? Can I simply run sa-learn on mails that have the analysis attached? I also noticed I'm not seeing Bayes pa

Re: spamc/spamd bayes learning question

2007-03-26 Thread Magnus Holmgren
On Saturday 24 March 2007 23:04, Marc Perkel wrote: > The learn-spam script looks like this: > > /usr/bin/spamc -d euclid.ctyme.com -x -t 15 -L spam > /dev/null 2> /dev/null > /bin/echo "" > /dev/null > > The echo command is just there so it returns a "0" and exim doesn't > complain. Probably a b

Re: spamc/spamd bayes learning question

2007-03-25 Thread Matt Kettler
Marc Perkel wrote: > Trying to set up spamc/spamd learning. Have a dedicated spamd server > that is fed from several MTA machines running exim. On the exim side > I'm piping messages into spamc as follows: > > unseen pipe "/etc/exim/scripts/learn-spam" > > The learn-spam script looks like this: > >

spamc/spamd bayes learning question

2007-03-24 Thread Marc Perkel
Trying to set up spamc/spamd learning. Have a dedicated spamd server that is fed from several MTA machines running exim. On the exim side I'm piping messages into spamc as follows: unseen pipe "/etc/exim/scripts/learn-spam" The learn-spam script looks like this: /usr/bin/spamc -d euclid.ctyme

Re: Bayes learning email address

2006-04-16 Thread Andrew
John D. Hardin wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, mouss wrote: - you are trusting your users to make the right decision. The problem is that different people have different opinions of what is spam and what is not. Things get even worst if one user isn't honest... That's a problem with *any* schem

Re: Bayes learning email address

2006-04-15 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006, mouss wrote: > - you are trusting your users to make the right decision. The > problem is that different people have different opinions of what > is spam and what is not. Things get even worst if one user isn't > honest... That's a problem with *any* scheme for allowing the u

Re: Bayes learning email address

2006-04-14 Thread mouss
Owen Mehegan wrote: To make it easier for my users to train my server's Bayes database, I set up a user with the following procmail recipe in its .procmailrc: :0 * < 256000 { :0c: spamassassin.spamlock | sa-learn --spam :0: spamassassin.filelock spam } The idea is for peopl

Bayes learning email address

2006-04-14 Thread Owen Mehegan
To make it easier for my users to train my server's Bayes database, I set up a user with the following procmail recipe in its .procmailrc::0* < 256000   {   :0c: spamassassin.spamlock   | sa-learn --spam   :0: spamassassin.filelock   spam   }The idea is for people to redirect (not forward) uncaught

Re: Problem with Bayes learning

2006-02-28 Thread jdow
Stop receiving emails. Stop the SpamAssassin service once the incoming mail spool is empty. Then kill all vestiges of spamd or spamassassin that might still be running from previously improperly terminated sessions. Then run sa-learn. If it STILL hangs with this lock you'd a problem somewhere "fer

Re: Problem with Bayes learning

2006-02-28 Thread Tyler Nally
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 10:46 pm, you wrote: > I am new to spamassassin. Thank you so much for your help and Tyler too. Thanks.. I'm not the expert.. I just use it! > Bayes autolearn is enabled when I feed Bayes with the 1500 emails manually > using the "sa-learn" command. Does it cause the

Re: Problem with Bayes learning

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Jonathan Nie wrote: > Hi Matt, > > I am new to spamassassin. Thank you so much for your help and Tyler too. > > Bayes autolearn is enabled when I feed Bayes with the 1500 emails manually > using the "sa-learn" command. Does it cause the problem? It can.. However it shouldn't cause it all the tim

Re: Problem with Bayes learning

2006-02-28 Thread Jonathan Nie
Hi Matt, I am new to spamassassin. Thank you so much for your help and Tyler too. Bayes autolearn is enabled when I feed Bayes with the 1500 emails manually using the "sa-learn" command. Does it cause the problem? I also checked the Bayes database directory and found two stale lock files "bayes.

Re: Problem with Bayes learning

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Jonathan Nie wrote: > Greetings! > > I got a problem when I try to feed Bayes with large number of emails > (over 1500). It just hang there and I got the the following error > messages from maillog file: > > .bayes: cannot open bayes databases /spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock > failed: File ex

Re: Problem with Bayes learning

2006-02-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Tyler Nally wrote: > On Tuesday 28 February 2006 05:06 pm, Jonathan Nie wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> I got a problem when I try to feed Bayes with large number of emails >> (over 1500). It just hang there and I got the the following error >> messages from maillog file: >> >> .bayes: cannot open b

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