Re: [techtalk] Re: Newbie & all that

2000-08-03 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
At 22:11 on Aug 3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] combined all the right letters to say: > This will also allow me to keep Juno going. Has anyone any good ideas > on running Juno under Linux? I realize that Juno denies that one can, > but one of my younger brothers (of the seven of them!) runs Juno 4.0 on

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:41:13PM -0400, Caitlyn M. Martin wrote: > > Gnome 2.0 will have Evolution, the Outlook clone. > > I *hate* Outlook, so that isn't likely to sell me on Gnome :) I > loved PMMail, so having something that functions a *lot* like that > does helps sell me on KDE2 :) The who

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Caitlyn M. Martin
Hi, Dan, > > I understand, but I'm from the "throw the little kid into the pool" if > they sink jump in and rescue them, if the float great. :) That doesn't work in the business world, unfortunately. People would probably learn better and more quickly if it did. I had the rug pulled out from

Re: [techtalk] Re: Newbie & all that

2000-08-03 Thread Caitlyn M. Martin
Hi, Keith, > > I will follow the advice of the separate Linux box soon, but I have a > separate (and idle) 1.6GB drive in this box, and will make that the Linux > partitions leaving the dreaded WinDoz95 on the other drive... One of the things I really must give Caldera credit for is making that

[techtalk] Re: Newbie & all that

2000-08-03 Thread wny-tc
Thanks to Carla, Eva, Conor, Bill and who am I forgetting??? Keith here in the Depths of the Great Bergen Swamps of WNY... Considering the number of recommendations to go with the Caldera 2.4 instead of the Mandrake package, I will do that RSN, that is as soon as the 15-yr-old has her school s

RE: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Fan, Laurel
Patricia Jung, [EMAIL PROTECTED], said: > On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:17:41AM -0400, Fan, Laurel wrote: > > So, someone is working for a company on a closed source product... > > and not getting paid? I don't know what that convinces me of. > Why shouldn't he get paid for his job? What I was menti

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread joey tsai
> > > And the GNOME project hast included some of the KDE code, thus, the > > > relevant programs obviously are part of a chain reaction. > > > > No, you do not need permission to link GPLed (KDE) code against GPLed > > (Gnome) code. > > Of course not -- but as soon as you take GPLed code from

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Patricia Jung
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 11:31:35AM -0500, joey tsai wrote: > > And the GNOME project hast included some of the KDE code, thus, the relevant > > programs obviously are part of a chain reaction. > > No, you do not need permission to link GPLed (KDE) code against GPLed (Gnome) > code. Of course n

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread joey tsai
> > Maybe so. But another issue is that KDE has incorporated a lot of > > non-KDE-written GPL'd code, without asking the authors if it was ok to link > > their code with Qt. In essence, forcing their controversial interpretation > > of the GPL on other peoples' "products". > And the GNOME proje

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Patricia Jung
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:12:07AM -0400, Fan, Laurel wrote: > > Maybe so. But another issue is that KDE has incorporated a lot of > non-KDE-written GPL'd code, without asking the authors if it was ok > to link their code with Qt. In essence, forcing their controversial > interpretation of the

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Patricia Jung
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 10:17:41AM -0400, Fan, Laurel wrote: > So, someone is working for a company on a closed source product... > and not getting paid? I don't know what that convinces me of. Why shouldn't he get paid for his job? What I was mentioning was that no one paid him to leave harmony

RE: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread curious
BTW if any of you truly feel that QT isn't "free enough"... the harmony project (last updated {unless there is another location I don't know about} March 26,1999) /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] X - NO HTML

RE: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Fan, Laurel
Patricia Jung, [EMAIL PROTECTED], said: > Harmony died the day one of its core developers decided to do the real > thing and join Trolltech to develop Qt. No one asked him to change his > mind, no one payed for that -- and even if he's a single person: Isn't > it that -- if anything -- convincin

RE: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Fan, Laurel
Caitlyn M. Martin, [EMAIL PROTECTED], said: > Thank you for the clarification. The fact is, the KDE people and TrollTech > both say it's fine to distribute it. Maybe they need to fine-tune their > license, but really, it's their call what to do with their > product, isn't it? Maybe so. But

[techtalk] WINE (or other emulator) question

2000-08-03 Thread Amanda Babcock
I'm getting jealous of all the folks on Motley Fool that use Quicken. This is the first time that missing out on something Windows-ish has actually made me seriously reconsider my Unix-only lifestyle. Actually, it has only driven me far enough to consider running a windows emulator :) Or, one of

Re: [techtalk] KDE / OpenSource

2000-08-03 Thread Patricia Jung
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:45:11PM -0500, joey tsai wrote: > the Harmony project. Unfortunately, I think Harmony's pretty much dead. Harmony died the day one of its core developers decided to do the real thing and join Trolltech to develop Qt. No one asked him to change his mind, no one payed fo

Re: [techtalk] Newbie in Need of Help!

2000-08-03 Thread Conor Daly
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 05:32:12PM -0400 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thought... > HOWEVER, first off it won't install. It makes the Lnx4win directory and > writes the linuxsys.img file, brings up DrakX, scrolls thru a bunch of > files it sez that it's installing (this for

Re: [techtalk] Newbie in Need of Help!

2000-08-03 Thread Eva Fenrich
Hi! Welcome Keith! On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 12:24:45AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: > My recommendation is don't dual-boot, if you can avoid it. Install Linux on > its own computer. Trying to do the dual-boot thang adds an extra layer of > complexity, one that will annoy and frustrate you. I woud

Re: [techtalk] Newbie in Need of Help!

2000-08-03 Thread Carla Schroder
Hello and welcome! This is the best Linux list of all. Great advice and excellent BS ;) My recommendation is don't dual-boot, if you can avoid it. Install Linux on its own computer. Trying to do the dual-boot thang adds an extra layer of complexity, one that will annoy and frustrate you. If you