Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

usually, the purpose of visiting a playground is to, um, visit the playground. The purpose of a play area is (AFIK) a place to deposit the kids while (one of) the adults do something else, or as a amenity to a more serious or boring place place where the kids can have their attention taken away

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?

> > > It's also time perhaps to talk about a "trailhead" symbol. > +1 being able to tag (then get renderings for) trailheads would be a big plus. names should also be rendered in a distinct manner as well. > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

perhaps use the =destination tag instead of =private on the road you are supposed to use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access I think that unless you are an invited guest and have a drawn map and permission from the owner, a private pl

[Tagging] question: best practices for micromapping ped areas and footpaths?

I'm micromapping some public areas, in this case train stations. two questions: 1) there are large open concrete areas for pedestrians, but there are also covered walkways through them as well. http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/36.38380/139.07281 I mapped the open sections as highway=p

Re: [Tagging] question: best practices for micromapping ped areas and footpaths?

> On Dec 30, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 5:27 AM, johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>> > wrote: > I mapped the open sections as highway=pedestrian+area=yes, while I traced the > covered walkways (that connect the bus shelters) and ta

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

> On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:18 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > "parking areas, and in some cases even tennis and soccer pitches" > > In this cases also amenity=place_of_worship probably is not necessary. > It sounds like operator=*, owner=* and maybe landuse=religious would be > a better solution.

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

> On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Andreas Goss wrote: > >> this is just a polygon around a church yard, with the rest of the buildings >> and amenities inside. > > EXCEPT it does NOT say church yard but religious landuse. > > So this is how I would use this tag: http://i.imgur.com/KZvkB3i.png

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

> On Jan 4, 2015, at 1:38 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > > The situation in India could mean that a congregation was meeting on that > site, and planned to construct a building there, but had not yet done so. Eventually landuse=religious, unless you are a member of the congregation, and know t

Re: [Tagging] Problem with airport classification

The only civilian airport within my prefecture - the only one for 2 hours of driving - is a public heliport. It would be nice if it would get named below z13. the name disappears after that. but maybe that has to do with label priority of the tagged stuff on the heliport grounds. I don’t know.

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

I want landuse=religious to map all the buddhist and shinto temple complexes in Japan. some of them are huge, dotted with individual shrines, temples, sacred waterfalls, and maintained gardens. even small local temples and shrines usually have more than a few things on their location (a few sta

[Tagging] barrier=net ?

There are 544 uses of barrier=net, and I want to add it into the wiki. For many golf courses, driving ranges, and baseball fields world wide, and many school grounds in Japan, they may have a fence or wall, and in addition a separate expansive and very tall netting, in some cases 5 to 10 stores

Re: [Tagging] landuse=religious and amenity=place of worship

> On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > A while ago I had identified the following use-cases / situations, > which I now extend and my preferred tagging to them. +1 All sounds logical to me. Just a fountain at the mall, or car parking, or the building where they store the garbage

Re: [Tagging] barrier=net ?

> On Jan 7, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > On 07.01.2015 04:55, John Willis wrote: >> What's the difference between an alley and a motorway besides width? > > A motorway starts with a motorway sign, at least in central Europe. > As with everything in OSM - It’s based on it’s

Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > No value has been documented so far for rooms dedicated for worshipping > without being limited to a specific religion. > > My favourite would be "multi" as is is concise and also used in sport=multi, The exact word is nondenominational, b

Re: [Tagging] religion=multi* ?

> > SomeoneElse wrote on 2015-01-08 23:28: > > Would you see an OSM-relevant difference between them, or could they go with > the > same multi(faith) value? > > > tom Multi seems to be the right value. the definition on the wiki should reference those other fancier words so there is no con

Re: [Tagging] barrier=net ?

> On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:55 PM, John Willis > wrote: > What's the difference between an alley and a motorway besides width? > > How it drains, how thick the hard surface is, lane width, paved shoulders, > building

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

That’s really interesting. I had no idea there were locations with more than 1 commonly used address. The proposal seems to be a good solution to this problem. Javbw > On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/addrN >

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

I strongly disagree. A wadi is usually only an active river through very rare flash flood events, and almost never any other time. Entire biomes are defined by the presence of (and situated in) a wadi. In america, the words Arroyo and wash roughly translate into wadi, and because of the ambig

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

at. > > Note, I am not disputing usefulness of term wadi. I am disputing usefulness > of waterway=wadi tag due to lack on any agreed definition and description on > OSM wiki. > > 2015-01-15 3:41 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: > I strongly disagree. A wadi is usually

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

I’m a newcomer, and somewhat of a noob, But I’ll take a crack at it.: ** We are drawing existence, and tagging purpose, usage, and metadata - with a varying balance of importance between those 3 things. ** There are some caveats - it needs to stay put for a long time, and it needs to be such

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

as far as I am aware, a wash, an arroyo, and a wadi are functionally the same. It is mostly a separation of language - where the words wash, arroyo, and wadi are basically the same functional thing, however Wadi and arroyo, in some regions, also have a wider definition that includes other valley

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > On Thursday 15 January 2015, johnw wrote: >> >> A wadi is a place where flash floods occur. It is not an intermittent >> river - it isn’t really seasonally wet, and doesn’t provide any real >> expec

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

Martin Luther King, Jr. > > > > > On January 15, 2015 3:13:38 AM Christoph Hormann <mailto:chris_horm...@gmx.de>> wrote: > > On Thursday 15 January 2015, johnw wrote: > > > > A wadi is a place where flash floods occur. It is not an intermittent > > ri

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > 2015-01-15 12:23 GMT+01:00 Andrew Shadura <mailto:and...@shadura.me>>: > On 15 January 2015 at 03:02, johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>> > wrote: > > The proposal seems to be a good solution to this problem.

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

> On Jan 15, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > 4 lane ‘tertiary" road that handles 5 times the vehicle traffic, traveling > > on to connect with 2 major trunk roads - > > intersects the narrow two lane “secondary road” that is one of the small > > roads coming down from the “

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

>>> Some part of road have >>> concrete parts that are flood_prone during cyclone. >>> >>> How can we (or not) extend it to roads? >> >> >> access:conditional = no @ flood > > I'm using flood_prone=yes. With surface=concrete. > > But I was looking for some method to unify intermittent aspects

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

s ^_^ Javbw > On Jan 20, 2015, at 8:38 AM, johnw wrote: > >>>> Some part of road have >>>> concrete parts that are flood_prone during cyclone. >>>> >>>> How can we (or not) extend it to roads? >>> >>> >>> access:

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

> On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:22 AM, David Bannon wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 18:07 +0100, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > >> Some people in Poland (the ones who never browse community forums) >> maniacally tag every dirt road as highway=track, even if it should be >> residential+unpaved > > Th

Re: [Tagging] Ford and other river crossing : (was : waterway=wadi problem)

> > I have one last case: some low profile bridge (without parapet) may be > submerged after heavy rain but may be still usable if water depth above the > bridge in not too high. How to tag this? > I was going to ask this - as most of the fords in Southern California are only made for floodw

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

> On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > > On 1/23/15 8:37 PM, Warin wrote: >> >> Yes .. it makes the admin more complex. But it will get some to say >> something, and get others off the group. Flame away. >> > i do not think it appropriate for the membership of this group > to

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

If watch(es) is the best description for a store (as it may just be a watch retail sales shop - no repair or other jewelry) - then what is the problem for creating a shop=* tag for it? There will be a ton of shop=* tags eventually - especially as the world is filled with speciality shops that ba

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Vincent Pottier wrote: > > dedication +1 If we’re going to make something that goes with the religion tag, we might want to make it more universal. There are different shrines for different kinds of buddhas, Different various shinto gods, and something having

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 26/01/2015 12:44 PM, johnw wrote: >> Or does this go back to it should be "shop:jewelry=watches" or "shop=jewelry >> + jewelry=watches " problem? >> >> Javbw >> >> If so, then let

Re: [Tagging] Ethnic shops

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Dan S wrote: > > 2015-01-28 18:52 GMT+00:00 Eric SIBERT : >> I started modifying the wiki following our recent discussion. >> >> For cuisine=*, I added: >> "May also apply to other services that deliver food, like convenience." >> >> For shop=convenience, I added

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh.. 'multiphase' is a mixture of gas, fuel and water as it comes out of some > well heads if this is the proper term used for pipelines, then this would be the right one, Otherwise, =multi (like sports) would be the b

Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

> On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:51 PM, althio wrote: > > John Willis wrote: > >> Substance=gas >> Substance:detailed:multiphase_gas >> Substance:state=multi > > That is not coherent. Do you mean that (substance=gas) is for mainly > gas or gas-only? > If it is gas only (substance=gas), it can be multi

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

> On Jan 31, 2015, at 4:29 PM, ross wrote: > > Had thought about this myself as we also tend to look for camps with kitchens. > > So on a tourism=camp_site or tourism=caravan_site node or way What about on the building that is the kitchen in the camp? (so the building is inside the area tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic_signals (Lukas Schaus)

> > I did a major update on my proposal regarding the mapping of traffic signals. As per the talk pageI’d like you to consider including (and documenting in the proposal) rendering the name=* of the “signal” in this situation, as the relation encompasses the entire set of signals - which in Ja

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

> > > I also think Americans, and I am one, need to get over the use of degrees F > and the old inch/foot/mile system. It's stupid and anachronistic to base the > units of length on the length of "the king's thumb", or whatever. Continuing > to make exceptions for them is only perpetuating the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

> On Feb 6, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > This seems to have a bit of overlap with information to a large extent. Most > have tourism information for the area they're located and vicinity and can > provide a lot of the same stuff as a general tourism information office > would.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

Maybe there is a need for something like… a tag for office=* which may cover the different public or employee facing building types where the common facilities you would find in each category would be taggable, so you can tag a point or a building as certain types of facilities. office=human_r

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

> On Feb 6, 2015, at 8:03 PM, Kotya Karapetyan wrote: > > 1) +1 to drop Kelvins. > > 2) heated/cooled is a nice idea, but I wouldn't like seeing too many > top level tags. > Danger-cold cold cool mild warm hot danger-hot I don’t think is unreasonable if we’re going to have qualitative tags,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

>>> >> Danger-cold >> cold >> cool >> mild >> warm >> hot >> danger-hot > > But first temperature= > But first temperature= ... the rest can come later as required. gotcha - those 7 qualitative tags should be included, besides numerical values expressed in C. You are correct, the method,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

tepid and mild are synonyms, so tepid should cover mild in that way. usually tepid is for liquids, and mild is for air / weather, when it comes to temperature, AFAIK. Is ambient is for the ambient air/weather, ambient ground temp, or ambient material temperature? the ambient temperature of the

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

> On Feb 13, 2015, at 11:51 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-01-03 16:28 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić >: > Landuse=religious AFAIK started being used for land that is owned by a > religious entity, and in it there would be schools, playgrounds, priest > livi

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

> On Feb 19, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Seeing as a maze is not an "attraction" for me, I would prefer the first > option. > > Moreover, I would have assumed attraction was a subkey of tourism=attraction > but apparently it is not. There are many uses of the term but the

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

> On Feb 19, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > If it's of interest to outsiders it seems like an attraction. Thus how about: > > tourism=attraction > attraction:type=maze > name=Happy Tunnel Kiddie Maze > website=http://maze.example.org/ What other informa

Re: [Tagging] RFC aerialway=zip line

> On Feb 19, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Your words 'dangerous' immediately brought to mind ... > There is an 'adult' playground in Manash, South Australia ... there have been > a number of adult deaths there > ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash,_South_A

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

I think it should be k kept under attraction, because a large mappable maze is certainly an interest of tourists - especially if it is part of a larger complex. Then it would be tourism=attraction attraction=maze maze=hedge or attraction:maze=hedge instead of attraction=maze + maze=hedge (

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

I think he’s trying to say that “a storage amenity” is different from "a parking amenity”, because it is not something you would seek out on the map when looking for parking (even long term airport parking, i think) - but rather something you’d seek out when looking for a storage facility for yo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

> On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 20/02/2015 1:22 PM, johnw wrote: >> I think he’s trying to say that “a storage amenity” is different from "a >> parking amenity”, because it is not something you would seek out on the

[Tagging] Practice pitch?

I’m trying to tag businesses in Japan, and 2 common sports businesses I have seen are Golf Driving Ranges - giant netted monstrosities that are everywhere all over Japan. I mean everywhere - there are tons of them. They are not part of a golf course, just a stand-alone business on a hill, in a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

> On Feb 22, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > > You never can do it fully correct: > The breakfast restaurant in a two-star hotel just for residents is an amenity > A restaurant in a five-star hotel has to be present to qualify the for five > stars, just like a gym, so it is an amenity

[Tagging] tagging very wide steps - highway=steps on an area?

I read the wiki entry on steps (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps ) and the discussion page, and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really needs to be decided), I had another big question -

Re: [Tagging] Mapping private home toilets

> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:10 PM, David Bannon wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 10:44 +0900, John Willis wrote: >> There are all kinds of buildings we map that are completely private (houses, >> for example), yet are visible from publicly accessible places. >> > OK, so perhaps we need to tag onl

[Tagging] Proposed: landuse=civic_admin - looking for comments.

I originally proposed landuse=civic, and after feedback, I decided to narrow the focus of the value, and rewrote a majority of the proposal, with clearer explanations of purpose, narrower focus, and a section on limitations of use. Please read the proposal (I think it’s shorter now) and let me

Re: [Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > > I disagree with the statement "A ranger station is generally the first and > primary spot for visitors." that just appeared on the page > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dranger_station >

Re: [Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > The tag would probably have been better expressed as > amenity=park_visitor_center or amenity=park_hq. couldn’t find those on the wiki. Visitor’s center is some kind of information tag, and park HQ might be some form of office. if i

Re: [Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Russell Deffner > wrote: > > Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the > difference in language from the Park Service versus Forest Service; i.e. in a > National Forest you find Ranger Stations, in the Parks you find Visitor > Centers

Re: [Tagging] paving_stones:n

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/03/2015 11:03 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> >> >But what we really need is: >> >> >paving_stone:geometry= >> >paving_stone:concrete:grain_size= >> >paving_stone:spectral_reflectance_curves= >> >paving_stone:manufacturing

Re: [Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Russell Deffner > > wrote: >> Maybe someone can confirm this, but I think it might actually be the >> difference in langu

Re: [Tagging] Proposed: landuse=civic_admin - looking for comments.

I think I screwed up the formatting when I copy-pasted, as there is no “Proposed” in the URL slug, but it is a proposal. I look forward to your comments. Javbw. > On Mar 4, 2015, at 6:05 PM, johnw wrote: > > I originally proposed landuse=civic, and after feedback, I decided

Re: [Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

we should be able to map the icon to a generic tag, such as amenity=camp_office or something, or map the more private “ranger_station” facilities in another matter, and leave amenity=ranger_station to these more public facing facilities that people are looking for. The name “ranger station” ca

Re: [Tagging] Proposed: landuse=civic_admin - looking for comments.

The previous message was went by accident. Please disregard it. now for the correct reply: Reply summary: - I will make a better, much more concise definition - the separation of judicial from legislative/executive are reflected in real-world landuses, which is why I separated them - judicial

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

> > You really don't care for the tagging group much, do you? > > The way I search for a relevant tag is to use the wiki, not taginfo. I > suspect many mappers do the same. Using a tag that is not on the wiki will > probably mean it is not rendered.. thus I may have wasted my effort. By > wav

Re: [Tagging] domestic fuel transport delivery мазут

maybe there needs to be a delivery= or onsite= tag for shops. I was a computer technician that had a “shop” (my garage) but I did a majority of the work onsite - meaning I came to you. There are also restaurants that are takeout or to-go only, I didn't check to see if there is a tag for that (

Re: [Tagging] Proposed: landuse=civic_admin - looking for comments.

current draft definition: A new landuse =* value for civil government buildings & complexes where citizens or services for citizens are managed. This includes legislative and executive centers, as well as administrative offices for government prog

Re: [Tagging] Proposed: landuse=civic_admin - looking for comments.

> On Mar 9, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > > In any case, that is one example were police and court house buildings are in > the same complex as other civic buildings, so it can happen. > > For what it is worth, there is no landuse polygon around the Civic Center but > if landuse=civ

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for an event space / function hall?

Maybe it would be possible to map the event areas (if known) with area/point tags like event_space=1 and a name or ref, and then basic info (surface, capacity, covered,) and then, um, relate them to the main landuse/amenity object like the garden or event hall ( i dont' know relations). If it is

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

> On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:35 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> US Scouts might hyperbolize intentionally to "Rattan Death March" for >> extreme distances over rugged terrain. > > Off Topic: I was under the impression that it would be called a "Bataan Deat

Re: [Tagging] Proposed: landuse=civic_admin - looking for comments.

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-03-10 13:57 GMT+01:00 John Willis mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: > Is the problem that "admin" is in the title? That I'm proposing tagging > legislative buildings with "admin"? > > > yes, that's a point I don't like. If its ad

Re: [Tagging] Leaf type of "palm" for leaf_type

There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and confusing them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way the species (or class or whatever) of tree is defined? it thought there was some species tag for this as well - or is it too difficult when mapping to

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges & abandoned railways

> On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:49 AM, Matthijs Melissen > wrote: > > On 9 March 2015 at 15:26, SomeoneElse wrote: >> To be fair, someone did submit a pull request to resolve exactly this issue >> and it was summarily closed: >> >> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/641 > >

Re: [Tagging] Rendering of individual power lines in residential areas on default osm-carto

I really dislike strong black renderings for power lines, if they are rendered at all. I opened a ticket in which I was told it was my fault for thinking it it was a bad idea and to stop complaining or claiming persecution (which was really really weird). Others mentioned that the stylesheet

Re: [Tagging] Buildings blocks

Landuse=* is not just about defining a residential area or an industrial zone. I use all of the class landuses to define the individual grounds for a specific company’s factory or for a certain shop. yes, I can use the landuse to define a section, but I just as often use it to define individual

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

I added some comments to the discussion page - I would like another value of camp site added - a trekking campsite. There needs to be a very hard separation between a spot where camping is “suggested” (perhaps by people who know where some good places to make camp) when trekking vs a clearin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk

Places where I have visited for computer repair (a couple thousand calls) - almost all professional buildings - the places that would rent offices to business people and small firms (Baka, inc) - the lobby has a common reception center, and the complex is almost always named (the FooBar Professi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk

> On Mar 16, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 16/03/2015 2:27 PM, johnw wrote: >> These obvious receptions are not crucial to be mapped, but receptions in >> business parks, large office complexes, individual companies’ large busi

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good? Aren’t the driveways in a substation part of the stubsation, just like like all the other detail that is recorded for the powerline system or fence for the substation? I am against rendering.. umm.. “distribution” lines, but if mapping the

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > > >> Am 18.03.2015 um 14:47 schrieb John Willis : >> >> simply appending "private:" on existing public tags is not preferred, though >> the simplest to execute and avoids having to redefine everything in the >> world ag

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

I have a similar issue in Japan. Japan uses kerosene for portable heaters in the winter, and there is no real fuel delivery (to a consumer), such as heating oil in the Eastern US. Everyone in Japan has use use plastic 5Gal/18-20L tanks carried in the car and kept outside the house for filling ev

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 20/03/2015 6:20 PM, John Willis wrote: >> >> I haven't had a chance to read up on how to define the fuel type. >> >> I imagine there is various heating oils, propane and kerosene, LNG, coal, >> wood, different grades of

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > > Nobody's proposing another amenity tag. My thrust here is to gather opinions > about adding another shop key, this one a shop for petrol (gas, gasohol, > etc.). The places I have in mind are not the same as standard fueling places

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can change it .. or make proposals here. Just don't change the existing > values and it should be fine. > I'd think you'd be adding heating oils, propane and kerosene. The wiki entry is uneditable - I’ve edited quite a

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > The "etc." was probably added there as a catch all to include tools specific > to cars or whatever but it definitely, certainly does not include petrol. Car stores sell all the aftermarket stuff for cars (besides tools and parts) int

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

> On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > To me, and I think others agree, designated means official. Any place where > people camp in a specially prepared environment has been "designated" at some > point, either by the government or a business owner; designated to be a > camp

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

Standard vs designated needs to be rethought. I would suggest designated, unimproved, informal, trekking. This would alleviate so many classification issues. Designated is a campsite. Is it for Tents? for car campers? for caravans? for RVs? who cares. Detail that This is a place where you wi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

I like the values you proposed (the camp_site=opportunistic_hospitality email) and option #4 here - if the relation values are straight forward, then people will make the jump to learn it. I also suggest a fallback note on the proposal,, such "as map the area, amenities, and information as bes

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 30/03/2015 10:14 AM, David Bannon wrote: >> >> I note you did not do 'scout camp' on there. Its equally specialised but >> a different special I think ?? Hmm >> >> David >> >> > From very distant memory those were

Re: [Tagging] RFC - proposal page for camp_site=

Okay - I have a question - If Jan’s proposal sets the basic category, And this one sets the amenity level, Is is possible to base this around access to the spaces? it seems to set the whole tone of the camp. RV & Caravan / car camping / tent camping? An RV camp usually has spaces and faciliti

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

kr.com/7484/15786015388_f69ba493ca.jpg Javbw. > On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2015-03-30 4:01 GMT+02:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: > They are just private facilities, but they should be properly tagged as a > camp site, as pe

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

We have the landmark tag - maybe natural=volcano/peak + landmark gets it’s own rendering terms? There is the “hundred mountains of Japan” list - and 3 mountains in my prefecture are also considered “the three mountains of Gunma” - Akagi is on both. Would that let me claim it is not subjectively

Re: [Tagging] recommend tagging of volcanos as ways rather than nodes

I’m an idiot and got confused Martin. I went off memory, and I am wrong, Vesuvius is a stratovolcano. The Hawaii volcanoes are shield volcanoes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_volcano#/media/File:Mauna_Kea_from_Mauna_Loa_Observatory,_Hawaii_-_20100913.jpg

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

> Why not just map it as leisure/tourism/... = scout_camp ? What's wrong with > that ? I feel access=private deals with it effectively, but you guys have more experience in how data customers would deal with the data. A scout camp is a camp. It is visited by people who are not directly affil

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > Sounds good. > > Is there a similar dual entrance concept for other classes of building, or is > this just a school thing? > besides the usual separation of visitor-customer / employee-staff / delivery-service entrances that exist at

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > > Mosques often have separate entrances for men and women. Isn’t there a method for tagging gender and age restrictions already? entrances are often labeled by title restrictions (visitor/student/employee/delivery). so entrance=yes/visit

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:54 PM, jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: > > why would you not just use the access tag to define who can use the entrance? > entrance=* aleady defines the entrance by access type (emergency, delivery, main, service), so it looks as if the entrance encodes the “title” of t

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

> On Apr 7, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Ilpo Järvinen wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, fly wrote: > >> Even entrance=staircase seems to be problematic as it overlaps with >> entrance=main and entrance=service. > > No it doesn't. The entrance is either entrance=staircase or > entrance=service so I see e

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

> On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I'd like an indication of the preference for the default unit of the > temperature= value > > > Say a mapper tags > > temperature=42 > > The options are to interpret this as > a) values would be interpreted as deg

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

My guess: I think the better word would be stairwell - an indoor or outdoor stairway used for accessing different floors, but not part of the floor /building itself. Often times stairwells have access limitations, as opposed to a doorway opening inside to a single floor. This door and it’s stai

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