> On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> 2015-03-10 13:57 GMT+01:00 John Willis <jo...@mac.com <mailto:jo...@mac.com>>:
> Is the problem that "admin" is in the title? That I'm proposing tagging
> legislative buildings with "admin"?
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> yes, that's a point I don't like. If its admin, it is not legislation.
That’s a point I just realized.
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> Do you have a suggestion for a better civic_? "Government"seems way too
> broad.
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> maybe at that point, a simple "civic" (like you originally proposed) would be
> better, even if then the complement will be "military" and we'll get to cases
> where those 2 conflict / overlap. And with "civic" there should likely be
> judiciary included (no problem for me, still we're just talking landuse, and
> there would be more detailed tags for what it actually is, e.g. a
> courthouse). "civic" on the other hand, sounds much more inclusive than what
> you intend it to be for, e.g. a wastewater treatment plant or a public
> library will maybe also be included (again, no problem maybe, just wanted to
> point it out).
That separation of wastewater plants, road gritting stations, sewer repair
depots, etc (civic_maintenance?) was why I chose civic_*admin* - maybe there
is another term that can substitute for admin, such as civic_government, or
something that implies that maintenance facilities and libraries are excluded.
then Civic_services + Civic_safety would round it out.
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> I think there are a lot of judges that will never get to craft laws or
> precedents- though they do have some flexibility I how hard or how soft to
> hit you with the stick, based on you breaking the established rules.
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> judges will never craft laws, in their judiciary role, the legislative power
> is crafting laws (they might be members of a parliament and craft laws in
> that role).
"setting precedent” is a rare but effective way for judges to affect the law,
as when they rule guilt or innocence in a case, it is used as an example to
show what circumstances trigger the application of the law - it’s what all the
lawyers study in law school (case studies) as I understand It. But I assume it
is quite rare for a local judge (which I assume there are way more than
regional or national judges) in a city courhouse slapping fines for DUIs and
speeding tickets to ever make such a ruling.
>
> So just roll judicial in and differentiate everything via building/amenity
> tags?
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> maybe yes, but I'd like to read some other opinions as well, seems there is
> not so much interest. I could imagine another type of landuse, "cultural",
> which would include museums, libraries, theatres, movie theatres, music
> venues, etc.
>
Cultural or culture_centre is a wonderful suggestion - in Japan, a lot of the
performance halls that we would call “civic centres” they call “Cultural Halls”
(AFAIK) from the Japanese translation - as it is not a place for sports or a
pop music concert - Just more “traditional" performances. But I think that it
would be good for any kind of purposefully built event center, or place where
cultural works are displayed or performed (museum, concert hall, organ
pavilion, art gallery, etc).
This might overlap with community centers or recreation centers ("rec-centers")
- as often they are the venue for small cultural events, especially of the
local variety. There are 3 “kominkans” nearby my work, and one is almost
purely a theatrical event center (there are no meeting rooms).
so would this replace civic_service for any community center? would a post
office then fall under civic_*?
Thanks again for the good comments & suggestions. This is a tough nut to crack.
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