Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

On 19/02/19 22:03, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 03:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Nothing I could see on the wiki for this. So some guidance would be good. Units. I added a maxstay a few weeks ago and I found info

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On 19/02/19 20:40, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: Canals and ditches are artificial channels carrying naturual water this suggests there is 'unnatural' water... , so are the channels of a straightened river or stream. imho there is not difference between them. No difference to the water (natural or

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On 19/02/19 21:21, Tony Shield wrote: I'm not in favour of combining ditch and drain. My mind sees a ditch as a dug-out stream which may flow into a stream or flow into a drain, the drain being a much larger flow. I see drains as  having water flow several metres wide but a ditch as less than

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

On 20/02/19 10:32, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 23:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 19/02/19 22:03, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 03:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

OSM relies on the contributions of many people, most of them are not going to spend much time learn stuff - particular complicated stuff that they don't see in their day to day life. The complexity of things like the values of 'opening hours' mean it does not get used by many. OSM should try

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On 21/02/19 07:38, Sergio Manzi wrote: One thing I'm quite sure, anyway, is that "unclassified" should mean just that: "/it doesn't fall in any other classification OR we don't know cr.p about it (we know there is a road there, but we don't know how it is)/". No. If you don't know any thi

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

On 22/02/19 06:40, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 21.02.19 20:15, Andrew Errington wrote: If there is no limit then omit the maxstay tag. No tag, no limit. Personally, I would indeed not set a maxstay tag if there's no limit. However, even if we never want to tag maxstay=unlimited, such a value would

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On 26/02/19 10:59, Sergio Manzi wrote: +1 here too, and a little bit of the same concerns expressed by Andy (https://xkcd.com/927/) BTW, in the Italian mailing list there is currently a thread discussing if and how we should tag highways according to what are the official categories in the

Re: [Tagging] How to map Hostile Architecture? e.g. benches you can't lie/sleep on?

I'd describe it as friendly to sitters. Having to sit on damp grass because all the benches are full of people sleeping on them is not friendly to me. On 28/02/19 17:37, Rory McCann wrote: Hi all, Is there a good way to tag "hostile architecture"? To take a common example: How should one map

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On 02/03/19 10:27, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 18:02, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote: It seems like the best way forward now is for a proposal allowing OpenStreetMap data to be tightly integrated with outside sources (such as GTFS) to be created by someone. +1. To

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On 02/03/19 11:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-02 00:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Being picky, but (at least out here) they're not exempt, they're just allowed to break them :-) eg in an emergency, an ambulance can go through a red light, but if they cause an accident by doing so, the driv

Re: [Tagging] What is a conscription number (addr:conscriptionnumber)?

On 04/03/19 08:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yes, nice & clear thanks Mateusz - when I'd seen the name listed previously, I'd always assumed it was something to do with allocating areas for conscription for military service! Just clarifying for my own interests sake - so the village / suburb

Re: [Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information

On 04/03/19 06:12, Nick Bolten wrote: A recent post on the Mapillary blog (https://blog.mapillary.com/update/2019/02/12/potential-for-openstreetmap-to-seize-the-curb.html) reminded me of my long-running wish to have more curb lines mapped, so I wanted to get a discussion started to see what peo

[Tagging] tagging laboratories

Hi, From https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/62806/how-to-tag-a-research-laboratory and https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/thevikas/diary/47849 There appearsto be no information on how to tag a laboratory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratory These can be commercialfirms, part of t

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 04/03/19 21:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I would expect the "uplink" information to be relevant, as most satellite antennas are used for receiving only (those private tv reception antennas). Do not counter this with "not sufficiently relevant for mapping", as you'll see people will likely

Re: [Tagging] tagging laboratories

On 04/03/19 21:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 4. März 2019 um 09:37 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: These can be commercialfirms, part of the government, or part of a university etc. They usually specialise in one f

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 05/03/19 19:00, Marián Kyral wrote: Hi, recently was dropped [1] the leisure=common rendering from openstreetmap-carto as it is "misused" by mappers. A suggested replacements are: *leisure=park, landuse=grass and/or landuse=farmland*. But there are many places around, that are not official

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 05/03/19 20:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the "map it as I see it" test. man_made=antenna + antenna:reflector=dis

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 05/03/19 21:30, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-05 11:14, Warin wrote: On 05/03/19 20:08, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On Mon, March 4, 2019 11:20 pm, Warin wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This is a way to solve most of the problem, but it fails the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On 05/03/19 22:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 5, 2019, 11:48 AM by s...@smz.it: Hi! On 2019-03-05 11:13, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 5, 2019, 9:00 AM by mky...@email.cz : Typically a small areas in the city between apartment buildings

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 06/03/19 12:38, Sergio Manzi wrote: Also, if on the other hand you don't expect all TV antennas to be mapped, what will be the value of such fragmentary and sparse information? "/Cui prodest/"? Who is going to benefit from such information? Those with a concrete interest in such information

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 06/03/19 13:31, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-06 03:20, Warin wrote: On 06/03/19 12:38, Sergio Manzi wrote: Also, if on the other hand you don't expect all TV antennas to be mapped, what will be the value of such fragmentary and sparse information? "/Cui prodest/"? Who is g

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 06/03/19 18:52, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: On 3/6/19 6:00 AM, Warin wrote: So .. what is the best way to map them? My proposal would be a straightforward main tags chain to describe the physical landmark features - and then all the extra sauce specialists might want, but in a way that

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

On 07/03/19 18:55, Richard Fairhurst wrote: They don’t belong in OSM for the reasons you state, and would be better hosted independently on umap or similar. They could go into OHM on a year by year basis? Each year can have a different route... ___

Re: [Tagging] Pets allowed

On 08/03/19 00:07, seirra blake wrote: while I can't see a problem with a tag for each pet, it may still make more sense to have a pets tag and just namespace species/related things under it similar to the access tag. use cases I can think of: * pets=no | no matter what, no pets * pets=y

Re: [Tagging] "satellit"

On 07/03/19 20:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 7. März 2019 um 09:57 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>>: It's good that radio telescopes have been mentioned. While considering this issue, you should also take a look at towers with tower:type=comm

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Line attachments

On 08/03/19 10:40, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-08 00:35, François Lacombe wrote: Hi all The line attachments proposal has been updated according to comments received all along past weeks. Thanks to TOGA and Nakaner mainly. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Lines_clamps

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

On 08/03/19 11:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races on otherwise normal streets - they should also be deleted? I would first transfer them to something else. If they have historic significance then OHM. The bicycle routes are used by variou

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Line attachments

On 08/03/19 12:16, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-08 02:08, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 19:39, Warin<61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Let the mappers vote on if it should be in OSM by using or not using it. Here we should be getting the best tags +1, I would rather have

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Line attachments

On 08/03/19 12:16, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-08 02:08, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 19:39, Warin<61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Let the mappers vote on if it should be in OSM by using or not using it. Here we should be getting the best tags +1, I would rather have

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

g what I have edited and why is not infrequent. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 14:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 08/03/19 11:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 10/03/19 09:10, Jan S wrote: Am 9. März 2019 22:34:39 MEZ schrieb marc marc : police:name : it's not what should be in operator or network ? or simply use the name=* tag? police:type : type is a no-meaning tag despite I currently no idea for a good name. I think you have police:specia

[Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

Hi There are a fair number of commercial tutor/coaching establishments that provide after school hours tuition in various subjects/courses. e.g. https://www.alcentres.co.uk/small-group-tuition/  https://talent-100.com.au/ How to tag them? They are not schools in that they are not large l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

visit? police:name <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:police:name&action=edit&redlink=1>=*  shall be used to tag the denomination of police running the specific facility As Warin mentioned above, just use the existing name= & operator= tags eg name=Pa

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 11/03/19 02:46, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 10, 2019, 3:22 PM by pla16...@gmail.com: You seem to miss the point I was making.  How many people, apart from yourself, will ever have any interest in computing the exact area (or even the approximate area) of a parking areas?

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 11/03/19 00:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9. Mar 2019, at 17:18, Paul Allen > wrote: You're nit-picking about minor problems that might be faced by autonomous vehicles parking slightly in the road and giving the major problem that many sp

Re: [Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

On 11/03/19 01:40, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 05:17, Phake Nick wrote: 在 2019年3月10日週日 11:04，Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 寫道： There are a fair number of commercial tutor/coaching establishments that provide after school hours tuition in various subjects/courses.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 11/03/19 09:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 10. Mar 2019, at 14:13, Paul Allen wrote: Which of all those get mapped as police and which get mapped as military will need to be figured out at some point. IMHO we should be able to map it as both (as military and as po

Re: [Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

On 11/03/19 10:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 08:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Pretty sure someone was working on a proposal for exactly that last year, & it made a lot of sense Here you go: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/P

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 11/03/19 10:39, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-11 00:33, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-11 00:30, Jan S wrote: How about police=detention as a more generic term then? Nice! Sergio And this makes me think that maybe we could find something better for our ~10.000 "amenity=prison" (/go tel

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 11/03/19 10:29, Sergio Manzi wrote: In Italy there are five main, state-wide, police corps: * /Polizia di Stato/: a civil organization with civil jurisdiction (/with several different branches dealing with specific activities/). * /Carabinieri/: a military branch with military jurisd

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 11/03/19 14:39, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-11 04:05, Warin wrote: On 11/03/19 10:29, Sergio Manzi wrote: In Italy there are five main, state-wide, police corps: * /Polizia di Stato/: a civil organization with civil jurisdiction (/with several different branches dealing with

Re: [Tagging] discouraging shop=fashion

On 11/03/19 18:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 10. Mar 2019, at 09:35, Jean-Marc Liotier > wrote: I would support editors proposing to replace it by shop=clothes + clothes=* I was about to post to say that - so I support this proposal. most

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation

On 12/03/19 02:32, Peter Elderson wrote: you can use landcover, it has about 160K uses now by 6000 users, but you should know that a. landcover is not currently rendered by OSM Carto. b. THe proposal states that "All areas in the landcover features ofnatural

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation

On 12/03/19 10:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > “We will would like to map land cover in an area near the Amazonian forest” I’d recommend that you start by mapping the existing forested areas with natural=wood or landuse=forest, From aerial imagery I would recommend you  do not use landuse=forest

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

On 13/03/19 08:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 04:51, Philip Barnes > wrote: Although the oneway tag implies a legal restriction, and I doubt it is illegal to walk a hiking route in the 'wrong' direction. I do know of one that is

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

On 13/03/19 08:59, Jmapb wrote: On 3/12/2019 5:53 PM, Warin wrote: On 13/03/19 08:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I do know of one that is one-way - admittedly it's only ~300 m's long & it's on a elevated suspension bridge!, not a normal track, but it is posted as entran

Re: [Tagging] Superroutes - good, bad or ugly?

On 14/03/19 00:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 13. März 2019 um 14:31 Uhr schrieb Sergio Manzi >: If a "/superroute/" has an official status (/like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/20773/), I'm all-in for that. If instead it is something "/

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage

On 14/03/19 06:49, Lorenzo Stucchi wrote: Hi all, After some discussion about the idea of this project, we think to better capt all the idea to create a wiki page with the purpose of better understand the problem and find the better way to tag this situation. So we create a wiki page https

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

On 14/03/19 02:37, s8evq wrote: If you want to indicate the preferred direction of a walking route that is basically loop-shaped, a concept that is different from the legally binding oneway, then some kind of clockwise / anticlockwise tagging should be used. Yes Volcker, this is what I'm after.

Re: [Tagging] mapping large memorial objects that roads pass through.

+ 1 on gate way - can be applied to many items. A node for each pillar and a way to connect them? Each pillar with man_made=pillar?? and the way with man_made=gateway??? Then sub tags for gateway=*. On 13/03/19 21:32, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: A Torii is not exactly an arch, but it is a gateway

Re: [Tagging] Multipolygon (several outers) forest with different leaf_types: mapping strategy?

On 14/03/19 10:36, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Normally we should map features that are “real” and “current”, and is easiest to do for things that can be observed in person. This suggests mapping each patch of trees as a separate polygon or closed way, based on having the same leaf_type and leaf_c

Re: [Tagging] Expand the key:opening_hours

On 14/03/19 10:52, Simon Poole wrote: Just a PS: any grammar extension need to be compatible with the use of OH strings in conditional restrictions too, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions . While I haven't looked at in detail your proposal for a timezone extensio

Re: [Tagging] Superroutes - good, bad or ugly?

On 14/03/19 01:02, Paul Allen wrote: One problem that I don't see a solution for in PTV1, PTV2 or "we don't tag it PTV3" is a stop that is ignored on the first pass but comes into play on the second pass.  The bus starts at the bus station A, passes through nodes B, C and D and turns right at

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage

On 14/03/19 06:49, Lorenzo Stucchi wrote: Hi all, After some discussion about the idea of this project, we think to better capt all the idea to create a wiki page with the purpose of better understand the problem and find the better way to tag this situation. So we create a wiki page https

Re: [Tagging] Superroutes - good, bad or ugly?

On 15/03/19 04:39, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 16:44, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > On 14. Mar 2019, at 16:49, Tony Shield mailto:tony.shield...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Can they currently be edited with JOSM? of course, you simply ad

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 17/03/19 03:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 16. Mar 2019, at 15:53, Jan S > wrote: So you basically can't rely on OSM to find a police station in case of an emergency. let us not overemphasize the emergency in this context. In an urgen

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On 17/03/19 11:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 at 09:36, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: those vehicle facilities are places you have to go to in order to get your vehicle back, so they are public facing But only by prior arrangement, or

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage proposal

On 18/03/19 21:32, Lorenzo Stucchi wrote: Hi all, Since no more doubts were presented we can think to propose this tag. Should be better to have 4 different tag proposal one for every different landcover, one just one considering that are all connected and there are just the key landcover and

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage proposal

On 19/03/19 10:14, marc marc wrote: Le 18.03.19 à 23:46, Warin a écrit : landcover=artificial .. does not say what is there. this one doesn't look wrong. it is a category of several landcover (asphalt, concrete, ...) Err the proposal is landcover=artificial for areas that are mining

Re: [Tagging] Do we still need cycleway=opposite_lane? (Was: Do we still need cycleway=opposite?)

On 19/03/19 10:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 07:47, Markus > wrote: Unfortunately, many tags are used wrongly (e.g. name, access tags, grass, water park) – do you want to replace all of them? Yes!!! :-) All those used inco

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage proposal

On 19/03/19 10:26, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 23:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 20:34, Lorenzo Stucchi mailto:lorenzostucch...@outlook.it>> wrote: Since no more doubts were presented I'm sorry, but

Re: [Tagging] Linear bike-share stations

On 19/03/19 12:03, Nate Wessel wrote: Dear tagging list, I'd like to see if I can gather some consensus around allowing bike-share stations (amenity=bicycle_rental) to be tagged as linear features as well as points and polygons. There has been some related discussion already on this topic bo

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage proposal

On 19/03/19 11:27, marc marc wrote: Le 19.03.19 à 00:25, Warin a écrit : On 19/03/19 10:14, marc marc wrote: Le 18.03.19 à 23:46, Warin a écrit : landcover=artificial .. does not say what is there. this one doesn't look wrong. it is a category of several landcover (asphalt, con

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage proposal

On 20/03/19 18:54, Lorenzo Stucchi wrote: Hi Giovanni, We thinks that it also important understand if the area is without vegetation because becomes a cultivated land, an artificial area or the trees are just cutted for wood and so some year after they will appear again. For this reason we t

Re: [Tagging] Mapping deforestation wikipage proposal

example, make a new tag that combines 3 all ready existing tags, simply use the existing tags. Yes I remember about the fact of the key natural. Good. Best, Lorenzo Il giorno 20 mar 2019, alle ore 09:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> ha scritto: On 20/03/19 18:54, Lorenzo Stucchi

Re: [Tagging] Expand the key:opening_hours

On 14/03/19 11:30, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-14 01:28, Warin wrote: Think best to separate it from the present opening hours. Perhaps   opening_hours:persian=* (example - where the Persian calendar is in use).??? Good idea! Happy Nowruz, Persian year 1398

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

On 24/03/19 10:52, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I believe that the form and functions of Mosques is variable. The original poster (Jean-Marc Liotier) said that they are mapping in the Sahel, the Muslim-majority region along the southern border of the Sahara desert in Africa. This is a semi-arid, tropi

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

On 24/03/19 21:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 23.03.2019 um 15:12 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier : Mosque complex: tag the whole plot (often the perimeter is also barrier=wall): amenity=place_of_worship + religion=muslim So, no landuse=religious anymore at all and no building

Re: [Tagging] I have been tagging mosques wrong all along

On 25/03/19 10:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 24.03.2019 um 23:38 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: So the parking lot associated with a church has a religion? :) if you consider the specific parking a “religious landuse” then you will also be able to state

[Tagging] tags for a rain gauge

Hi What tags would you suggest for a rain gauge? Of 5 with the 'name', only one has tags * man_made=monitoring_station * monitoring:weather=yes * name=Rain Gauge * recording:automated=yes Arr there is on the wiki a list and that has weather:ombrometer=yes .. I have add

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps

From the past discussion, and taginfo .. Mounting_block is the preferred value, horse_dismount_block, mounting_step and mounting_steps have no existence in the data base so can be discounted as entries. The question is then what key to use with it. Taginfo has (in descending popularity) amen

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps

On 27/03/19 08:36, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:37 PM Dave F via Tagging wrote: Hi https://snag.gy/3jSyt7.jpgSteps provided so that a rider can climb back on. Any ideas? Could find anything in Taginfo or wiki https://snag.gy/mwYNd6.jpghttps://snag.gy/mwYNd6.jpgamenity/leisure=

[Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

Hi, This one has been sitting for a long while! Still not certain about some aspects of it. See what you make of it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Area-steps Discussion here for preference. ___ Tagging mailing list Taggin

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

On 29/03/19 17:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29. Mar 2019, at 07:05, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: This one has been sitting for a long while! Still not certain about some aspects of it. See what you make o

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

On 29/03/19 18:51, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 29, 2019, 8:26 AM by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 29/03/19 17:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29. Mar 2019, at 07:05, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians. -inconstancy across the step face.

On 30/03/19 05:16, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Friday 29 March 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: * you should be aware that you can't uniquely define the shape of a two dimensional surface in three dimensions exclusively through the shape of its outline. You can do that in 2d (provided what you

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians. Compatibility and barriers.

On 29/03/19 20:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 29. März 2019 um 08:28 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: On 29/03/19 17:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: can you explain how it relates to this proposal? https://wiki.opens

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians. -Tags on the ways

On 29/03/19 20:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 29. März 2019 um 08:28 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: should the upper and lower ways be tagged with highway=footway so as to connect the two laterals? should the latera

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians. -constant width stairs

On 29/03/19 22:41, Christoph Hormann wrote: You should keep in mind that >90 percent of stairs that exist are simple constant width + strait step stairs that can perfectly accurately be mapped with a linear highway=steps and a width tag. If you approach the problem with how to extend this me

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians. -constant width stairs

On 30/03/19 10:43, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Saturday 30 March 2019, Warin wrote: However where the stair width is large, say 100s of meters, picking the centre becomes harder. That's an editor UI problem, not a data model problem. Most renders pay no attention to the width s

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

ting .. and tactile paving.. This would aid routing as any connecting way to any of the ways - top, bottom or lateral should route. -- Still thinking on it. Mixed feeling on the suggestion of providing a central way of steps .. the 2 sides would handle routing. On Thu, Ma

Re: [Tagging] capacity=* of bicycle sharing stations when no. of bikes > no. of stands

On 31/03/19 12:51, Michał Brzozowski wrote: Hi all, A new bicycle-sharing scheme called MEVO has just (sort of) started in Poland. It consists of 660 stations, which function like regular bicycle stands (no active parts). The bikes are station-less, which means they can be left in almost any

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps

On 27/03/19 20:23, Hufkratzer wrote: On 27.03.2019 07:37, Warin wrote: [...] I'd still call it a 'mounting block' ... no steps in the name so it can be a ramp or, in your case, a platform. Add wheelchair=yes and a description=* tag ??? +1, in wikipedia it's also called &

[Tagging] airport check in counters

Hi Airport check in counters don't seem to have any way of mapping these. As there is usually a number of them it is handy to know there proximate location so your not dragging luggage from one end to the other. Thoughts? There are also 'arrival lounges' where people can wait for family/frien

Re: [Tagging] airport check in counters

ing_room is used 22 times, but I'd rather have waiting area, sometimes it is not a single room. Ant 31/03/2019, 5:50, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: Hi Airport check in counters don't seem to have any way of mapping these. As there is usually a number of them it is handy

Re: [Tagging] airport check in counters

On 01/04/19 09:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 31. Mar 2019, at 06:50, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: There are also 'arrival lounges' where people can wait for family/friends arriving. These are less of a

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps compared to horse walker

e key.. if it then requires a secondary vote for the key/value pair. Whatever .. you all get to have a vote. Whatever is most popular I'll put on the riding page. If it passes then that will go on to the wiki. On 01/04/19 00:08, Hufkratzer wrote: Am 31.03.2019 04:30, schrieb Warin: On

[Tagging] historic=archaeological_site with site_type=rock_art, rock_painting definitions

Hi, I came across this https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Asite_type It posses a problem with rock_painting, rock_carving (petroglyph) and rock_art. rock_carving (petroglyph) is already well defined https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Asite_type%3Dpetroglyph Neither of the ot

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps compared to horse walker

As a mounting block? disused:amenity=mounting_block As a historic object? historic=mounting_block ..or historic=yes Depending on what feature you want to map. You could map both, say one as a node the other as a small circular area. This would follow the OSM guide of  'one feature, one OSM ent

Re: [Tagging] Comments on documenting winter speed limits tagging

On 04/04/19 10:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 3. Apr 2019, at 21:35, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Documenting used keys on Wiki is always a good idea. I’m still advocating the proposal section for the documentation of new and basically unused tags (or very low usage).

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

On 03/04/19 20:41, Phake Nick wrote: There are religion=chinese_folk and religion=vietnamese_folk for indigenous religion for Chinese people and Vietnamese people, you might wish to check is there similar existing value in use for Australian aboriginal religious sites, if not you might wish to

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps compared to horse walker

On 04/04/19 06:51, Philip Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2019-04-01 at 19:47 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:23, Tony Shield > wrote: and have confidence that this historic grade II mounting block will fit into the schema? Its not presently in use as i

Re: [Tagging] Tagging shared campuses: landuse=school- alternative landuse=educational

On 05/04/19 07:20, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 4. Apr 2019, at 22:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: landuse is usually seen as a property about the use of land, this proposal uses it as a fe feature to represent a named object of several schools. If I split the landuse in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Grain Storage Centre

On 06/04/19 03:38, Philip Barnes wrote: On Friday, 5 April 2019, Richard Welty wrote: On 4/5/19 11:19 AM, Cédric Mélac wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Grain_Storage_Centre Defintion: A large site with many silos and barns which concentrates crops from farms around b

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Grain Storage Centre

On 06/04/19 16:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 09:58, Paul Allen > wrote: Having thought about it, a case could be made for landuse=depot + depot=grain_storage That's not a bad thought Or maybe just landuse=commercial, since the p

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Feature Proposal - area of steps for pedestrians.

On 10/04/19 01:42, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 29.03.19 07:05, Warin wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Area-steps Detailed steps would be great for 3d rendering, so I'm very interested in the topic as a data consumer. However, reading the proposal leaves me with

Re: [Tagging] Residential=rural, =urban?

On 10/04/19 18:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: There is a page for residential=rural created in July 2015 without a proposal. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:residential%3Drural&action=history The page says: "residential=rural is a subtag of landuse=residential and is used to s

[Tagging] tags for a live stock sale yard

Any suggestions fora live stock sale yard? Not a farm. Don't really like landuse=commercial. Way 532692207 is one. It really is associated with agriculture... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listi

Re: [Tagging] Residential=rural, =urban?

On 11/04/19 19:06, Ilya Zverev wrote: You are mostly correct, =rural is for quarter areas (that are bonded by streets and have no streets inside) that contain mostly one- or two-level houses, and =urban is for bigger (~4-5 levels), usually detached apartment buildings. The value of the tag is

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