On 11/03/19 14:39, Sergio Manzi wrote:

On 2019-03-11 04:05, Warin wrote:

On 11/03/19 10:29, Sergio Manzi wrote:

In Italy there are five main, state-wide, police corps:

  * /Polizia di Stato/: a civil organization with civil jurisdiction
    (/with several different branches dealing with specific
    activities/).
  * /Carabinieri/: a military branch with military jurisdiction, but
    also civil jurisdiction.
  * /Polizia penitenziaria/:  a civil organization handling prisons,
    but with also other civil jurisdictions.

In the UK these are not police officers and their powers are only while 'acting as a prison officer' i.e. in relation to prisoners.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Prison_Service#Powers_and_structure
They are not considered 'police' by the general populace.

Not here. Automatic Google translation (/sorry, no time for good translation.../) from the Italian Wikipedia article (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpo_di_polizia_penitenziaria):

    /"//Mainly it carries out the task of managing people subjected to
    restrictions or restriction of personal freedom. It also carries
    out traffic police activities pursuant to art. 12 of the Highway
    Code /[but TBH I never saw them acting in this capacity, mainly
    handled by the Polizia Stradale (part of the Polizia di Stato) and
    by the Carabinieri. smz]/, participates in the maintenance of
    public order, carries out judicial police activities and public
    safety even outside the prison environment, as well as all other
    police forces, carries out escort activities for the protection of
    institutional personalities (Minister of Justice, Undersecretaries
    of State) and magistrates.//"/


  * /Guardia di finanza/: a military organization, but depending
    from the Ministry of Finance, with civil jurisdiction on
    financial matters.


What do you mean by "military organization'? (/Guardia di finanza)/
Are they under the command of the army/navy/air force?
Or is that the personnel structure is similar to the military (captains, corporals, etc)


No, they are in a very peculiar situation: they are a militarized organzation, but not depending from the Ministry of Defence, but the Ministry of Finance. English Wikipedia aricle about them is quite good so I refer you to it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardia_di_Finanza



  * /Corpo delle capitanerie di porto - Guardia costiera/: a
    military organization, roughly comparable to the US Coast Guard.


 More like the navy?

Or 'water police'?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_police

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Marine_Policing_Unit


They are part of the Italian Navy (Marina Militare) but their responsiblities are more akin of those of the "US Coast Guard". Quite good English Wikipedia article for them too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps_of_the_Port_Captaincies_%E2%80%93_Coast_Guard

Cheers!


Thanks... I have a bit of reading to do.
The world sure is a mixed up place.
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