On 02/03/19 10:27, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 18:02, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems like the best way forward now is for a proposal allowing OpenStreetMap 
data to be tightly integrated with outside sources (such as GTFS) to be created 
by someone.
+1. To avoid lots of changes, perhaps only set the GTFS link on a
meta-relation where possible, like
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/18812

  This would avoid the issues of maintainability in OpenStreetMap.
There is still the concern about GTFS URL changing, which happens
sometimes, but perhaps not as often as schedules in a large city.

So a documented way of including GTFS link in routes?
Routes only, or is there a desire to have this on stops too?

Needs a proposal.


Also, if anyone is interested, I can create a new proposal for adding 
departures times to ferry routes only, and not to bus / train routes.  This 
would be easier to maintain, and as far as I am aware, no GTFS exists for 
ferries.
Just one note - it is possible to have ferry schedules in GTFS. I am
familiar with several cases of these: Berlin city transit ferries;
some ferries in Netherlands in their giant OVapi GTFS file; some
ferries in a Finland; main harbour ferry in Vancouver. You can also
produce your own GTFS for any ferry operation you like (the challenge
is getting people to use it).

It is more a matter of ferries, particularly longer routes, usually
not being operated by public transit bodies that might be more likely
to produce a GTFS feed.

I would think a proposal for routes (ferry or otherwise) where GTFS is not 
freely available is also needed.

The other thing picked on it keeping it 'up to date'.
One says a route is out of date for years (why the contributor does not up date 
it is not stated), so a time table will be even more likely to be out of date.
As these people probably have a GTFS system then a proposal for those who don't 
have GTFS should remove their objection.
But first there needs to be that GTFS link so they can be happy.


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