Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

On 1/12/20 11:06 am, Casper Van Battum wrote: I believe access=no would apply for this specific situation, in the sense that the organization mentioned doesn't want people walking on the trails. I'm guessing it's either protected land or private property these trails are on. Since the organizat

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

On 1/12/20 5:07 pm, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote: Think your confusing two terms; resolution, accuracy I understand that you mean, but check this detail: https://ibb.co/7ycFW5J At least my impression is that the 1Sec is also more accurate. It's obviously only a single test, and the recording ha

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

On 1/12/20 9:43 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1. Dec 2020, at 11:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The 'Auto' setting may not be 'optimal' for what you want, but as a compromise between data bloat and resolution/accuracy it maybe b

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

On 1/12/20 9:36 pm, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-12-01 11:14, Warin wrote: The differences are less than 10m. (The points of the green track are where data exists, the straight lines between those points simply connect the measured points. ) The 'simplify way' in JOSM is normal

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 134, Issue 130 animal tracks ?

On 1/12/20 11:29 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 11:57, St Niklaas > wrote: A horse track is not a good choice to tend to walk on foot, it already has its own tag bridle way. There is a difference between tracks worn by wild animals and bridleway

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

On 2/12/20 6:41 am, Philip Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2020-12-01 at 17:55 +0100, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Given "in the field they may also look like trails." it seems to not be solvable. How mappers are supposed to distinguish them from normal paths? Humans are animals, mammals to be

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

On 30/11/20 10:21 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 30. Nov 2020, at 10:46, Florian Lohoff wrote: Yes please - I can see planning coming up for vaccinations centers here in Germany and these are not planned in hospitals but in vacant commercial buildings which have loads of

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

On 2/12/20 8:57 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 2. Dez. 2020 um 10:45 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: In the UK it looks like the heath service (NHS) will contact eligible individuals and probably arrange a time and place f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

On 20/12/20 9:24 am, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: I've seen these in the US also, but I never knew what they were called.  I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a car drives over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a speed bump/hump. We al

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On 20/12/20 6:45 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Is there some good use for sport=shooting_range? Or is it always preferable to use sport=shooting + leisure=pitch? This is a request to review this edit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Asport%3Dshooting_range&type=r

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On 20/12/20 6:32 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Dec 20, 2020, 00:01 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 20/12/20 6:45 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Is there some good use for sport=shooting_range? Or is it always preferable to use sport=shooting + leisure=p

Re: [Tagging] Is this continouos flow a water tap?

On 28/9/22 02:59, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: What exactly defines man_made=water_tap? Open/close ability? Must be able to control the flow - so 'on' and 'off' are the two extrems. Top-down water flow (rather than small upward jet of many drinking water fountains?) Is https://c

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 28/9/22 08:29, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I would say that regardless of how it's operated - turn handle, push button, lever, foot pedal, auto sensor etc - that if water comes out, it's a tap! Must have the ability to control the flow of the water to be called a tap. Thanks Graeme On

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 28/9/22 18:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 28. Sept. 2022 um 09:55 Uhr schrieb Peter Neale via Tagging : If the user cannot control the flow, there is NOT a "tap" present. around here, the typical drinking fountain is an iron cast column with permanent flow. There is a water

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 28/9/22 21:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 28. Sept. 2022 um 10:45 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: I would not use the tag man_made=water_tap for these. Why not use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fountain You will note the different tags

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 29/9/22 18:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29 Sep 2022, at 09:43, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: particularly to distinguish different drinking fountain types <#> Am Mi., 28. Sept. 2022 um 10:45 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 30/9/22 13:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: I expanded https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dwater_tap based on discussion here and what I researched while implementing https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/4423 ("How is drinking water provided here?") Fe

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

On 1/10/22 08:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 30 Sept 2022 at 18:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I would not tag a bubbler as a tap. These were the bubblers that we grew up with at school https://victoriancollections.net.au/media/collectors/57a00a4fd0cdd12104

[Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

HI, I don't think this is a drinking fountain, another mapper does.. what is your opinion? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg/375px-Water_flowing_from_drinking_water_tap.jpg Not .. not after water quality nor if it is a tap e

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

On 3/10/22 18:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 3 Oct 2022, at 07:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: - primary feature [1] - main key [2] - primary key [3] - feature tag [4] 1) Are these synonyms (except for the key/tag dis

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

On 3/10/22 19:01, Peter Elderson wrote: A feature is not a tag or a key, it's an object in the OSM database. I don't know which features are primary, secondary, ... and why. Anyway, the term primary feature is not equivalent to main key or main tag. Feature = real world object. Real world

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On 1/10/22 09:45, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 09:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: I would not  expect https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bubbler.jpg to be a water tap, but I am not a native speaker. Yes, quite definitely a water tap! H

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

ot;feature tag"! ... I have no preference for either of the others, which ever is most understandable/easy to translate should be chosen. . Q2) Should one OSM object hold multiple "primary tags"? (ongoing discussion between Mateusz, Martin, Warin, Marc et al.) Ha! Too complex!

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

for "main key", "primary key" or "feature tag". (I think "primary key/tag" is the most popular one) C) We should document what we mean by this. -- Open questions: Q1) Which term should we choose as official term? ("ma

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

On 3/10/22 21:14, Marc_marc wrote: Hello, Le 03.10.22 à 07:51, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit : power pole + street lamp + stork's nest? having more than one main tag on an object is in my opinion a practice not to be encougered, it's again one feature = one object: you add the infor

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/ On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1 Oct 2022, at 02:38, stevea wrote: There's water_tap, ther

Re: [Tagging] Is this a drinking fountain?

On 4/10/22 08:31, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 10:07 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: I don't think this is a drinking fountain, another mapper does.. what is your opinion? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: An interesting collective of comments on 'bubbler' from Australia https://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/resources/aus/word/map/search/word/bubbler/The%20Riverina/ On 1/10/22 11:03, Martin Koppenhoef

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On 5/10/22 08:25, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 11:54 2022-10-04, Jass Kurn đã viết: I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which appears to be an American English term for a British English drinking fountain. Why promote another term, and use an American English term. What was

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On 6/10/22 10:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 5 Oct 2022, at 15:26, Jass Kurn wrote: When it should be, as a suggestion, drinking_water:type=bubbler, or drinking_water:type=bottle_refill. these tags are misleading, you are not describing drinking water, hence it is n

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

*, but I think this kind of exceptions shouldn't be made without a very good reason. On 05/10/2022 12:04, Warin wrote: > > On 5/10/22 08:25, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> Vào lúc 11:54 2022-10-04, Jass Kurn đã viết: >>> I've just noticed th

Re: [Tagging] feature Proposal - Voting - settlement_type=crannog

On 8/10/22 04:54, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: Hello all, thanks for all your replies and input. It is however a little frustrating indeed that all this only happens after the discussion period - which is not the first time with my proposals. I think rather than voting against, you should ab

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On 4/10/22 23:48, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: I am not entirely how to solve various issues surrounding drinking water terminology (help highly welcomed!) but it is now really clear to me that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Ddrinking_fountain Wiki page established

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On 7/10/22 23:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 7. Okt. 2022 um 13:46 Uhr schrieb ael : Maybe. I guess that if I was starting from scratch, I might have a general tag of water_feature and find choose suitable values to describe these things. then I am happy we do not st

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

On 7/10/22 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 at 22:00, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: With all these tags, there is still no way to properly describe a place with a pipe that provides water which is not drinkable and not decorative. Throwing another one

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 7/10/22 23:37, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: I wish to broadly discuss the definition of fountains and similar objects that have the objective of delivering water (drinkable or not). Everything I wish to discuss in this thread is about man made constructions that transport water through

[Tagging] Cloths Lines

While we thinking of water features and how to make some sense of what we have now... I'll raise the subject of a less numerous subject and hopefully less confusing subject for contemplation; cloths lines. Some Russian mappers have crested and mapped amenity=clothes_dryer https://wiki.opens

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 8/10/22 22:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8 Oct 2022, at 12:43, Enno Hermann wrote: It does not make sense to me to use different tags for the same kind of feature, so I generally use amenity=fountain for these with appropriate subtags. it’s not the same kind of f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

The symbol is of a tap, not applicable to a 'drinking fountain'. A suitable symbol could be a simple drop of water as that does not signify the physical feature? The tag does not distinguish between taps, drinking fountains, a continuous flow from a pipe, a river, a pool, a gutter or a spoon

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 9/10/22 17:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 16:36, stevea wrote: > Disagree, some are are the same feature .. taps can be drinking water .. or 'not suitable for drinking' (legal CYA?), 'recommend you boil' (more CYA?), and 'not suitable for drinking' (you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

On 9/10/22 18:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 9 Oct 2022, at 08:50, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I'll be voting no. me too, it is trying to deprecate a handful of tags I am using for fountain classification. Why do people have to “deprecate” othe

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

I oppose depreciation of the tag. I would support depreciation of all non-decorative 'fountains'. On 10/10/22 07:56, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: For now I 1) notified people who used added this tag more than once (currently mapped man_made=drinking_fountain are counted) See notific

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 9/10/22 21:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am So., 9. Okt. 2022 um 12:22 Uhr schrieb Minh Nguyen : drinking_water=no is already approved for non-potable water, and there are non-Boolean values and drinking_water:legal=* if you'd like to split hairs. +1 I'd expec

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 9/10/22 21:08, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote: No, it would not "turn them into taps", but it WOULD mean that a tap is present as part of the structure of the device.  "amenity=drinking_water; tap=yes". If something is fitted with a tap on its outlet .. it is then a tap. If it was fitted

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 10/10/22 20:55, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: If it was fitted with a shower .. then it becomes a shower. If around the pipe on which the tap is present is fitted a fountain .. then it becomes a fountain. Nit picking: Oxygen is a gas .. under 'normal' conditions. Better to use the term

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

On 10/10/22 11:42, stevea wrote: Such "rules" would be somewhere in the realm of the "policy" of the merchant (or perhaps government agency). On Oct 9, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 10:12, stevea wrote: Yes, I'm glad to hear this: somebody refusing a 500€

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 10/10/22 08:20, stevea wrote: I continue to call "bubblers" (although I personally call them "drinking fountains") emitting a jot of water on button press "water taps," as it is that button press that makes them a "tap." Yes, they are both drinking fountains / bubblers, too, as well as a

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On 11/10/22 23:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 11 Oct 2022, at 13:30, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: How would you tag this fountain I photographed the other day? The water is not potable, the stream of water cannot be interrupted and definitely is not a decorative fou

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On 11/10/22 22:38, Marc_marc wrote: Le 11.10.22 à 11:23, Davidoskky via Tagging a écrit : On 11/10/22 10:22, Marc_marc wrote: you do not need to have the use of a key "approved for fountains" that would respect the meaning of the approved tag. however it would be useful to discuss/approve the

Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an automated edit? … I'm not even sure if they all still exist 12 years later. It would not be possible, because we do not know if they still exist. So you leave them with an incorrect tag? I

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 11/10/22 05:39, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: I feel that writing on this mailing list is not such a good way to find good solutions to problems, while it appears a wonderful place to find problems. Yes, a wonderful way to find problems. Few suggest ways to fix them... I do try to

Re: [Tagging] Lyft and nameless sectioning in OSM

On 13/10/22 02:42, Evan Carroll wrote: There is such a thing as mixed use with our local authorities, residential+commercial. I wouldn't think residential and industrial mixes because of noise and pollution, at least in theory. Landuse has nothing to do with local authorities or zoning. I

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On 11/10/22 20:03, Marc_marc wrote: Le 11.10.22 à 10:19, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : Am Mo., 10. Okt. 2022 um 09:53 Uhr schrieb Davidoskky :     I would propose the deprecation of the value fountain=stone_block     since it could be tagged as fountain=driking, material=stone. There are m

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On 14/10/22 06:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: It seems we are seeing different things, I can’t help if you cannot recognize that the fountain is clearly decorated. It is not just an utility, the wall is a part, isn’t it? Yep.. there is the problem ... 'we' see different things even fro

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 14/10/22 00:03, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: On 13/10/22 10:15, Warin wrote: I see no point in depreciating anything at the moment .. 'we' need a solution first before even thinking of depreciation. I do agree and appreciate this approach. A solution for tagging

Re: [Tagging] Lyft and nameless sectioning in OSM

On 14/10/22 23:40, Greg Troxel wrote: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> writes: On 13/10/22 02:42, Evan Carroll wrote: There is such a thing as mixed use with our local authorities, residential+commercial. I wouldn't think residential and industrial mixes because of noise and po

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 14/10/22 22:53, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 13, 2022, 10:15 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: I see no point in depreciating anything at the moment .. 'we' need a solution first before even thinking of depreciation. I described what I found/considered at https://wiki.openstr

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 15/10/22 19:57, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 15, 2022, 10:05 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 14/10/22 22:53, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 13, 2022, 10:15 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: I see no point in depreciating anything at the moment .. 'we'

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 16/10/22 02:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15 Oct 2022, at 10:08, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The flow of water is downwards making them difficult to drink from without an aid e.g. a cup. while it may be true, you have to acknowledge that there ar

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

On 14/10/22 22:33, Peter Elderson wrote: Just a remark: I think a mainly decorative object is not an amenity. An amenity may be near it, or attached to it, but that still does not make the object an amenity. Some view works of art as amenities. A road is an amenity .. yet they are not tagge

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - archaeological_site

On 24/10/22 07:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 22, 2022, 15:09 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: sent from a phone On 22 Oct 2022, at 12:47, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: Following the rejection of the crannog proposal with the concern about

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 27/10/22 08:45, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26 Oct 2022, at 21:29, Paul Johnson wrote: Drinking fountains are switch or knob operated and shoot at an angle. these are assumptions based on your experiences that don’t hold true around here, most drinking fountains hav

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 28/10/22 06:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 27 Oct 2022, at 18:50, Matija Nalis wrote: instead of ad-hoc inventing new undocumented key without discussion... there was a discussion about this, tap was seen as a distinguishing property that is yet missing. Handle

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 29/10/22 10:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29 Oct 2022, at 00:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Is the water in your "drinking fountains" chilled, or is it just the natural temperature of the water coming out? there are a few “machines” that distribute chilled and car

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

On 29/10/22 07:57, Matija Nalis wrote: On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 16:43:07 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 28/10/22 06:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: there was a discussion about this, tap was seen as a distinguishing property that is yet missing. Handle is similar but not th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

On 4/11/22 00:20, Volker Schmidt wrote: I think the best way out is to think detached from the meaning of the strings of characters we use for tagging. Let's document that we have have certain values for the key "historic" that describe objects that are not historic, and not even old. After all

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On 8/11/22 09:00, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 07.11.2022 10:57, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Favoring emergency=marine_rescue seems sensible to me What about such stations on freshwater lakes and on rivers? Is "marine" fitting there? Not really. emergency=lifeboat_station implies

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On 10/11/22 14:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Another question! In a number of places e.g. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1nBt the Rescue unit has two buildings - an admin base / radio room / lookout tower, usually overlooking the river mouth, together with a boatshed a bit further upriver e.g.

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 10/10/22 21:36, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: In Australia it would be unusual to find a drinking fountain without a tap to stop the flow when a person is not drinking. I think it could be illegal such is the scarcity of water. Thus, I believe that a world wide default should be avoided in

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

On 1/10/22 20:25, stevea wrote: Makes sense to me, too, Greg. I don't know if it helps or hinders wider understanding, but I understand what Greg is saying here, and while his perspective is "Eastern USA" (and mine is "Western USA"), these don't seem far apart or even different at all, and t

Re: [Tagging] sport without pitch but club : ok or tagging mistake ?

On 28/6/21 07:54, Tom Pfeifer wrote: I agree with Yves, the sport=* belongs where the sport is performed, not where the trophies are displayed and not where the thirst is quenched after the match. And I disagreed. The club=sport with sport=* details what sport the club is interested in. Ma

Re: [Tagging] sport without pitch but club : ok or tagging mistake ?

On 29/6/21 16:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29 Jun 2021, at 01:52, bkil wrote: Could you please share an example of how you would tag a soccer club with a billiards table (access=customers) on a given floor inside a building way. Other parts of the building are used b

Re: [Tagging] sport without pitch but club : ok or tagging mistake ?

On 30/6/21 05:59, bkil wrote: Could a native speaker perhaps rephrase my question so it is easier to understand? The club - map as an area (might be the whole building). Tag it for the club .. club=sport, sport=soccer, name=* etc The billiards as a node within the area of the

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

On 1/10/22 21:08, Timeo Gut wrote: On 30 Sep 2022, at 23:48, grin via Tagging wrote: Take a pretty common road type in Europe, which goes on the embankment of a river, which generally paved, narrow, legally open for walking and bicycling people, often part of the national/international bi

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 13/11/22 03:00, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet proposal? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet There is a lot more to be done for something like this. It needs to incorporate all "man made sourc

Re: [Tagging] amentiy=donation_centre?

On 14/11/22 22:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: maybe these can be seen as amenity=social_facility? _ Which "these"??? "These" I would not tag as amenity=social_facility; The charity shops here do not buy things, people come into the shop and donate things. The shops then sort

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 15/11/22 12:16, Matija Nalis wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:00:42 +0100, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet proposal?https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet You mean the one that was cancelled because i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On 20/11/22 10:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18 Nov 2022, at 22:35, Mike Thompson wrote: In a nearby city to where I live, the city owned utility provides electricity, water, sewer, and internet. yes, it is also common in areas I know to have a single provider for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On 21/11/22 10:47, François Lacombe wrote: Good evening, Le dim. 20 nov. 2022 à 17:36, stevea a écrit : In fact, I can imagine a variety of tags that describe much (approaching or even achieving?) all of this: office=utility utility=water;sewer;garbage utility=accepts_paym

Re: [Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

On 21/11/22 12:54, Matija Nalis wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 08:58:29 +0800, Timeo Gut wrote: Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks that go through plantations or farms but sometimes also at ad

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/22 11:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: Why not both? Because a boat is a mobile feature, that we don't / can't map? e.g https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=349559642#map=19/-27.42815/153.08582 - we don't try to map the last

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/22 20:37, Nathan Case wrote: On 24/11/2022 09:07, Warin wrote: Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ... Something that is part of a museum, and is genuinely permanently secured, seems very different to an emergency response vehicle (which a lif

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 7/12/22 01:54, Marc_marc wrote: Le 06.12.22 à 00:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-November/066540.html Are there any further comments that anybody would like to raise? I have not issue with merging 3-4 tags with the same meaning but

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 6/12/22 21:51, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Still does not resolve my problem with a water rescue station where there is no boat. I don't see a requirement for a boat? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlifeboat_station Specifically mentions other things like helicopters. B

Re: [Tagging] Relations of type=site + tourism=camp_site

On 10/11/22 22:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 10 Nov 2022, at 12:31, Yves via Tagging wrote: Site relations are often used to models thing that aren't spatially joined, like windfarms, universities... I can easily imagine it's reasonable to use them for campings in so

Re: [Tagging] Relations of type=site + tourism=camp_site

On 11/11/22 23:25, Casper Kersten wrote: Site relations are usually completely redundant if you just tag an operator=* tag. A tourism=camp_site closed way or multipolygon is, of course, a camp site, and a shop or parking area on or belonging to that camp site should get an operator=* tag with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water outlet

On 9/10/22 19:55, Illia Marchenko wrote: I withdrew this proposal. Thanks for your feedback! Thanks for the effort. Something does need to be done.. but what is an acceptable solution? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://li

[Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

Hi, It appears that route name are being applied to track/path names, I believe this comes about due to signs that state the route names and point along the track/path that appear to the name of the track/path. For example Way 228853104 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/228853104#map=15/37.8

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On 3/1/23 10:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 2. Jan. 2023 um 18:17 Uhr schrieb Nate Wessel : Howdy y'all, I am proposing to make official a tag that is already in use to some degree, *shop=yarn*, for shops that primarily sell yarn and other knitting/crochet supplies.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On 3/1/23 23:51, Philip Barnes wrote: Shops selling wool are commonly referred to as wool shops so why not shop=wool? Yarn doesn't seem very intuitive to me as a native English speaker. Phil (trigpoint) I think you need to contact a knitter? https://www.tangled-yarn.co.uk/ https://www.g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

On 5/1/23 11:19, Nate Wessel wrote: Hi all, I'm going to try to summarize some of my thoughts / findings on this issue thanks to all the helpful feedback here so far. I took a good look through (randomish sample) everything tagged shop=wool , and in partic

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

On 10/1/23 03:49, António Madeira wrote: Greetings. There are closed and open storage tanks, and I think is important to differentiate them, specially those used by firefighters and rural communities to fight wild fires. The approved proposal for the key covered=* states "C. denote an area s

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

no roads! Remote areas here with populations have extremely large tanks for drinking water... that can be used for fire fighting. Extremely large = at least a years water supply with no rain fall. Às 05:54 de 11/01/2023, Warin escreveu: On 10/1/23 03:49, António Madeira wrote: Greetings.

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

On 31/1/23 00:54, Illia Marchenko wrote: Hello everyone, I suggest deprecating sport=cricket_nets on the wiki and recommend leisure=practice_pitch & sport=cricket as a replacement, since sport=* generally refers to a sport, not a physical infrastructure. Regards, Illia. What do you mean

Re: [Tagging] leisure=practice_pitch a bad idea because too overspecific for a main tag ?

On 31/1/23 04:34, Illia Marchenko wrote: Marc_marc : Hello, Le 30.01.23 à 16:24, Illia Marchenko a écrit : > leisure=practice_pitch is not suitable for full game. I had not seen that this tag was documented and in the history we already see the 2 opinions: when you see

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate sport=cricket_nets

On 31/1/23 23:34, Illia Marchenko wrote: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: What do you mean by 'a sport'? The sport soccer, for example, could be taken as referring to the physical infrastructure - goads at either end, a rectangular playing field. Similar can be

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

On 13/1/23 03:02, António Madeira wrote: The main issue is not closed water tanks. That can be a default in OSM. The issue here is how to inform that a storage_tank is open. Mind you that there is an infinitude of storage tanks types, but for firefighting, those are almost exclusively made in c

[Tagging] dry swamps

The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it. These will not be found in Europe, just as you don’t find deserts there. They have occasional water, not seasonal, not yearly but, say, between 5 to 20 years they have water. As such they do not satisfy the OSM swamp definitions at all. See http

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

dom. swamp = "An area of waterlogged forest, with dense vegetation." Not water logged most of the time, not a forest, and not dense vegetation mud = "Area covered with mud: water saturated fine grained soil without significant plant growth" Again not water saturated most o

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

7.01901.x> leaving the area." That sound similar to these 'flood defenses'? On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, 10:52 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/2/23 21:23, Jez Nicholson wrote: I see what you are saying, but 'dry swamp' feels slightly odd. Is there

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