On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 20:25 Joseph Eisenberg > “We made up a sui generis admin_level=3 for New York City.”
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> Ha! Not a bad idea for NY/NJ/Connecticut
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> But I think you mean admin_level=5? ;-)
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Yes, I miscounted. Oops!
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> “We made up a sui generis admin_level=3 for New York City.”
Ha! Not a bad idea for NY/NJ/Connecticut
But I think you mean admin_level=5? ;-)
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 12:25 AM Kevin Kenny wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:22 AM Simon Poole wrote:
> > The weird thing is the mixing of place and
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:22 AM Simon Poole wrote:
> The weird thing is the mixing of place and administrative entities which
> actually leads to the inversion issues, go back read your text and you
> will find it difficult to determine when you are talking about one or
> the other.
You're right,
Am 02.01.2019 um 19:01 schrieb Kevin Kenny:
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 11:39 AM Simon Poole wrote:
>> In any case, on your original question, I would tend towards a national
>> consensus that doesn't deviate too much from the population guidelines in
>> the wiki, if at all reasonable. The US-Haml
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 11:39 AM Simon Poole wrote:
> In any case, on your original question, I would tend towards a national
> consensus that doesn't deviate too much from the population guidelines in the
> wiki, if at all reasonable. The US-Hamlet usage is an oddity that, IMHO,
> should not se
At the danger of throwing a spanner in the works (or better sabots :-)):
there is an ongoing discussion on place mapping. Mainly taking place
here https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2816
Essentially the relationship between administrative divisions and
places/settlements is
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On 2. Jan 2019, at 01:18, Kevin Kenny wrote:
>> I have never understood why people wanted to add place tags to
>> administrative territorial entities like countries, states or
>> municipalities. Aren’t these thoroughly defined with boundary=administrative
>> and the relate
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> On 2. Jan 2019, at 01:11, Kevin Kenny wrote:
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> I understand that the UK is an exception, because the status of
> 'town', 'village', 'city' and so on relates to whether a given
> settlement has a church, a market, and similar facilities, and
> therefore does reflect somewh
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> On 2. Jan 2019, at 01:11, Kevin Kenny wrote:
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> but legal status is usually a rather
> poor indication.
in Italy we use the status to distinguish between town and village, and I
believe in Germany and other places in Europe it is also done like this.
Cheers, Martin
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 02:19, Allan Mustard wrote:
> Very interesting. In the Turkmen case, the classifications are defined in
> law and involve both size (though population data are secret) and type of
> governance structure (for full details please see
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turk
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> I suspect this sort of classification can work even in places that do not
> have good population figures available, like where I map in Indonesia. For
> example:
> a farm or isolated dwelling has only 1 or 2 households, a hamlet has a few
> families but no services (maybe there is a tiny kiosk
I put some examples in the table located here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turkmenistan#Administrative_Structure
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 11:17 PM Joseph Eisenberg
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> It depends on if it is part of a continuous urban settlement or not.
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> I use “suburb” and “neighborhood” for places
It depends on if it is part of a continuous urban settlement or not.
I use “suburb” and “neighborhood” for places that are considered to be part
of a larger place. Usually these are mainly urban places, where most people
are involved in services and industry rather than agriculture or forestry
or
Not according to the wiki. It seems nodes are the accepted way of
identifying a settlement, municipal or otherwise.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:11 PM Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 2. Jan 2019, at 00:44, Allan Mustard wrote:
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> > What do you think?
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> I have nev
That’s the American million, you remove 3 zeros from the British version,
right? Like how a trillion is a billion? Something like that. :-)
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/million_billion_trillion.png
(See hover-over text)
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 12:48 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick
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> On Wed, 2 Jan
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 10:32, Joseph Eisenberg
wrote:
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> But in a densely populated region, like Java (where there are 120,000
> million people on one island),
>
Wow, I knew java was crowded ... :-)
Thanks
Graeme
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By that definition, then, calling an autonomous village with its own
council a "neighbourhood" would be erroneous, correct?
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:24 PM Joseph Eisenberg
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> In OSM a neighborhood is a named part of a larger settlement, usually a
> town or suburb or city, though in Indone
In OSM a neighborhood is a named part of a larger settlement, usually a
town or suburb or city, though in Indonesia some “desa” (villages) consist
of a dozen named “kampung” (neighborhoods).
Suburbs are also considered parts of larger towns or cities. So a city can
be divided into a dozen suburbs,
Very interesting. In the Turkmen case, the classifications are defined in
law and involve both size (though population data are secret) and type of
governance structure (for full details please see
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turkmenistan#Administrative_Structure).
Is it fair to call a s
Those municipalities are relations of type=boundary and
boundary=administrative with an appropriate admin_level, no?
These are different from the OSM settlements, which are mapped as a node at
the center of a city, town, village, hamlet or isolated dwelling or farm.
While the pages suggest certai
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:11 PM Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> I have never understood why people wanted to add place tags to administrative
> territorial entities like countries, states or municipalities. Aren’t these
> thoroughly defined with boundary=administrative and the related admin_level?
Le 02.01.19 à 00:44, Allan Mustard a écrit :
> Looking for some guidance here from the tagging experts. Please see the
> dispute section on the Turkmenistan wiki discussion page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Turkmenistan#Disputed:_Suggested_Place_Tags_for_Administrative_Subdivisions
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:46 PM Allan Mustard wrote:
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> Looking for some guidance here from the tagging experts. Please see the
> dispute section on the Turkmenistan wiki discussion page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Turkmenistan#Disputed:_Suggested_Place_Tags_for_Administrative_Su
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> On 2. Jan 2019, at 00:44, Allan Mustard wrote:
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> What do you think?
I have never understood why people wanted to add place tags to administrative
territorial entities like countries, states or municipalities. Aren’t these
thoroughly defined with boundary=administrativ
Looking for some guidance here from the tagging experts. Please see the
dispute section on the Turkmenistan wiki discussion page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Turkmenistan#Disputed:_Suggested_Place_Tags_for_Administrative_Subdivisions
The nub is that I advocate classifying Turkmenistan
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