> “We made up a sui generis admin_level=3 for New York City.” Ha! Not a bad idea for NY/NJ/Connecticut
But I think you mean admin_level=5? ;-) On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 12:25 AM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:22 AM Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> wrote: > > The weird thing is the mixing of place and administrative entities which > > actually leads to the inversion issues, go back read your text and you > > will find it difficult to determine when you are talking about one or > > the other. > > You're right, and I should have referred to Hamlet, Village, Town, and > City - capitalized - when speaking of the political entities. (I > missed doing that.) > > We do *not* use the political organization in place=*. There's no > inversion in the place=* hierarchy. The City (capital C, the political > entity) of Sherrill, for instance is (or ought to be, I haven't > checked lately whether it's still right) mapped place=village. The > Hamlet (capital H) of Brentwood should be place=city or place=suburb - > I don't recall how far out the locals down that way decided to extend > suburbia in their mapping, and they're more qualified than I am to > make that decision. place=* is generally tagged on a point > representing the cultural/political center of the place - often near a > town square, post office, city hall, courthouse, railroad station or > similar identifiable "middle", not a geographic center. We don't tag > the boundary with place=*. > > There are some administrative entities (some suburban Towns come to > mind) that really are political divisions without identifiable > 'places' - and those just get boundary=administrative without a > corresponding place=* > > The only tagging that follows the legal designation of Hamlet, > Village, Town, City, and County or Borough is boundary=administrative. > The political organization is encoded in admin_level=*. There are some > corner cases in admin_level - but those mirror the messy structure of > our government. For example, the five Counties/Boroughs that make up > New York City have ceded their legislative powers (and most of their > executive powers as well) to the City, but retain an independent > judiciary. (We made up a sui generis admin_level=3 for New York City.) > > We do not invert place=*. If it's inverted, it's mistagged. We do > occasionally invert the topology of boundary=administrative, but that > reflects reality in that the way our municipal governments are > organized also inverts admin_level. Odd things happen when your form > of govenrment is ad-hoc-cracy. > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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