Re: [Tagging] Footway as painted lane in highway

2013-03-26 Thread Robert Elsenaar
I would do the same.  Met vriendelijke groeten Robert Elsenaar "Dave F." schreef: Hi I have a country lane where on one side has a dashed white line about 1.5m from the road edge & a walking person symbol painted on the surface. It has no adjacent raised kerb footpath. Wha

Re: [Tagging] associatedStreet

2011-03-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Jo, This correct. Also the terrasser plugin makes relations like that. Robert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 4:19 PM To: winfi...@gmail.com ; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] associatedStreet Hi Jo

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Metropolis

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Great idea to reactivate is again. New times, new ideas. I think capitals should be tagged to be Metropolis to also when they do not have enough inhibitans to be granted as one. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:11 PM To: T

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot)

2011-01-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
ert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: John Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:25 AM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot) On 18 January 2011 04:46, Robert Elsenaar wrote: * scuba_diving:filling=air;nitro

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Scuba diving (Shop or spot)

2011-01-17 Thread Robert Elsenaar
I have corrected some typo's last week I was pleased you used namespaces. That good. I want to make a suggestion to configure this a little different. * scuba_diving:filling=air;nitrox32;nitrox36;trimix;oxygen In that way to are prepared to future developments and also you don't have to cre

[Tagging] Main tags, values and sub tags

2011-01-13 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Since I updated the Dutch Feature Page I analyzed the tagging system and found out a typically evolution in the way OSM is tagging map objects. 1) =: Simple tagging system. Every new Tag has to be created. Every Tag and every value has to be documented. You vcan not be creative in making new co

Re: [Tagging] RFC: historic:civilization and historic:period Re:new key civilization

2011-01-13 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Certainly not like that. I will start a new thread to discuss this idea more in detail. I think there's nothing wrong when we try to standardize tags and have a moment of retagging when we have a 1:1 substitution. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: JohanJönsson Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Tagging] RFC: historic:civilization and historic:period Re: new key civilization

2011-01-12 Thread Robert Elsenaar
There is always a border where usefull meets unusefull. When mapmakers do not support object information on their maps, every extra information is useless. I think the period of a historic place is within the usefull information tags to a object. -Robert- From: Pieren Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: [Tagging] RFC: historic:civilization and historic:period Re: newkey civilization

2011-01-12 Thread Robert Elsenaar
historic:period can also be interprtated by historical periods in fine arts. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:40 PM To: j...@jfeldredge.com ; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [Tagging] RFC: historic:civil

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-10 Thread Robert Elsenaar
2011 10:16 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Dear Nathan, This replay seems to be a little off-topic, but I want to put it here anyway. Sinds I started this top

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-10 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Dear Nathan, This replay seems to be a little off-topic, but I want to put it here anyway. Sinds I started this topic it became clear that several people understands that there is a general problem with seperated cycleways not being part anymore of the main road. They mainly try to find a solu

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-09 Thread Robert Elsenaar
al\Panda%20Security\Panda%20Global%20Protection%202011\AntiSpam --- Am 09.01.2011 11:37, schrieb Robert Elsenaar: Ok, great. If that is the ultimate solution for all cycletracks. Can you help me with the r

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-09 Thread Robert Elsenaar
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Nathan Edgars II Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:54 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways Huh? If there's separation between the cycleway

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-08 Thread Robert Elsenaar
]: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Nathan Edgars II Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:54 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways Hu

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-08 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Please define seperation? -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Nathan Edgars II Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:54 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Drawing

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-08 Thread Robert Elsenaar
oblem. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Georg Feddern Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:00 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways Robert Elsenaar schrieb: Peter wrote: If you tag it as cycleway:both=track, it's more clear.

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-08 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Drawing seperated ways is a workaround for a “Not yet solvable” problem. By drawing a second way, what’s not there, is implicitely wrong. There is NO SECOND WAY so try not to draw it then. And yes I admit, I do use often the “second way solution” to solve complex situations or situations were I

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-08 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Peter wrote: If you tag it as cycleway:both=track, it's more clear. Yes you are right. But implicite we have accepted several default in our tags. E.g. we tag highway=residential and more precice would be highway:type=residential And we tag surface=asphalt and more precise would be highway:su

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-08 Thread Robert Elsenaar
ority for the cycle tracks at side roads, which is a distinct novelty for the UK!) Richard On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, All great thoughts. Peter i take your critisism on the right way. Still you didn't answer my call for help. Let go ba

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-07 Thread Robert Elsenaar
, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, All great thoughts. Peter i take your critisism on the right way. Still you didn't answer my call for help. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:33 PM, N

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-07 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Ladies and gentlemen, All great thoughts. Peter i take your critisism on the right way. Still you didn't answer my call for help. Let go back to the base of my question: cycleway=track = Who can give me examples on Google street view of what we have to concider to be cycleway-tracks?

Re: [Tagging] What is rtc_rate?

2011-01-06 Thread Robert Elsenaar
RTC is the abbriviation of Regional Transportation Commission. So the amout of money you have to pay for e.g. a bus ride. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Nathan Edgars II Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:59 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [Tagging]

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - deaddrop

2011-01-06 Thread Robert Elsenaar
No, not the latest virus. You can share your favorite virus. -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: j...@jfeldredge.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:20 PM To: OpenStreetMap tagging mailing list Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - deaddrop Sounds like a good way to c

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-06 Thread Robert Elsenaar
day, January 06, 2011 11:03 AM To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways Am 06.01.2011 01:05, schrieb Steve Bennett: On 6/01/2011 8:56 AM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Solution: highway=secundary name=Duinweg surface=asphalt maxspeed=50 cycleway=track cycleway:su

Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-05 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Koppenhoefer Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:02 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Differences in cycleways 2011/1/5 Robert Elsenaar : Looking on tags for cycleways I find 3 different types: highway=cycleway: obvious these are free ways like here cycleway=track

[Tagging] Differences in cycleways

2011-01-05 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Looking on tags for cycleways I find 3 different types: highway=cycleway: obvious these are free ways like here (http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=nl&ie=UTF8&ll=51.810446,5.173895&spn=0.00589,0.021136&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.810477,5.173954&panoid=AELkS3h8zmUs821tPi1K-w&cbp=12,36.33,,0,6.46) cycleway=la

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Plant Nursery

2011-01-03 Thread Robert Elsenaar
After how many votes your proposal is approved? -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Kenny Moens Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 5:13 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Plant Nursery Hello, Hereby I want to invite everyo

Re: [Tagging] Ultimate list of approved keys

2011-01-02 Thread Robert Elsenaar
used in the given cercomstances." -Robert- -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Colin Smale Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 7:52 PM To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Ultimate list of approved keys On 02/01/2011 19:24, Ralf Kleineisel wrote: On 01/02/2011 05:42

Re: [Tagging] Ultimate list of approved keys

2011-01-02 Thread Robert Elsenaar
: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Ultimate list of approved keys On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Hi, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features lists a certain portion of approved tags. - Why only a part of all approved tags are

Re: [Tagging] designated bike lane

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Elsenaar
"hazard:bicycle" is the other way round. If there is a key/value e.g. "hazard=narrow" then you can easily use "cycleway:hazard=narrow" to tag the fact that the hazard tag is specificly warns for a narrow cycle-lane. highway=* cycleway:right=lane cycleway:width=0.5 cycleway:hazard=narrow I thin

[Tagging] Ultimate list of approved keys

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Hi, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features lists a certain portion of approved tags. - Why only a part of all approved tags are mentioned here? - Where should I go to find the ultimate list of approved tags? -Robert- ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Why addr:state rather than is_in:state? (response to 2010-12-26 05:29:46)

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Elsenaar
tate rather than is_in:state? (response to 2010-12-26 05:29:46) On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Totally agree. More over, every time you use the symbol ":" in your tag, you mean that the subtag is telling something more specific about the maintag thats in

Re: [Tagging] Why addr:state rather than is_in:state? (response to 2010-12-26 05:29:46)

2010-12-31 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Totally agree. More over, every time you use the symbol ":" in your tag, you mean that the subtag is telling something more specific about the maintag thats in front of it. This methode should be introduced more widely all over OSM to avoid annoying new and unnesseccerry tags or values. Robert

Re: [Tagging] Operator in leisure=stadium?

2010-12-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/ Robert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Alan Mintz Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 6:46 AM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Operator in leisure=stadium? At 2010-12-18 12:47, Diego Woitasen wrote: I haven't found an o

Re: [Tagging] Operator in leisure=stadium?

2010-12-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Sounds well. No complains from my side. Robert Elsenaar -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Diego Woitasen Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:11 PM To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] Operator in leisure=stadium? Hi, What about using operator in leisure=stadium?. For example

Re: [Tagging] New tag?

2010-12-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
untry. If there's not? There is a nice job for you to do. And I can say that it's THE way to learn most of the tags. ;) Robert Elsenaar -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Diego Woitasen try to Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:14 PM To: Tag discussion, strategy and related to

[Tagging] Mapnik Software

2010-12-15 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Hi, We all know there lot of our maps are rendered with Mapnik. Does somebody knows if there is development going on on this software. Dows thsi software package evolve in supporting more complex situation in GeoData? Robert___ Tagging mailing list Ta

Re: [Tagging] Tags versus Maps

2010-12-14 Thread Robert Elsenaar
p.org/wiki/Mapnik. Under the header "stylesheet" there are details about rendering features described http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik#Stylesheet Willi On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: My name is ZMWandelaar (GB: SundayAfternoonHiker) and living in the Nethe

[Tagging] Tags versus Maps

2010-12-13 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Hi, My name is ZMWandelaar (GB: SundayAfternoonHiker) and living in the Netherlands. I’m starting May of this year. Quit active and wondering if there is some documentation about tags rendered on particular maps? Starting on the OSM Base Map what tags are displayed? Thanks ZMWandelaar ___