Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
iling list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging These other physical types of war memorials (plaques, statues, obelisks) are more common in the US than the walls with long lists of names. The Vietnam War Memorial is the first one in US history, to my knowledge,

Re: [Tagging] tagging two former church locations, with the same name but unrelated to each other

2017-09-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
One location is in operation, one is no longer physically present or operating but has a historical marker, and one (the original location of the operating church) is missing and has no physical evidence, even a sign, at the site. On September 30, 2017 12:19:31 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

[Tagging] tagging two former church locations, with the same name but unrelated to each other

2017-09-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
I would like to have some way to indicating the linkage. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. --- This email has been

Re: [Tagging] How to tag "agricultural centers"

2017-09-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
Here in Nashville, Tennessee, the state government has a large facility called Ellington Agricultural Center . It is not an agricultural-supply business such as you described, but rather the headquarters of the Tennessee Dept. of Agriculture, includin

Re: [Tagging] Elevation in Feet as part of Peak Names

2017-09-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, I doubt anyone in ordinary life refers to a mountain as "Mount So-and-So 2000 meters", rather than simply "Mount So-and-So". On September 8, 2017 8:36:52 AM Richard Welty wrote: On 9/8/17 7:08 AM, ael wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 03:31:37PM -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: User Raymo853

Re: [Tagging] Forestry/logging

2017-04-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
Just because a tract of land is being used for forestry doesn't mean it won't have streams on it, and low spots may have ponds. On April 10, 2017 2:36:20 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: landuse =forest. areas used to grow and log trees (a

Re: [Tagging] The direction=* tag

2017-03-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
This has the added complication that the way may have two-way traffic, but the sign doesn't apply to both directions. In fact, most signs don't apply to both sides of a roadway; instead, there will usually be a separate sign for both directions of travel. On March 19, 2017 2:56:02 PM yo pase

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
At least in American English, there is an intermediate term, pond, for a body of water smaller than a lake but larger than a mere wide spot in a stream. Ponds can be man-made or natural. On March 13, 2017 4:19:47 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-03-13 10:13 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow..

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Note that cities sometimes also include vacant lots that have not yet been built on, particularly around the outer edges. When I was a child, there was a vacant lot between our house and the next one, because the original landowner had chosen to buy two lots and build on just one of them. They

Re: [Tagging] Landuse for vacant lots

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Yes, that makes sense to me. Nashville, TN, where I live, has purchased some houses that were built in flood plains, demolished them, and doesn't allow anything to be built there now. The tag disused:landuse=residential seems like the logical one to use for those vacant lots. I suspect the foun

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
The services offered by post offices vary from country. Post offices in the US handle letters and packages, but don't offer any of the other services you mention. The main distinction in the USA is that "post office" conventionally refers only to offices of the United States Postal Service, whi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
We already have an "amenity=post_office" tag. I note that the wiki page for that tag includes an operator subtag, for if the post office is operated by a private company rather than a government agency. The United States Postal Service is quasi-governmental; the US Constitution calls for its e

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=courier

2017-03-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
Are you trying to map the location of an office of a courier service? Couriers themselves are people, and by the nature of their business have no fixed location. On March 8, 2017 3:32:23 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 08-Mar-17 08:42 PM, muzirian wrote: A company that transports

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
It is possible that the moderator has a backlog of messages, and hasn't reviewed it yet. On March 5, 2017 5:02:26 PM Thilo Haug wrote: There was an automatic reply, saying : "Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. [...] Either the message will get posted to the l

Re: [Tagging] Mapping freeway stub ends?

2017-03-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
March 2017 at 05:28, John F. Eldredge wrote: In some cases, the distinction between "abandoned" and "on indefinite hold" can be a bit blurry. One ring road here in Nashville, TN, USA was left in an incomplete state for about twenty years before the politicians finally allocate

Re: [Tagging] Mapping freeway stub ends?

2017-02-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
In some cases, the distinction between "abandoned" and "on indefinite hold" can be a bit blurry. One ring road here in Nashville, TN, USA was left in an incomplete state for about twenty years before the politicians finally allocated the money, and the last segment of the road was built. On

Re: [Tagging] A place where letters & parcels are sent to be sorted so they can be delivered?

2017-02-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
The sorting facility probably outgrew the building. In Nashville, TN, USA, where I live, the 1930s Main Post Office facility, next to a railway station, is now an art museum. The new Main Post Office facility is at least 20 times larger, and located near the main airport. It includes a small cu

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

2017-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the USA, those would commonly be referred to as a brush pile or brush row. They are commonly seen at the edge of a field that has recently been cleared of bushes and saplings. Sometimes they are left to decay in place, sometimes they are burned, and sometimes they are ground up by a wood-chi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power pole extension

2017-02-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
The RMS voltage of an alternating-current electrical source is the direct-current voltage that would supply the same power into a resistive load. That is to say, imagine you have an AC power source operating a heating element, and a DC power source operating an identical heating element. The DC

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

2017-02-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Well, I just learned a term I didn't know. I had assumed you were referring to a regular, planted hedge in which all of the bushes or trees had died. Yes, I suppose we do need a separate tag for a barrier composed of cut branches. On February 13, 2017 2:35:41 PM Marc Gemis wrote: Sorry, I

Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge

2017-02-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
Do we have any other cases where dead vegetation is tagged differently from living vegetation? On February 13, 2017 2:14:01 PM Marc Gemis wrote: How do you map a dead hedge? As barrier=hedge or barrier=fence with some appropriate fence_type e.g. dead_hedge ? m --

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Here in the USA, I have never seen a self-service laundry that did not have dryers, but I don't know whether that is true worldwide. I suppose it is best to err on the side of caution and include a subtag for the presence of dryers. On February 11, 2017 8:18:27 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrot

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
The beef in turn may be used to produce other food products. Since what leaves the feed lot is the living animal, which isn't rendered into beef until it reaches the slaughterhouse, I think produce=cattle or farmland=feedlot are the best solutions. On 02/08/2017 05:48 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
A breeding station is where animals are mated. This isn't normally done at a feedlot. Also, the generic term is "cattle", since you could also have heifers (young female cattle), bulls (adult male cattle), steers (castrated adult male cattle), or bullocks (young male cattle), in addition to c

Re: [Tagging] Notary Office

2017-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
Also, a lot of businesses serve as notaries, as a side-business. The closest notary public to my house is a company that rents out private mailboxes and sells shipping supplies. I have had several documents notarized there. On 02/07/2017 01:28 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/7/17 2:21 PM, Coli

Re: [Tagging] Exit list signs?

2017-01-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
As far as I know, a node does not have a direction, so "forward" or "backward" are meaningless. A way has a direction, a node does not. On January 21, 2017 3:48:33 PM yo paseopor wrote: I think Traffic sign is a NODE, IN the way, as I map stop,give way,or city limit. But putting a traffic si

Re: [Tagging] Roads with no speed limits

2016-09-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
One city street here in Nashville, TN, USA went several decades with no speed limit signs at all. Then, one day, it suddenly had "Speed Limit 30 MPH" signs every few hundred feet. My guess is that someone successfully argued their way out of a speeding ticket, stating that they weren't violat

Re: [Tagging] shop=marine RFC

2016-03-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the 19th century, a chandler was someone who made and sold candles, and so there were many chandlers who didn't deal in nautical supplies. When did the meaning shift? On March 14, 2016 6:50:22 AM Richard wrote: On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 07:20:46AM +, Malcolm Herring wrote: The common

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Discourage tourism=gallery

2016-02-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am dubious about tagging the artists that the gallery represents, since this is likely to change on a fairly frequent basis. My impression is that most exhibitions are only for a period of a week or two, meaning that the tag information would frequently be out of date. On 02/03/2016 02:52 P

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrapyards, junkyards

2016-01-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
The usual arrangement is that reasonably-intact vehicles are kept as a parts source for some period of time, then whatever is left is eventually sold to another facility that handles recycling of bulk scrap metal. Badly damaged vehicles may go immediately to the latter facility. Back in the 1

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

2016-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
The only "waste transfer stations" I am aware of in my area are companies that empty garbage from huge "dumpster" garbage bins at apartment complexes and businesses, then ship the garbage to landfills. Unlike a scrapyard, there is no long-term storage involved. On 01/20/2016 11:31 AM, Andy To

Re: [Tagging] Question reg. wheelchair mapping

2016-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
The width is important as well. I have been on footpaths that slanted downward across the face of a steep incline. The slope of the path was moderate, but the path was only about half a meter wide, with 45-degree slopes above and below the path. A person on foot could navigate the path (pref

Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations

2015-06-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
I see the occasional stain at a gas station that might be spilled gasoline, but it tends to be a few drops. I have occasionally had the filler hose drip a drop or two as I am replacing it on the pump. The only time I have ever encountered a large-scale spill was the time, years ago, that some

Re: [Tagging] RFD tag:shop=camera?

2015-06-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
Agreed. If you look at all of what I said, I was arguing that concerns about how many types of things could be rendered should not prevent detailed tagging. It is always possible to go from a complex data set to a simplified rendering; going from a simple data set to a complex rendering is fr

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

2015-05-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
Electric outlets that have a USB-style connector, for charging cell phones and other portable devices, are fairly new. I don't recall seeing any until about a year ago. So, there is not yet a common name for them, to distinguish them from conventional electric outlets that offer only 120V AC.

Re: [Tagging] Water featuers

2015-05-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
The water feature we are talking about here is an artificial waterfall, usually pump-driven. On May 22, 2015 9:19:44 AM "Richard Z." wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > > Am 22.05.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Andy Mabbett : > > > > These might be c

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

2015-05-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
> > > > > > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com (615) 299-

Re: [Tagging] "Pet Relief Areas"

2015-05-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
___ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeld

Re: [Tagging] Maxspeed

2015-05-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
cle. Go figure. > > > -------- > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles -> surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-12 Thread John F. Eldredge
In American usage, gravel refers to both rounded and unrounded stones of similar size. For example, concrete often makes use of crushed stone in the gravel size; it is angular rather than rounded. Pea gravel is often used as an ornamental surface layer for concrete, but not for use within a con

Re: [Tagging] shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Minor nitpick: desserts are sweet foods, usually eaten at the end of a meal. Deserts are areas with little rainfall, and sparse or no vegetation. On May 11, 2015 6:17:08 PM CDT, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >On 11/05/2015, Andreas Goss wrote: >>> Pastry-only shops are >>> quite rare. See also shop

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles -> surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
:26 PM CDT, "pmailkeey ." wrote: >On 11 May 2015 at 21:35, John F. Eldredge wrote: > >> Speaking as an American, I would refer to that as a mix of cobbles >and >> setts (some of the stones in the photo look rounded, some squared, >and some >> irregular). The

Re: [Tagging] shop=confectionery / pastry / candy / sweets

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the same way, there is a tradition of "boiled cookies" in the USA, that are on the borderline between cookies (biscuits, in British terminology) and candy. They involve a sticky, sweetened grain, most commonly oatmeal (rolled oats). Here is an example:

Re: [Tagging] HOT: potential Helicopter landings leisure=common

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
This is definitely something that needs a site survey. On May 11, 2015 6:00:29 AM CDT, "pmailkeey ." wrote: >There are a number of reasons we shouldn't tag random places as >potential >emergency helipads: > > - Ground conditions > - overhead obstructions >- don't think we're qualified to mak

Re: [Tagging] Tagging village sign

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the USA, such signs are more commonly at or near the edge of the community, so that you see what community you are entering, rather than at its center. Also, while some communities have a public square, not all do so. On May 8, 2015 4:50:37 AM CDT, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" wrote: >On

Re: [Tagging] surface=pebbles -> surface=pebblestone ?

2015-05-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
Speaking as an American, I would refer to that as a mix of cobbles and setts (some of the stones in the photo look rounded, some squared, and some irregular). They appear ti be about the size of a human palm. I think of pebbles as rocks of finger-diameter or less, such as the pea gravel often us

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
I am using K-9, an open-source Android app. On May 5, 2015 6:35:40 PM CDT, David Bannon wrote: >On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 18:22 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> It has been many years since I last went tent-camping, but my >> experience of campgrounds in the US national park syst

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

2015-05-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
It has been many years since I last went tent-camping, but my experience of campgrounds in the US national park system was numbered poles marking each campsite, a grassy area for pitching a tent, and a charcoal grill mounted on a steel pole. You weren't allowed to cut brush or to have a fire on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - opening hours default PH off

2015-04-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
tures? E.g. convenience shop vs an outdoor > ATM. > > > +1 > You would also have to define which public holidays, in the Uk > Christmas Day and Easter Sunday have restrictions, other public > holidays are at the businesses discretion and will vary from year to > year.

Re: [Tagging] addr:interpolation on highway

2015-04-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
be combined. > The question is what will hand mappers do with such tagging? > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Way inside riverbank

2015-04-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
In my experience, rivers, unlike harbors, generally don't have buoys or other markers showing the location of the navigational channel, probably because the flow would be likely to wash them away. On April 21, 2015 1:08:42 AM CDT, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:47 AM

Re: [Tagging] Way inside riverbank

2015-04-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
know the flow > direction, which I do consider important. > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Re: [Tagging] Straw pole Temperature=objective default unit?

2015-04-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
y. > No idea about other languages besides Italian, which is "broken" also > for many other symbols ;-) > > cheers > Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listi

Re: [Tagging] New values for entrance=

2015-04-08 Thread John F. Eldredge
____ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

Re: [Tagging] Micro- and macromapping with area=*

2015-03-31 Thread John F. Eldredge
oes not work like this, and we would > have to introduce a new key like managed=yes/no for this. > > cheers > Martin > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j

Re: [Tagging] Tagging method of amenities at camp_sites

2015-03-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
> > -- > Dave Swarthout > Homer, Alaska > Chiang Mai, Thailand > Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list >

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
l. I never set the shop=fashion > tag, > because it's just a useless synonym for shop=clothes. > > -- > Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ > Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
to use the oldest start date in cases where the building has > undergone several building phases, or maybe the most significant if > nothing of the oldest building can be seen) > > > cheers > Martin > ___ > Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
ist > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr.__

Re: [Tagging] Subject: Re: Deleting private objects in private spaces

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
What I mean is, does the software allow you to specify that only objects with access permitting the general public, or access=private with only specified values of the operator tag, be rendered? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light c

Re: [Tagging] Deleting private objects in private spaces

2015-03-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Does the default rendering on the slippy map on OSM's main page show private objects? If it does, then there is a loss of privacy. If it doesn't, then there is a loss of feedback to mappers. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only li

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges & abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
How does it "help mappers see what they have mapped" to not show a large structure which has been mapped and which is physically present? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only l

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges & abandoned railways

2015-03-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
If the bridges are still present, the map should render them even if the rails and railbeds on either side of the bridge have been removed. After all, we are supposed to map the ground truth, and if the bridge is still present, that is the ground truth. -- John F. Eldredge -- j

Re: [Tagging] Mapping private home toilets

2015-03-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
However, since someone apparently HAS been mapping private toilets, we need to either decide to remove them, or decide how they should be tagged to distinguish them from toilets available to the general public. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out dar

Re: [Tagging] route=foot

2015-03-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
Speaking from an American point of view, I tend to think of "hiking" as a wilderness, or at least rural, activity. In an urban setting, I would likely refer to "walking". -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-02-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
near future. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. On February 24, 2015 4:46:52 AM Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:59

Re: [Tagging] Canopy radius for natural=tree

2015-02-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
True. English usually has an adjective followed by a noun. I would guess that "diameter crown" was probably written by someone more familiar with a language where adjectives follow nouns. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only li

Re: [Tagging] tag for portages?

2015-02-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
I think the "wooden portages" he refers to are a series of wooden rollers one would roll the canoe along, to avoid having to carry the full weight. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values for key parking

2015-02-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
If the use of the vehicle storage is limited to certain people, such as residents of a particular neighborhood, use access tags as well. It then becomes the responsibility of the renderer to check these tags. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness;

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Given that both the multiple-path and single-path definitions are in use, the OSM definition of labyrinth should not exclude either one. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
acter : intricacy, perplexity 3 : a tortuous anatomical structure; especially : the internal ear or its bony or membranous part Something with only one possible route isn't complex in structure. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only li

Re: [Tagging] ?=maze

2015-02-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
Labyrinths aren't usually defined as having only one way through them. They normally have side passages, although, like other mazes, there may be only one path that will succeed in taking you all of the way to the exit. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-19 Thread John F. Eldredge
treetmap.org/listinfo/tagging It's lengthy, but the clearest of any of the alternatives I have seen. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." -- Martin Luthe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key:rubbish=

2015-02-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
ng@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org &g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - power_supply=intermittent

2015-02-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
nstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging If the power supply is given to frequent, unscheduled breakdowns, this is useful to know, but can't be covered by a schedule tag. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkn

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 11, 2015 6:16:39 PM CST, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/02/2015 10:25 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > > On February 11, 2015 3:59:45 PM CST, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 12/02/2015 3:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > &g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - temperature

2015-02-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
cost-effective to use a heat source such as an oil-burning or gas-burning furnace as the winter heat source. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."

Re: [Tagging] Access restrictions for shoulder lanes?

2015-02-09 Thread John F. Eldredge
st > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging According to <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-motorized_access_on_freeways>, 14 US states out of 50 allow bicycle use on Interstate highways. Wyoming is the only state that allows it state-wide. So, 72

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
ng the reception) deserves > just a single node. > > Cheers, > Kotya > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging I suspect what was meant was an amenity node contai

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
eetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Agreed. The amenity tag is better, as otherwise we would need a separate tag for each industry. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Reception Desk

2015-02-06 Thread John F. Eldredge
where the relation would be useful would be if you were mapping an office building, and wanted to map both the reception desk for the entire building, and also reception desks for individual office suites within that building. This is a common circumstance when a building contains offices f

Re: [Tagging] Wiki on amenity=waste_disposal Rewrite?

2015-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
ewage from chemical toilets on board recreational vehicles, and from man-portable chemical toilets (basically a bucket with a seat and a tight-fitting lid). These concrete chemical toilets you describe would be a facility of the campground, and a "honey truck" would come to them, rather

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On February 3, 2015 3:05:53 AM CST, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Feb 2, 2015 3:11 PM, "Clifford Snow" > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:54 PM, John F. Eldredge > > wrote: > >> > >> Once again, we are divided by a common langua

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Ablution is cleaning oneself. Abolition is abolishing (ending) some practice, such as abolishing slavery. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-02 Thread John F. Eldredge
rg > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Once again, we are divided by a common language. In American usage, a cistern is a holding tank for captured rain water, used as an alternative to a well in areas where no city water supply is available. They often take the form of an undergroun

Re: [Tagging] Lifecycle concepts, "REMOVED"

2015-01-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
> > Andy > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Well, you also have the status "proposed, but no start date set", which would fit some sub

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Roman Catholic sense of no-longer-living humans who serve as intermediaries between living humans and God. We colloquially refer to some of the early church leaders as saints, referring to Saint Peter or Saint Paul, but feel that prayers should be directed to God, not to any lesser being. -- J

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

2015-01-25 Thread John F. Eldredge
ead of a watch, and found it less convenient to pull out my phone to check the time, versus glancing at my wrist. It is still common to see people wearing watches. I now wear a smartwatch, meaning that I can check who called or texted me without having to pull out and unlock my phone. -- John F.

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
de ban. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging Agreed. Ad hominem attacks aren't a suitable way to discuss OSM issues. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do t

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-01-22 Thread John F. Eldredge
a battery-powered heater and a reservoir of nicotine-containing liquid. Some are designed to be thrown away once the battery power and/or liquid are used up, others can have both the battery and liquid replaced. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out dark

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

2015-01-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
ently built upon it, but which is intended for later construction, does it have a house number? Or is the address only assigned once a building is built? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only

Re: [Tagging] Tagging road illumination quality

2015-01-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
You could use a light meter to measure how bright the light is. That isn't the only factor in the suitability of the lighting, but it is objective. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; onl

Re: [Tagging] waterway=wadi problem

2015-01-15 Thread John F. Eldredge
s the same, only the frequency of rainfall is different. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On January 15, 2015 3:13:38 AM Christoph

Re: [Tagging] Boundary Relations. What's a subarea used for?

2015-01-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
In the same manner, in some US states, cities and towns are subordinate to counties. In some other US states, such as Virginia, towns are subordinate to counties but cities are on the same administrative level as counties. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot driv

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

2015-01-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
3 17:48 GMT+01:00 Richard Fairhurst : > John F. Eldredge wrote: > > That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because > > it has a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't > > be used elsewhere in the world. > > Absolutely - th

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and, terminal without building tag

2015-01-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
The situation in India could mean that a congregation was meeting on that site, and planned to construct a building there, but had not yet done so. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only lov

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

2015-01-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
That is how I had interpreted access=destination also. Just because it has a specific legal meaning in the UK doesn't mean the tag can't be used elsewhere in the world. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hat

Re: [Tagging] lanes=-1 especially in Canada

2014-12-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 12/30/2014 03:16 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: On 12/29/2014 04:16 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I rolled the map-roulette wheel, and found a series of highways in Canada marked with "lanes=-1", all part of a CANVEC import. I see 17,943 uses of this value: it's less popular than 5

Re: [Tagging] lanes=-1 especially in Canada

2014-12-30 Thread John F. Eldredge
re one vehicle can pause to allow a vehicle going the other direction to pass by. Given how sparsely-populated some of the northern regions of Canada are, I would not be surprised to find some one-lane roads, and some extensive areas with no roads at all. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredg

Re: [Tagging] Moveable objects tagged as building=*

2014-12-16 Thread John F. Eldredge
tern Oregon) park 'em once, then use them until they > rot > and collapse 4 decades later. > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com &q

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