Re: [sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-04-06 Thread bf
97132 (503) 538-4897 www.bf.org <http://www.bf.org/> b...@bf.org <mailto:b...@bf.org> Networking to move Scripture to hungry hearts. From: sword-devel On Behalf Of Chris Bartkowski Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 5:13 AM To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Bib

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-04-01 Thread David Haslam
You can read more about Robert Murray M’Cheyne (1813-43) at https://mcheyne.info/ cf. My original website with pages on M’Cheyne was started in January 1996 but closed in 2011 when Sky shutdown UK Online. The above site replaced it. The old one still can be found on the Internet Archive Wayback

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-04-01 Thread Chris Bartkowski
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 12:00 PM wrote: > > Hey guys. Do any of you have a strategy for reading the Bible in a year. > > And also for listening to the daily reading? > > I have a friend asking for an app which allows him to listen to the Bible > in a year. > > He said that he previously had an ap

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-03-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
We have a bunch of daily devotionals which are in essence Bible reading plans. And several of our front ends have voice AndBible is the best on Android on that particular front. I would think bishop on Android could easily do the same (feeding text into Android voice engine) Sent from my pho

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-03-23 Thread Fred
I just did a search (in duckduckgo, not google) for "daily audio bible" which turned up a whole screenful of hits. You might find something there. Fred On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 8:19 AM David Haslam wrote: > I make use of the MCheyne daily reading plan module which can be > downloaded from the Xi

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-03-23 Thread David Haslam
I make use of the MCheyne daily reading plan module which can be downloaded from the Xiphos repository. Learn more about its origins and author by visiting https://mcheyne.info/ I’m not aware of an audio version. David Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 10:10, Troy A. Griff

[sword-devel] Bible in a year audio

2023-03-23 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hey guys. Do any of you have a strategy for reading the Bible in a year. And also for listening to the daily reading? I have a friend asking for an app which allows him to listen to the Bible in a year. He said that he previously had an app which each day gave an OT passage, a Psalm, and an NT

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Desktop not displaying in some Linux Window Managers

2022-03-31 Thread Gary Bennett
Hi Michael, I ran Bible Desktop through xterm in both dwm and QTile and there is no apparent difference between the output messages in the xterm sessions. Regards, Gary On 1/4/22 11:14, Michael H wrote: What happens when you start the program from within an xterminal in dwm?  What is the err

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Desktop not displaying in some Linux Window Managers

2022-03-31 Thread Michael H
What happens when you start the program from within an xterminal in dwm? What is the error if any? It should at least point you to whether the conflict is between BD and dwm or java and dwm. On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 7:07 PM Gary Bennett wrote: > Hello, > > I currently have Bible Desktop/jsword 1.

[sword-devel] Bible Desktop not displaying in some Linux Window Managers

2022-03-31 Thread Gary Bennett
Hello, I currently have Bible Desktop/jsword 1.6 installed on a Linux machine running an up-to-date Arch distro with the dwm window manager. I use Bible Desktop only occasionally but appreciate the simplicity of the interface. The problem is that Bible Desktop doesn't work under dwm. All I e

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Study App 4.0 has been released!

2021-10-03 Thread Tuomas Airaksinen
Thank you! Andrew should answer this, I honestly don't know. Not sure if he follows this list, will include him in this reply. On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 21:15 Tobias Klein wrote: > Tuomas and Team - well done! > > What toolset did you guys use for the tutorial videos? I really like them! > > Best reg

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Study App 4.0 has been released!

2021-10-02 Thread Tobias Klein
Tuomas and Team - well done! What toolset did you guys use for the tutorial videos? I really like them! Best regards, Tobias On 10/2/21 8:33 AM, Tuomas Airaksinen wrote: (Permanent URL to press release document)

[sword-devel] Bible Study App 4.0 has been released!

2021-10-01 Thread Tuomas Airaksinen
(Permanent URL to press release document) Bible Study App 4.0 has been released! New version of Bible Study App by And Bible Open Source Project has been released and is now available in Pla

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Basic English

2020-03-07 Thread jhphx
It may have been published at one time with copyright notice and another without. The Public Domain claim was suppose to be due to a 1965 publication of it. Find such a copy without copyright and that would establish that it then went out of copyright in the US. That is my understanding but I c

[sword-devel] Bible in Basic English

2020-03-07 Thread Michael H
Is there documentation anywhere about the specific claim that the Bible in Basic English is in the Public Domain? As of November 2019, the Wikipedia article on Bible in Basic English claims the work is copyrighted. It appears it was created by an editor within Wikipedia, which amounts to creating

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-16 Thread David Haslam
Cyrille writes, "Do you know which mark?" I've yet to do the more detailed analysis, but these 3 are initial candidates: U+1038 း 7,959 MYANMAR SIGN VISARGA U+104A ၊ 601 MYANMAR SIGN LITTLE SECTION U+104B ။ 1,489 MYANMAR SIGN SECTION But as I observed before, where each verse ends requires more

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread Cyrille
Il 15/05/2019 19:18, David Haslam ha scritto: > Each of the last 1 or 2 characters of each verse is a regular Myanmar > punctuation mark. > Do you know wich mark? > We need to be careful how we apply this.  There may well be > some exceptions. > > Windows users should install BabelPad. This free

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Each of the last 1 or 2 characters of each verse is a regular Myanmar punctuation mark. We need to be careful how we apply this. There may well be some exceptions. Windows users should install BabelPad. This free Unicode text editor is highly recommended. http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread Cyrille
I have not understood everything yet ... But I trust you. But if you have the courage to explain to me I want to learn :) What I don't understand is how you can find the marker of each verse and chapter in the utf8 text? What is this marker in question? Il 15/05/2019 19:03, David Haslam ha scritto

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Michael’s description matches how I imagined the method during my waking moments this morning. :) David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 17:33, Michael H wrote: > I've been working long hours and emailing in my break time. David has the > basics of converting to VPL. > >

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread Michael H
I've been working long hours and emailing in my break time. David has the basics of converting to VPL. I would then make the entire work a column in a spreadsheet. Then in other collumns insert a list of Book/chapter/verse in order. The BCV and versetext columns should align and can be verifie

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
The attachment contains a counted list of Myanmar words containing a font conversion error. NB. We need to match these words with what they are in the legacy font. This issue should be discussed with the current maintainer of the SIL TECkit converter, whoever that may be. It may be worthwhile a

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Observations: (continued) 5. The string "Kd;" also looks anomalous. It's found only once in ကိုယ်တော်၏ဦးခေါင်းတော်အပေါ်၌ လည်း ဤသူသည်ကား ဂျူးလူမျ Kd;တို့၏ဘုရင်၊ 6. It's evident from the PDF file that the text is paragraphed with indented first lines. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/do5e675i19xfomf/

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Observations: (continued) 4. In addition to the reported instances of the anomalous 3 characters (È,Ø,ò) found after the font conversion, there are 6 instances of the string "m;" that are also probably due to bugs in the converter. Best regards, David Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Yep - sure - later I can do that. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:26, Cyrille wrote: > David I have no count in box, and I want not to create one. Can you push on > https://framadrop.org/ it's totally free and secure (and private). > Thank you. > > Il 15/05/2019

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Cyrille writes: “My question is, can you do something with the txt file for adding the verse number?” Well - yes - that’s my intention. It was after all an “interim progress report”. ;) David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:24, Cyrille wrote: > Il 15/05/2019 11:46, D

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread Cyrille
David I have no count in box, and I want not to create one. Can you push on https://framadrop.org/ it's totally free and secure (and private). Thank  you. Il 15/05/2019 11:46, David Haslam ha scritto: > Interim progress report. > > I downloaded the file Mat_utf8.zip from Cyrille's link and unzippe

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread Cyrille
Il 15/05/2019 11:46, David Haslam ha scritto: > Interim progress report. > > I downloaded the file Mat_utf8.zip from Cyrille's link and unzipped the > contents to Mat_utf8-odt > > I opened the .odt file using 7-Zip from the Windows Explorer context menu, > and extracted the file contents.xml >

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread Cyrille
Sorry I was occupied! Il 15/05/2019 02:34, Michael H ha scritto: > I don't read Burmese and I don't know anyone who does. I was > suggesting you contact whoever provided you the files and permission, > and ask them if they can verify the unicode text reads correctly. > I did it, and the conversion

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-15 Thread David Haslam
Interim progress report. I downloaded the file Mat_utf8.zip from Cyrille's link and unzipped the contents to Mat_utf8-odt I opened the .odt file using 7-Zip from the Windows Explorer context menu, and extracted the file contents.xml I used Notepad++ plug-in XMLTools to pretty print the XML fil

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread David Haslam
If the language is ordinary Burmese, we can use Google Translate to check that any particular verse has text that we should expect for the initially assigned reference. Machine translation is often adequate for such a limited purpose task. We can also check against how PageMaker rendered it to

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Michael H
If the text doesn't come from an active team with people who read Burmese: I am on another group list which has relationships with people working on minority languages related to Burmese, but not Myanmarese. I can ask if anyone can verify the unicode conversion works there if that's the only option

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Michael H
I don't read Burmese and I don't know anyone who does. I was suggesting you contact whoever provided you the files and permission, and ask them if they can verify the unicode text reads correctly. To a native speaker, the text will quickly be recognized as readable, or misspelled (letters are out

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Cyrille
Il 14/05/2019 22:48, Michael H ha scritto: > You should be able to configure a regex search to find the verse > boundaries. > > Once you have verse boundaries, if you configure the text into Verse > per line it should be possible to assign each row a chapter and verse > number from a reference. T

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Cyrille
Il 14/05/2019 22:55, Cyrille ha scritto: > > > Il 14/05/2019 22:45, Michael H ha scritto: >> Cyrille, did you start from the PDF or the pagemaker file? > PMaker >> Either way, you should send a snippet to your source and validate the >> words are still readable. As small as 30 words should be eno

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Michael H
You should be able to configure a regex search to find the verse boundaries. Once you have verse boundaries, if you configure the text into Verse per line it should be possible to assign each row a chapter and verse number from a reference. That is, the 3341 verse in the New Testament is usually J

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Michael H
Cyrille, did you start from the PDF or the pagemaker file? Either way, you should send a snippet to your source and validate the words are still readable. As small as 30 words should be enough. On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:09 AM Cyrille wrote: > I send my message again because it was bigger. > > Th

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Cyrille
Il 14/05/2019 22:26, David Haslam ha scritto: > If Michael’s observations are anything to go by, then maybe I can > script the recovery of chapter & verse tags.  > > We shall see > > Even if I’m not immediately successful - valuable lessons can be > learned in the attempt. Very, well, I'll w

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread David Haslam
If Michael’s observations are anything to go by, then maybe I can script the recovery of chapter & verse tags. We shall see Even if I’m not immediately successful - valuable lessons can be learned in the attempt. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 21:21, Cyrille

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Cyrille
Ok thank you!  I have already all the text in unicode but without the verse numbers and chapters... I begun manually... Il 14/05/2019 22:17, David Haslam ha scritto: > Hi Cyrille  > > If I can find the time tomorrow or later, I’ll have a look at what > might be feasible.  > > Thanks for all these

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread David Haslam
Hi Cyrille If I can find the time tomorrow or later, I’ll have a look at what might be feasible. Thanks for all these useful links. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 14:08, Cyrille wrote: > I send my message again because it was bigger. > > The conversion to UTF-8 is

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread David Haslam
The ThanLwinSoft software was indeed developed by Keith Stribley (1976-2011). Screenshot posted to my Facebook timeline. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10213794210749822&id=1243443528 We had exchanged emails during the year before he died. Best regards David Sent from ProtonMail

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Cyrille
I send my message again because it was bigger. The conversion to UTF-8 is 99% solved!! I used a online converter: https://thanlwinsoft.github.io/www.thanlwinsoft.org/ThanLwinSoft/MyanmarUnicode/Conversion/myanmarConverter.html or: http://burglish.my-mm.org/latest/trunk/web/fontconv.htm See the re

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Michael H
Cyrille, (Peter), Maybe further discussion on this belongs in Gitlab as issues. Can I get added to this project? Here are the first few lines of Matthew copied from the PDF: -- &Sifrmaw;OD; {0Ha*vdusrf; The Gospel According to Matthew ed'gef; usr;f ûyy*k Kd¾v f &iS rf maw;O;D \b0rwS wf r;f u

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-14 Thread Cyrille
Yesterday I thought, if a pdf tool give the possibility to cut the pdf in the middle, then the raw conversion to txt can be possible, the we only need to convert it to UTF8. Any idea? Il 13/05/2019 17:40, Michael H ha scritto: > I unzipped the pagemaker file, and when I open NT_Proverb/Pagemaker >

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Michael H
I unzipped the pagemaker file, and when I open NT_Proverb/Pagemaker (10.1mb), with a Hex editor, I can 'find' all of the book names, and see the text there. To see the raw text: rename NT_Proverb.pmd > NT_Proverb.zip and open it with a zip archive progeram. The text is in the Pagemaker file at th

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Cyrille
David, Probably you are right about TECkit , if we get the text it will help us to convert in UNICODE. About how to get the text, your method is out of my skills :) I you succeed please let me know. Il 13/05/2019 16:21, David

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread David Haslam
Given the insights from Michael Hart, it may be feasible to temporarily rearrange the main text stream as follows : 1. Replace every EOL by a horizontal tab. 2. Insert an EOL after each verse end character. Observe that the above two steps are wholly reversible such that the original text strea

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Cyrille
Thank you Michael for your help! Let me know if you succeed to do something. Il 13/05/2019 15:57, Michael H ha scritto: > Cyrille > > LibreOffice Draw attempts to open the pagemaker file, with limited > success. But it confirms that even in the pagemaker source, the verse > numbers are a separate

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Michael H
Cyrille LibreOffice Draw attempts to open the pagemaker file, with limited success. But it confirms that even in the pagemaker source, the verse numbers are a separate text stream. With this source, there is no way to copy the text with verse numbers intact. It appears to be stored with each book

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Cyrille
Il 13/05/2019 11:26, David Haslam ha scritto: > Last resort would be to reverse engineer a mapping table for the > legacy Myanmar font. Yes this is a good idea I think also to it even I can't do it. But First how to get the text... > > I once did a similar task for Times New Armenian.  > > David

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread David Haslam
Last resort would be to reverse engineer a mapping table for the legacy Myanmar font. I once did a similar task for Times New Armenian. David Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 10:10, Cyrille wrote: > Yes I found also this site, I made some test quickly, but the font used in

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Cyrille
Il 13/05/2019 11:10, David Haslam ha scritto: > It’s bad enough when a typeset Bible has free floating margin notes > and xrefs instead of them being tied to tagged words.  > > When the verse tags are also relegated to the column side margins, > it’s seldom a simple task to reverse engineer.  > >

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread David Haslam
It’s bad enough when a typeset Bible has free floating margin notes and xrefs instead of them being tied to tagged words. When the verse tags are also relegated to the column side margins, it’s seldom a simple task to reverse engineer. Ask if they have a revision controlled set of files that ar

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Cyrille
Yes I found also this site, I made some test quickly, but the font used in this bible seems to be an other. But first I need to get the text ;) You can found everything (if someone want to help) here: - Burmese_NT_Proverbs.pdf : https://framadrop.org/r/WYr7JpID2z#ZKKf1kToMWvyeDBOd3bv1aSzphfqAa+sZfl

Re: [sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread David Haslam
First just the conversion of the legacy font to Unicode, I’d like to think this could be done with TECkit http://my.duniakitab.com/ThanLwinSoft/ThanLwinSoft/MyanmarUnicode/Conversion/TECkit.php Looks like the old website of the late Keith Stribley has been rescued from oblivion. IIRC, he died

[sword-devel] Bible in Myanmar

2019-05-13 Thread Cyrille
Hello, I recently receive a modern translation of Myanmar of the NT, Psalms and Proverbs with permission to create a new module. But the problems are many... Firs to get the text. I tested different way, but it's done with PageMaker! I can get the text but the problem is I don't have the verses num

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Translation Plautdietsch

2019-02-05 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
12:07 Uhr Von: "Timmy" An: sword-devel@crosswire.org Betreff: [sword-devel] Bible Translation Plautdietsch Good day friends, I am new in this group and I have a question about getting another translation available as a SWORD module. My native language is Plautdietsch, we call it &

[sword-devel] Bible Translation Plautdietsch

2019-02-05 Thread Timmy
Good day friends, I am new in this group and I have a question about getting another translation available as a SWORD module. My native language is Plautdietsch, we call it "Low German" when speaking in English, and there is a Bible version in this language already, joint published by Kindred Pro

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book names in Latvian

2018-06-18 Thread Cyrille
Hello Maris, I'm surprise with your question because I have already the Latvian translation .conf file on xiphos with sword 1.8, and all books are shown in Latvian. Which version of sword are you using? I send you the file, maybe it can be performed :) Le 17/06/2018 à 20:12, Maris a écrit : > Hey

[sword-devel] Bible book names in Latvian

2018-06-17 Thread Maris
Hey all I have translated Bible book names in to Latvian language - edited .conf file. When I completely copy all info from other language the Bibletime works fine. After change text to Latvian, Bibletime shows only book names from new testament. For example Lithuanian "Genesis=Pradžios" if I c

Re: [sword-devel] Bible Markup

2017-01-29 Thread David Haslam
Hi David, I can't comment on these lemma requirements due to lack of detailed background knowledge, but it looks as though you're moving in the right direction. I am fairly sure that you only need to use ... within those words that have actual division slashes. When you have a module ostensibly

[sword-devel] Bible Markup

2017-01-29 Thread David Troidl
Hello, I am in the process of updating the OSHB module. I have a valid OSIS file of the text, but I have a few questions about markup for effective display in SWORD. 1. I have lemmas of the form lemma="c/d/776" and lemma="5921 a", where the c/d encodes the prefixes on the word, the numbers

Re: [sword-devel] Bible submission process question

2016-03-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
No, we would not recommend Haiola over CrossWire tools. Fwiw we have a fairly automatic process now to push a module through. Email me off list please. Peter On 4 March 2016 03:04:35 GMT+00:00, Russell Allen wrote: >Hi, >It’s more a case of converging evolution - my code started being very >c

Re: [sword-devel] Bible submission process question

2016-03-03 Thread Russell Allen
Hi, It’s more a case of converging evolution - my code started being very customised for the OEB when there wasn’t a clear alternative and has become more general over time. The initial focus was PDF (via ConTeXt) and a now obsolete version of John Dyer’s study software but it was extensible so

Re: [sword-devel] Bible submission process question

2016-03-03 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Hello, Russell. It sounds like you are on your way to duplicating the capabilities of Haiola. Haiola reads USFM and spits out Crosswire Sword modules, WordML, HTML, InScript, ePub, Amazon Kindle Mobi (created from the ePub with an Amazon program), PDF

[sword-devel] Bible submission process question

2016-03-03 Thread Russell Allen
Hi guys, Sorry if this is the wrong place. There is an old version of the Open English Bible on the website which needs updating. Someone helped me creating the modules a few years back. I’m currently trying to automate building the OEB as much as possible so that we can put out more regular up

Re: [sword-devel] Bible modules in JIRA? Module maintainers?

2015-12-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-12-10, 11:42 GMT, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > 2) Chris has been snowed under by his thesis for the last year > or so. So anyone wanting to take a module or a bug forward > please do so. All assignments are in essence defaults which > can be changed. I just now reassigned one Czeck bug to

Re: [sword-devel] Bible modules in JIRA? Module maintainers?

2015-12-10 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
det: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015 um 10:46 Uhr > Von: "Matěj Cepl" > An: sword-devel@crosswire.org > Betreff: [sword-devel] Bible modules in JIRA? Module maintainers? > > Hi, > > could I suggest a bit of reorganization of JIRA? We have > currently one project Mo

[sword-devel] Bible modules in JIRA? Module maintainers?

2015-12-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Hi, could I suggest a bit of reorganization of JIRA? We have currently one project Modules with three components: Encoding problem, Module creation, Text Problem, No Component. I would think it would be a way more interesting, if the Modules project has as its components individual modules (e.

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-05 Thread Mark Trompell
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Костя Маслюк wrote: > 05.06.2013 5:32 пользователь "Nic Carter" написал: > > >> I guess we need to have some sort of implementation with which to try this >> out with. I remember that trying to create a cLucene search index on my old >> iPhone 3G was sufficiently

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-05 Thread Костя Маслюк
05.06.2013 5:32 пользователь "Nic Carter" написал: > I guess we need to have some sort of implementation with which to try this out with. I remember that trying to create a cLucene search index on my old iPhone 3G was sufficiently silly that I removed that functionality in PS. But I needed to test

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-04 Thread Nic Carter
On 03/06/2013, at 11:02 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Of course, this type of behavior adapted to Scope is fine on a desktop or > even a netbook or most tablets. But it's unacceptable for a truly low-powered > device. I guess we need to have some sort of implementation with which to try this out

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-04 Thread David Haslam
*Colophons* - some further background information. I recently purchased the AV Bible (KJV) edition published by the *Trinitarian Bible Society*. Notably absent are the colophons for the [Pauline] Epistles. Philip Hopkins of TBS has written a position paper on this subject, which is available fro

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread David Instone-Brewer
Agreed - they are in many Greek texts, though absent from those which are regarded as earlier texts. As a result, most modern versions omit them - including the New King James! They shouldn't be treated like Red letter or Section titles, because they are part of the text, and if they are include

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread DM Smith
Note, the colophons in the KJV are from the underlying Greek text. In Him, DM On Jun 3, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Chris Burrell wrote: > For clarity, my use case is as follows. > > I have a menu displaying options such as Verse numbers, Headings, Verses on > New Lines, Red letters. I'd like

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:06 AM, DM Smith wrote: > > It is far more than 70. Every chapter can have an introduction. To see if a > module one would have to check every verse 0 for text content. It is not > sufficient to see if it h

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:06 AM, DM Smith wrote: > > It is far more than 70. Every chapter can have an introduction. To see if > a module one would have to check every verse 0 for text content. It is not > sufficient to see if it has content. It may only have structural content. > So that means i

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread DM Smith
My reply to Chris L's post was a bit snide. Sorry. (I actually don't have a problem with NoParagraphs as a feature, but would rather discuss it here first.) Regarding Scope. Most of our front-ends (SWORD and JSword) present modules that only contain the NT as if they have an OT as well. Fortunat

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Chris Burrell wrote: > I thought of that - but then that means that low powered devices, or devices > with large numbers of modules have to scan every part of every module on > installation of the mod

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Chris Burrell wrote: > I thought of that - but then that means that low powered devices, or > devices with large numbers of modules have to scan every part of every > module on installation of the module while they do their discovery process. > > The Scope was rela

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Chris Burrell
In terms of missing out a line in the conf file, then presumably one would simply fix it. In fact, that's where this thread originated from, as suddenly unexpected introductions started appearing and appeared as other canonical content. I had the same issue previously with colophons, which were app

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I don't recall ever hearing of "NoParagraphs". But I am old now and quite possibly could have forgotten. The push back on my side of this is from the desire to: a) keep the .conf generation only as complex as needed, and b) avoid the possibilities for inconsistencies. SWORD accumulates toggle

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
SWORD support augmenting .conf entries specifically for this purpose. See: SWConfig::augment(SWConfig &addFrom); So, e.g., SWMgr library; library.config->augment("./localOptions.conf"); Would add all user preferences or desired precomputed software properties to the global module library co

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:16 AM, DM Smith wrote: > I'm thinking of having a "sidecar" conf for a module. Right now when a > user wants to save certain settings for a module, we (JSword) modify the > conf. (I.e. CipherKey and Font). > > This could then be used to save anything a front end discovers

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread DM Smith
I saw that Scope was yanked from the wiki with a comment that it had been rejected. I really don't remember it being rejected. I just remember that the discussion never went anywhere so it was dropped. I documented the desire of that discussion by putting an entry into the wiki. Even if engine s

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Chris Burrell
I thought of that - but then that means that low powered devices, or devices with large numbers of modules have to scan every part of every module on installation of the module while they do their discovery process. The Scope was related to Copyright & Distribution, but I'm not sure a discovery ap

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread DM Smith
I'm thinking of having a "sidecar" conf for a module. Right now when a user wants to save certain settings for a module, we (JSword) modify the conf. (I.e. CipherKey and Font). This could then be used to save anything a front end discovers and does not want to discover a second time. Such as Sc

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Chris Burrell
I was simply suggesting a flag to indicate this on a whole module-level, one that wouldn't require reading any of the module contents at all. In other words, a flag of "true", or the presence of an entry in the module configuration would indicate that somewhere in the module there is an introductio

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Nic Carter
I think (& I hope?) what is being proposed is a method in Sword that will check any book of the Bible to see if it is empty or not. This will ultimately be very fast, as it may need to test a large number of verses? This same method should be able to be adapted to live-test introductions for bo

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-03 Thread Chris Burrell
For clarity, my use case is as follows. I have a menu displaying options such as Verse numbers, Headings, Verses on New Lines, Red letters. I'd like to add an option called Introductions (and perhaps one called Colophon). The options in this menu are grayed out when the underlying module doesn't

Re: [sword-devel] Bible translations for languages in which a punctuation mark is used as a letter of the alphabet?

2013-06-03 Thread David Haslam
Not so easy to investigate it in SWORD /before/ such a module is created. It was more of an anticipatory enquiry, to ascertain what is already known of the subject among other CrossWire developers. Knowing what potential pitfalls might ensue is to be better prepared. Background = preliminary dis

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Burrell
One could apply your reasoning for every option we have in the Conf file so far. Headings, notes, cross references, strongs, morphology... A verse or chapter is not guaranteed to contain any of these. You still need to check for non empty cross references for example if your frontend is displaying

Re: [sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Little
On 6/2/2013 9:23 AM, Chris Burrell wrote: Hi Some books have Bible introductions. Can I suggest adding a flag to the conf file to indicate this is the case? In the similar mindset as a previous post, I'd prefer being able to query the conf file for features of a particular module rather than hav

Re: [sword-devel] Bible translations for languages in which a punctuation mark is used as a letter of the alphabet?

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Little
On 6/2/2013 7:44 AM, David Haslam wrote: Some alphabets make use of a character that in other languages is normally classed as a punctuation mark. Examples are many, but here's a verse in *Tongan*, a language where the *ʻ (fakauʻa)* occurs very frequently as the character for a glottal stop. Thi

[sword-devel] Bible book introductions

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Some books have Bible introductions. Can I suggest adding a flag to the conf file to indicate this is the case? In the similar mindset as a previous post, I'd prefer being able to query the conf file for features of a particular module rather than having to read part of the module and hope for

[sword-devel] Bible translations for languages in which a punctuation mark is used as a letter of the alphabet?

2013-06-02 Thread David Haslam
Some alphabets make use of a character that in other languages is normally classed as a punctuation mark. Examples are many, but here's a verse in *Tongan*, a language where the *ʻ (fakauʻa)* occurs very frequently as the character for a glottal stop. This should be written with the modifier lette

[sword-devel] Bible Louis Segond with Strongs

2013-04-20 Thread lizeuleric
Hi GentsI am new on this forum and first I send to everybody a "Hello"I hope to learn many things from you all. My concern trough this first post is , to find out where I can download the " Bible Louis Segond with Strongs"in French.I thanks in advance for your helpGod bless you -- View this mess

Re: [sword-devel] Bible/Commentary headings

2010-12-01 Thread Greg Hellings
That appears to have done it. Thanks. --Greg On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Ben Morgan wrote: > Maybe swapping the order of chapter and verse around may help? The code I > remember does some special handling of zeroes, but I can't check it at the > moment. > e.g. >        vkey->Verse(0); >    

Re: [sword-devel] Bible/Commentary headings

2010-12-01 Thread Ben Morgan
Maybe swapping the order of chapter and verse around may help? The code I remember does some special handling of zeroes, but I can't check it at the moment. e.g. vkey->Verse(0); vkey->Chapter(0); to vkey->Chapter(0); vkey->Verse(0); God Bless, Ben --

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