Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

Le 30/08/2023 à 14:10, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : Here is a report which summarizes the outcome of the last Satellites conference  [https://www.microwavejournal.com/articles/39841-satellite-2023-summary-linking-up] The report highlights the two main hurdles against the integratio

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

Not sure what it means? Alex On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:57 PM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 30/08/2023 à 14:10, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : > Here is a report which summarizes the outcome of the last Satellites > conference &g

Re: [Starlink] a puzzling starlink uplink trace

Le 30/08/2023 à 20:07, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : In the attached 5 minute plot from a few days ago (I can supply the flent.gz files if anyone wants them), I see a puzzling spike at T+155s to nearly 90ms of baseline latency, then down to 20ms. 20ms? A latency of 20ms might come if these

Re: [Starlink] a puzzling starlink uplink trace

lower altitudes would give. If one reports a great ms latency then it would be great to tell which sat at which altitude was there above at that timestamp. Alex Le 31/08/2023 à 10:56, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 30/08/2023 à 20:07, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : In the

Re: [Starlink] Fwd: New Non-WG Mailing List: deepspace (fwd) IETF Secretariat: New Non-WG Mailing List: deepspace

Le 10/09/2023 à 04:39, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : For those of you that like to think at solar system scale: Thanks for the note. If only one starlink sat had an antenna pointed somehow towards the Moon maybe we it could relay data from there. In first steps one would not care too mu

Re: [Starlink] Starlink Reverse Engineering

Le 08/09/2023 à 16:27, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : This MIT Technology Review report provides the details of the work done by Professor Humphrey and his team to reverse engineer starlink signals: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/21/1062001/spacex-starli

Re: [Starlink] Measuring a Low-Earth-Orbit Satellite Network

Le 17/08/2023 à 18:42, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 7:47 AM Dave Taht wrote: This paper, at first glance, looks really, really good, measuring detailed topology of the starlink network: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.06863 Thank you J Pan for passing it along! More re

Re: [Starlink] a puzzling starlink uplink trace

ith the higher bandwidths of bigger sats at higher altitudes, onto the end user (not onto an intermediary aggregator). Alex On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:13 AM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: to clarify: I some times look with satmap.space and with n2yo.com at sat altitudes. Some times I

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

a VPN or cloud provider richer than a residential provider On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:57 PM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote: Le 30/08/2023 à 14:10, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

d provider richer than a residential provider On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:57 PM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink < starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: Le 30/08/2023 à 14:10, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : Here is a report which summarizes the outcome of the last Satellites con

Re: [Starlink] Elon Musk hooked up on Starlink in-flight, speaking at All-in Summit

"Re: [Starlink] Elon Musk hooked up on Starlink in-flight, speaking at All-in Summit" - maybe the airplane used this antenna from Ball aerospace?  (earlier topic 'Main hurdles...') or maybe it was a starlink antenna recently announced in some country that is called "Flat High Performance har

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

Le 15/09/2023 à 17:18, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 15/09/2023 11:29 pm, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: I must say that I dont know whether the original 'DISHY' is simply a dish antenna with an analog amplifier and maybe some mechanical motor steering, or whe

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

Le 15/09/2023 à 19:52, David Lang via Starlink a écrit : On Sat, 16 Sep 2023, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: On 15/09/2023 11:29 pm, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: I must say that I dont know whether the original 'DISHY' is simply a dish antenna with an analog amp

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

Le 16/09/2023 à 01:32, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 16/09/2023 5:52 am, David Lang wrote: In addition to that Ulrich says, the dishy is a full computer, it's output is ethernet/IP and with some adapters or cable changes, you can plug it directly into a router. We've done that w

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

I think we've seen that the dishy is running linux (I know the routers run an old openwrt), but I don't remember the details of the dishy software. David Lang   On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:21:50

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

en a status page and controls, stowing and unstowing for example) I think we've seen that the dishy is running linux (I know the routers run an old openwrt), but I don't remember the details of the dishy software. David Lang On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlin

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

y is running linux (I know the routers run an old openwrt), but I don't remember the details of the dishy software. David Lang On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 19:21:50 +0200 From: Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <mailto:starlin

Re: [Starlink] Measuring a Low-Earth-Orbit Satellite Network

Le 15/09/2023 à 20:03, Dave Taht a écrit : On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 3:58 AM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <mailto:starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote: Le 17/08/2023 à 18:42, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 7:47 AM Dave Taht <mailto:dave.t.

Re: [Starlink] [Sat-int] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

is not connected to the satellites (there's even a status page and controls, stowing and unstowing for example) I think we've seen that the dishy is running linux (I know the routers run an old openwrt), but I don't remember the details of the dishy software. David

Re: [Starlink] Phased array dish

Le 19/09/2023 à 06:15, Tom Zubko via Starlink a écrit : I found this explanation of the functioning of the dish to be quite informative. Good technical dectription. Yes.  I find it to be good for the 18-24yr old level of physics, electronics and computer communications interested person.  Th

Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week

Le 19/09/2023 à 06:39, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : FWIW, I gave a talk about Starlink - insights from a year in - at last week's APNIC56 conference in Kyoto: https://conference.apnic.net/56/program/program/#/day/6/technical-2/ Thanks for the presentation. I would like to ask what

Re: [Starlink] the website for the end of the world

Le 20/09/2023 à 11:13, David Fernández via Starlink a écrit : Wondering what else, besides anycast DNS, could be worth hosting up there. There is this study going on too: https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/101082517 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:09:13 -0700 From: Dave Taht To: Dave Taht via St

Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week

also makes a lot of difference if trying to make IP routing work there (assuming there could be 2 or 4 IP interfaces for lasers). This (number of ISL links on a starlink sat) can have an impact on how people show LEO satellite topologies in Internet Drafts at IETF. Alex On Thu, Sep 21, 20

Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week

operation as they are providing service to places more than one sat hop away from ground stations. We also know they have a lot of ground stations around to share the load. We have almost no details on the specific modules they are using, and none on what routing they

Re: [Starlink] Speaking of retirements...

What is an RV unit? In the offer from starlink in this country, saying 'Mobile', there are a couple of boxes to be put in a car, and a 'flat' antenna.  I suspect that flat antenna for in-car is not motorized, even though they could micro-motorize some micro parts of it (like motorizing the sma

Re: [Starlink] Speaking of retirements...

ah, sorry, probably we speak of the same thing. I dont know whether or not the current in-car starlink devices require an extra 12v-to-220V/110V adapter, or whether it's included, or integrated. These 12V-220V/110V adapters are relatively big, necessitate fans.  If they are still needed for s

Re: [Starlink] [LibreQoS] Starlink cell capacity (was; tarana strikes back)

Le 26/09/2023 à 23:16, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 27/09/2023 8:00 am, David Lang via Starlink wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Jim Forster wrote: > This is all true (as much as I understand), Worth noting as well, is that with > LEOs if one satellite is maxed out serving a cell, th

Re: [Starlink] Starlink lost over 200 satellites in two months – tracker data

One can see the starlink 're-entries' on some re-entry public databases. On this one from aerospace.org, one can see starlink re-entries yesterday, and also 29 sept., 27 sept., etc. https://aerospace.org/reentries/grid It seems to me - a non expert - that starlink regularly re-enters its sat

Re: [Starlink] Starlink lost over 200 satellites in two months – tracker data

Le 02/10/2023 à 14:27, Michael Richardson via Starlink a écrit : Ulrich Speidel via Starlink wrote: > In the case of Starlink, there is also the minor issue that their initial > constellation that they started commercial ops with isn't ISL-capable, so > there may be an incentive

Re: [Starlink] Main hurdles against the Integration of Satellites and Terrestial Networks

te: With the existence of solutions like OpenMTCProuter, SDWAN, policy based routing or any solution in general that allows combination in a sense of any number of IP links, I really don't see a point for specific solutions. Can anyone enlighten me? For home users an issue may be IP blocks

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

It is indeed interesting. Le 30/10/2023 à 06:56, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : The main problem as it stands with Gaza would be to get Starlink equipment in for the international organisations to use. Coverage wouldn't be an issue, but power and bandwidth would be. I agree with the

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

On the ham radio aspects: I thought ham radio use is restricted to those who would not emit political oppinion, but rather talk about how ham radio works. In such a context, nobody would forbid ham radio. Also, it is very easy to jam purposefully, but it is very hard to identify when one is u

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

Le 30/10/2023 à 13:47, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 31/10/2023 1:03 am, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: It is indeed interesting. Le 30/10/2023 à 06:56, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : > > The main problem as it stands with Gaza would be to get Starlink > equ

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

that the ham operators of the Arab world and elsewhere would necessarily desist from passing on messages of all sorts. On 31/10/2023 1:54 am, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: On the ham radio aspects: I thought ham radio use is restricted to those who would not emit political oppinion,

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

Le 30/10/2023 à 18:46, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink a écrit : On 2023-10-29 at 09:26, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: [...] There is an irony in this: Wasn't the internet a military project meant to survive armageddon? This is an excellent point, indeed. We want an originally-military techno

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

Thanks for the reply. Le 31/10/2023 à 13:57, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 31/10/2023 2:30 am, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: > How they would oppose is a good question - I'm sure the Russians would > like to know, too. > From the public announcements, Rus

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

When I saw the subject line I thought the proposal was to add several dishes per household, but no. Le 10/11/2023 à 13:55, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 7:33 AM Bill Woodcock wrote: On Nov 10, 2023, at 12:44, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: Steve song's analysis her

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

Le 10/11/2023 à 14:44, David Lang a écrit : On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: There is no prohibition against sharing. The closest that document comes to it is: "The Standard Service Plan is designed for personal, family, or household use." And, th

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

Le 10/11/2023 à 13:33, Bill Woodcock via Starlink a écrit : On Nov 10, 2023, at 12:44, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: Steve song's analysis here: https://manypossibilities.net/2023/11/starlink-and-inequality/ He makes some good points. A) Am I the only person left in the world that shares h

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

Le 10/11/2023 à 17:40, David Lang a écrit : On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: I'm not understanding what you think Starlink is prohibiting here. Original poster (Dave, not me) provided this text: "There is no prohibition against sharing. The closest that document comes to it

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

Le 10/11/2023 à 17:40, David Lang a écrit : On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: I'm not understanding what you think Starlink is prohibiting here. Original poster (Dave, not me) provided this text: "There is no prohibition against sharing. The closest that document comes to it

Re: [Starlink] one dish per household is silly.

Le 10/11/2023 à 13:21, Inemesit Affia via Starlink a écrit : Starlink terms of service as at launch with the round dishes required each user to pay regardless of the number of dishes. Not unusual compared to other ISP's. Of course you can share regardless. Cruise liners use 6 to 12 dishes to

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] one dish per household is silly.

Le 10/11/2023 à 13:55, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 7:33 AM Bill Woodcock wrote: On Nov 10, 2023, at 12:44, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: Steve song's analysis here: https://manypossibilities.net/2023/11/starlink-and-inequality/ He makes some good points. A

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

Le 30/10/2023 à 13:47, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 31/10/2023 1:03 am, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: It is indeed interesting. Le 30/10/2023 à 06:56, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : > > The main problem as it stands with Gaza would be to get Starlink > equ

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

Le 12/11/2023 à 00:47, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 11/11/2023 6:09 pm, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: I want to say that I think this hexagon is an imaginative idea of the GUI designer.  I think it does not correspond to reality.  I am not sure about even the most basic

Re: [Starlink] "Interesting set of developments with Starlink. Musk says they will support "international aid orgs" in Gaza, Israel now says they will use "all available means" to stop SpaceX from doi

Le 13/11/2023 à 17:03, David Lang a écrit : On Mon, 13 Nov 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: It has a Donate button, which seems to make it a site built by an independent end user.  It is a great tool already!   With respect to the starlink sats positions: celestrak might simply

Re: [Starlink] one dish per household is silly.

Le 13/11/2023 à 21:34, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : Caution - 250 kW peak sounds more like a horror movie (around 500 W average powers your average household) but there's an easy explanation. It's also a good example for why Reddit isn't a good source of information unless you know

Re: [Starlink] one dish per household is silly.

Le 14/11/2023 à 06:13, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : So that's just over 6 kW if phase and voltage align, which in an application like this, they're most likely not going to do most of the time. The interesting bit in the photo are the large air intakes / outlets, which point at th

Re: [Starlink] The curious case of the missing Starlink spectrum licences

Le 13/11/2023 à 02:27, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : The other day I had reason to look up the Starlink spectrum licences in NZ. These are issued by Radio Spectrum Management in NZ and used to be in the Register of Radio Frequencies, which is publicly searchable: https://www.rsm.govt.

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

Le 15/11/2023 à 16:48, David Fernández via Starlink a écrit : I have got news about the recent filing by Starlink for the use of frequencies in D-band: https://www.itu.int/ITU-R/space/asreceived/Publication/DisplayPublication/53068 This has been done via Tonga, not the USA, and is for both, upli

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

28 120    3360 535 33    28 120    3360 604 148   12 12 144 614 115.7     18         18 324 Alex Le 16/11/2023 à 10:30, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 15/11/20

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

3328 1203360 604 148 12 12 144 614 115.7 18 18 324 Alex Le 16/11/2023 à 10:30, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 15/11/2023 à 16:48, David Fernández via Starlink a écri

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

2 12 144 >> 614 115.7 18 18 324 >> > > I found this earlier FCC document has this table at this URL > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-22-91A1.pdf (not sure > whether it is the most authoritative, but at least the mathematics > 28*120 at altitude 525 does m

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

Le 19/11/2023 à 02:18, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : On 19/11/2023 6:43 am, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: For me, the filing has a syntax error in the name (a superfluous preceding quote in "'ESIAFI II").  It is an English error.  It should be corrected.  Se

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

ps://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-22-91A1.pdf (not sure > whether it is the most authoritative, but at least the mathematics > 28*120 at altitude 525 does make sense to be 3360). > >> Altitude (km) Inclination (degrees) Orbital Planes sats/plane Total sats >> >> 340

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

Le 23/11/2023 à 14:40, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 17/11/2023 à 23:56, Ulrich Speidel via Starlink a écrit : Right. Word from the Tongan government's MEIDECC is that it's D band as per the filing and that the reports on W band are wrong. Can MEIDECC point me t

Re: [Starlink] fcc NOI response due Dec 1

Thank you for having prepared this response. It is a US-centric context, but it might apply everywhere else where fiber and satcom access are considered in competition.  Besides, the latency reduction priming over bandwidth increase, might be discussed in a 6G context as well, be that with NTN

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 04/12/2023 à 19:17, J Pan via Starlink a écrit : yes, starlink does respond to its customers' complaints, although sometimes slowly. its ipv4 address acquisition is scattered around as a latecomer to the isp world, and as a global local isp, it's more troublesome. ip packets have to be tunnel

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

for power-over-ethernet for gen-2 dishes ;-) -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), p...@uvic.ca, Web.UVic.CA/~pan On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:55 AM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 04/12/2023 à 19:17, J Pan via Starlink a écrit : yes, starlink does respond to its customers

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

y. Cheers, Freddie Typos due to smartphone keyboard. On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 3:54 a.m. Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 04/12/2023 à 19:17, J Pan via Starlink a écrit : > yes, starlink does respond to its customers' complaints, although > sometimes slowly. its ipv

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 08/12/2023 à 09:30, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 08/12/2023 à 06:57, Freddie Cash a écrit : Dishy gets a /64 IF Dishy gets a /64 from the starlink operator then I am afraid one cant make subnets in home, because each other subnet needs a distinct /64. and I've t

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

, it might be indeed that the router (provided by starlink router, or not by somebody else) runs a DHCPv6-PD server. Alex Cheers, Steven On Fri, 8 Dec 2023, at 7:30 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 08/12/2023 à 06:57, Freddie Cash a écrit : Dishy gets a /64 IF Dishy gets a /64

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

. Alex You can then request a /56 using DHCP-PD (separate to the /64 used on the WAN interface). Cheers, Steven On Fri, 8 Dec 2023, at 7:30 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 08/12/2023 à 06:57, Freddie Cash a écrit : Dishy gets a /64 IF Dishy gets a /64 from the starlink operator

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

nnections. And there doesn't appear to be any restrictions on IPv6 traffic. This is with the round Dishy. Cheers, Freddie Typos due to smartphone keyboard. On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 3:54 a.m. Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 04/12/2023 à 19:17, J Pan via Starlink a écrit :

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

You can then request a /56 using DHCP-PD (separate to the /64 used on the WAN interface). Yes, it might be indeed that the router (provided by starlink router, or not by somebody else) runs a DHCPv6-PD server. Alex Cheers, Steven On Fri, 8 Dec 2023, at 7:30 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 08/12/2023 à 13:24, Steven a écrit : Alexandre, Are you sure the DHCPv6-PD server is in Starlink network and not on the MikroTik router? That would be quite the unusual setup, and even so would require that I obtain said /56 from elsewhere (such as via a tunnel) to then delegate back to

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 08/12/2023 à 13:46, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 08/12/2023 à 13:24, Steven a écrit : Alexandre, Are you sure the DHCPv6-PD server is in Starlink network and not on the MikroTik router? That would be quite the unusual setup, and even so would require that I obtain said

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Typos due to smartphone keyboard. On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 12:37 a.m. Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 08/12/2023 à 09:30, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : > > Le 08/12/2023 à 06:57, Freddie Cash a écrit : >> Dishy gets a /64 > >

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Steven, Thanks for the clarifications. It is indeed very advantageous to use DHCPv6-PD from a Client in home to starlink Server, and obtain a /56. But to be native IPv6, it would need the IPv6 packets to travel natively (sit directly on the link layer) between home and starlink network.  If

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 12/12/2023 à 03:43, Steven a écrit : Thanks for this reference that explicitly states it is IPv6 native. https://support.starlink.com/?topic=1192f3ef-2a17-31d9-261a-a59d215629f4 is another Starlink resource that confirms that a /56 is provided. This one doesn't explicitly mention native, b

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 12/12/2023 à 11:33, Steven a écrit : Hi Alex, Thank you for the further detail, my apologies if I misunderstand your line of inquiry. I had interpreted it to mean that you were still not convinced it was native from the perspective of the end-user visible components. You are right that th

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 12/12/2023 à 11:50, Sebastian Moeller a écrit : Hi Steven, On Dec 12, 2023, at 11:33, Steven via Starlink wrote: Hi Alex, Thank you for the further detail, my apologies if I misunderstand your line of inquiry. I had interpreted it to mean that you were still not convinced it was nat

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 13/12/2023 à 19:27, David Lang a écrit : On Wed, 13 Dec 2023, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: A tunnel within 3GPP network (GTP) is used, among other reasons, to support mobility.  The 'mobility', among some interpretations, is to maintain a constant IP address for a

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application

Le 14/12/2023 à 19:51, Nathan Simington via Starlink a écrit : Hi folks, (Apologies in advance to non-Americans or anyone who doesn't care about American home broadband policy! Please feel free to immediately delete!) I don't want to get overly political on this mailing list, but my statem

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application

Le 15/12/2023 à 13:37, Gert Doering a écrit : Hi, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:07:10PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: subscriber ; they light only one, equalling 1gbit/s.  It means that they could scale it up later to 4 or 5 gbit/s, without additional installation.  At the You

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application

Hi, Sebastien, Le 15/12/2023 à 14:06, Sebastian Moeller a écrit : Hi Alexandre, On Dec 15, 2023, at 13:07, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 14/12/2023 à 19:51, Nathan Simington via Starlink a écrit : Hi folks, (Apologies in advance to non-Americans or anyone who doesn't

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application

Le 15/12/2023 à 13:44, Gert Doering a écrit : Hi, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:43:25PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: So, a requirement to a competitive satcom would be like 25 Gbit/s.  I think it is not impossible to make, if many intermediate layers (HAPS, drones etc) are used, and larger ba

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application

Le 15/12/2023 à 16:46, Livingood, Jason a écrit : [...] The notion that a home user needs 25G or more these days is ridiculous. ;-) :-) yes and no. If one had a 25 gbit/s line arriving at home one might want to try multiple TV 3D 8K viewers and recordings, while ongoing DSD4096 5.1 audio stre

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

206-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_19_12_2023_ITU-NEWSLETTER_INT)&mc_cid=c66517f297&mc_eid=3ca8d7193e Le 06/12/2023 à 13:02, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : In another context someone pointed me to spacex saying 'D-band' in april 2023 in this "NTIA Docket No.

Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application

Sorry, I do not want to add to any vitriol on this topic.  But there is a technical aspect that might help to clarify some aspects. Le 15/12/2023 à 23:13, David Bray, PhD via Starlink a écrit : This GPT(human)bot was responding to the engineered prompt:  >>why do you think telehealth won't work

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

9_12_2023_ITU-NEWSLETTER_INT)&mc_cid=c66517f297&mc_eid=3ca8d7193e Le 06/12/2023 à 13:02, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : In another context someone pointed me to spacex saying 'D-band' in april 2023 in this "NTIA Docket No. 230308-0068 / Docket NTIA-2023-0003"

Re: [Starlink] Starlink filings for D-Band via Tonga

me in which spectrum would be required. Le 21/12/2023 à 11:25, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : overlap: sorry! it is indeed MHz and not GHz, I overlooked that. But the 117-137 _MHz_ bands are already used from ground to planes; the modernisations I have seen of it relate to au

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Subject: Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges Message-ID: <1fe6b070-c2a0-4c35-8876-33feded81...@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Le 13 déc. 2023 à 05:33, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 12/12/2023 à 11:50, Sebastian Moeller a écrit : Hi Steven,

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

Le 23/12/2023 à 22:35, J Pan a écrit : starlink uses tunnels a lot https://www.reddit.com/r/StarlinkEngineering/comments/17w3sey/a_better_illustration_about_starlink_user/ . starlink assigned ip addresses are pop-specific -- J Pan, UVic CSc, ECS566, 250-472-5796 (NO VM), p...@uvic.ca, Web.UVic.

Re: [Starlink] starlink topology with tunnels (was: Info on IP country ranges)

rlink user terminal (ut), community gateway (cg), ground station (gs), gateway (gw), carrier-grade network address translator (cgnat), point-of-presence (pop), etc ". It is a user oppinion. Alex Le 06/01/2024 à 16:01, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : Le 23/12/2023 à 22:35

Re: [Starlink] starlink topology with tunnels

t;a better illustration about starlink user terminal (ut), community gateway (cg), ground station (gs), gateway (gw), carrier-grade network address translator (cgnat), point-of-presence (pop), etc ". It is a user opinion. Alex Le 06/01/2024 à 16:01, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écri

Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges

states in bits.  Because ssh implementations do feature 'quantum resistance' and thus they might be preferable from the security standpoint. Alex On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 9:59 AM Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink wrote: Le 24/12/2023 à 02:29, Lukasz Bromirski via Starlink a écr

Re: [Starlink] 10k starlink terminals repaired in ukraine

Le 31/12/2023 à 20:21, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink a écrit : Thank you :) Of course, I’m not the only one who repaired so many terminals. We have now created and are actively developing several volunteer service centers. They do most of the repairs. There is nothing like this anywhere else in t

Re: [Starlink] Starlink’s first direct-to-cell phone text messages, 1/8/2024.

Le 11/01/2024 à 18:37, Frantisek Borsik via Starlink a écrit : https://api.starlink.com/public-files/DIRECT_TO_CELL_FIRST_TEXT_UPDATE.pdf Originally shared by Larry Press on Twitter: https://x.com/larrypress/status/1745484063656563055 Thanks! Related to this, I think there were recurring qu

Re: [Starlink] community gateways

“With Community Gateways, Starlink satellites are able to deliver fiber-like speeds with local providers distributing connectivity to homes, businesses, and governments using last-mile fiber, fixed wireless and mobile wireless,” SpaceX said on its website

Re: [Starlink] community gateways

ng at below 10km.  It seems to me that lowering the altitudes is the only way towards fiber-like latencies. Le 17/01/2024 à 16:13, Inemesit Affia a écrit : o3b advertises their service like this..see Jiospacefiber as another example. Jan 17, 2024 3:03:11 PM Alexandre Petrescu via Sta

Re: [Starlink] community gateways

Le 17/01/2024 à 17:53, Marc Blanchet a écrit : Le 17 janv. 2024 à 11:48, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit : thanks, I did not know that JIOspace too (or maybe first) aims at that - it's a great initiative. It seems to me this race creates the place for later services to be c

Re: [Starlink] community gateways

Le 17/01/2024 à 21:57, Inemesit Affia via Starlink a écrit : I don't think the idea of advertising with the association of fiber is only about latency. Think "symmetrical link" which isn't common even for Enterprise satcom. IT is true.  That symmetrical aspect - upload speed similar to downloa

Re: [Starlink] Nokia is Pushing for the 1st Cellular Network on the Moon

hopefully on the Moon the Nokia 3GPP network will use prefix delegation for IPv6 to end user. (as opposed to what 3GPP networks do on Earth, where they dont use DHCPv6-PD to end user). Le 21/01/2024 à 20:32, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : This article is interesting https://www.

Re: [Starlink] Nokia is Pushing for the 1st Cellular Network on the Moon

Le 21/01/2024 à 23:59, Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink a écrit : Can a terrestrial terminal connect with a 5G terminal on the moon via GEO? No, it is too far away and the smartphone does not have enough power for that. A terrestrial terminal would connect to a 5G ground station, or maybe via a

Re: [Starlink] Nokia is Pushing for the 1st Cellular Network on the Moon

Le 22/01/2024 à 00:12, Michael Richardson via Starlink a écrit : Hesham ElBakoury wrote: > Can a terrestrial terminal connect with a 5G terminal on the moon via GEO? No, very unlikely. Except that Nokia 3310 phones have super-powers. What would be needed for a smartphone is a more powe

Re: [Starlink] Nokia is Pushing for the 1st Cellular Network on the Moon

Le 22/01/2024 à 00:12, Michael Richardson via Starlink a écrit : David Lang wrote: > but now that SpaceX has launched their first 6 satellites that talk cellular, > how many of them would be needed to give continuous coverage of the > moon? Would they be in orbit of the moon, o

Re: [Starlink] First tests of the Starlink REV4 (aka gen3)

Thanks for the tests! The dl/ul speeds 300/15 mbit/s are impressive. At video pointer 5:53 the reported Ping ?/dl/ul 88/204/121 ms and Jitter 9.2 ms seem interesting.     ==> I am not sure which of the two (ping or jitter) you name 'latency'?     ==> I am not sure why the dl (download) ping

Re: [Starlink] 42 petabytes/day and ...

Le 02/02/2024 à 04:07, Dave Taht via Starlink a écrit : from here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39200323 There were two things that fell out of reading that article for me. "each laser is grossly underused on average, at 0.432% of its maximum capacity." + "Brashears also said Starlin

Re: [Starlink] Measuring the Satellite Links of a LEO Network

this is an issue for 6MAN WG at IETF, but this is the text with the issue in the paper: From the user device or customer router at 192.168.1.1, we can reach its GS gateway at 100.64.0.1 (or equivalently fe80::200:5eff:fe00:101 for IPv6) That IPv6 link-local address has an 'ff:fe' in it; the p

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